December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: PGP 2.5 available from Electronic Frontier Foundation ftp site
by Tommy the Tourist 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: Stanton McCandlish <mech(a)eff.org> Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 16:46:49 -0400 (EDT) Despite the patent & licensing issues being resolved, PGP is still not legally exportable from the United States (except to Canada), due to ITAR export restrictions which categorize cryptographic materials as weapons of war. Thus, EFF can only make PGP and other crypto tools and source code available to US and Canadian nationals currently residing in the US or Canada and connecting to EFF's site from a US or Canadian site. I was under the impression that NAFTA is the reason that Canada is included. Am I misinformed? If NAFTA is the reason, isn't Mexico equivalent to Canada in this context? Could someone clarify this aspect of the export situation, or perhaps point me at a document that explains the situation? Zeke -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLdJIuBVg/9j67wWxAQEebAP/flhqUugfCUJ9at1nI8kCbkXiF10NYfcE s+1+ZFNnvz16gwI/O7nEfrIHKQl6mqmqT8T4e2JCsMiw7uM7L3vYIKHJvRek45gk /6JoUE7sjVb8nyvyct9sKeExAGqKFLxAAsOZfYno88qOMAE4nc3QRxMoqLb3XDbI EbxPLyo8T/s= =RqOv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------ To respond to the sender of this message, send mail to remailer(a)soda.berkeley.edu, starting your message with the following 7 lines: :: Response-Key: ideaclipper ====Encrypted-Sender-Begin==== MI@```$YS^P;+]AB?X9TW6\8WR:>P&2'9,7.YM5[D--('+[6(0O]013@CTWLQ FKWZ$M2G9>G1>/=5O1[0U.E)J&63=DHF($P$KX#I8T]5&9!GFQ]@` ====Encrypted-Sender-End====

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Re: State Dept Response to my second CJ request
by werner＠mc.ab.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Date: Wed, 11 May 1994 15:37:01 -0400 >From: "Perry E. Metzger" <perry(a)snark.imsi.com> > >I'd say the obvious next step is a lawsuit -- at this point there is >standing and little point in accomodating the clowns. > >I've already offered Phil a donation towards this suit, and if he >chooses to pursue it I encourage others to donate money towards it as >well. In my opinion there is no more important action this year in the >area of cryptography than Phil's export license request. Please let us know if such a suit is filed. I will gladly contribute. tw

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San Jose Mercury News Washington News in Brief Blurb
by koontzd＠lrcs.loral.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thursday May 12, 1994 ELECTRONIC SNOOPING TAKES SHARP UPTURN Wiretaps and electronic monitoring by federal agents, primarily against suspected drug traffickers, grew by a third during the first year of the Clinton administration, the largest increase in a decade. [N722]

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More Gilder pointers
by whitaker＠dpair.csd.sgi.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There's also a good interview in May '94 *Upside* with Gilder. "Upside" bills itself as "The Business Magazine for the Technology Elite", and is not a bad deal even for the $4.95 cover price (its primary competitor seems to be the $14.95 *Red Herring*, another technology-sector business magazine aimed at investors). I'm reading his 1989 bestseller "Microcosm": pick it up if you can find it. It's excellent. Gilder is a rare economist. He doesn't simply put forth solid free market arguments. He doesn't simply jump on the technology bandwagon. He knows science, and tells a whopping good story. For instance: I hadn't known that Andrew Grove (Intel CEO) was Hungarian, and had escaped Communist rule by crawling through the mud into Austria. America is full of incredible success stories. "Fibersphere" is his latest, in which he makes his controversial "death of television" and "dark fiber" arguments. I've only read excerpts in other Forbes articles, but it looks worth picking up. -Russell --- Forwarded mail from norm(a)netcom.com (Norman Hardy) To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com There was a long article in April 11, 1994 Forbes: "AUCTIONING THE AIRWAYS", by George Gilder". It had a supprising amount of technical information about a new technology similar to spread spectrum. The article has a "too cheep to meter" flavor that I do not agree with but it does present some interesting information and ideas. It is about 43k bytes and is available via anonymous ftp at netcom.com:/pub/Silk/auction.txt --- End of forwarded mail from norm(a)netcom.com (Norman Hardy) -- Russell Earl Whitaker whitaker(a)csd.sgi.com Silicon Graphics Inc. Technical Assistance Center / Centre D'Assistance Technique / Tekunikaru Ashisutansu Sentaa Mountain View CA (415) 390-2250 ================================================================ #include <std_disclaimer.h>

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Here they come...
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Eric Hughes wrote: H >Not quite. I met Peter Lewis at CFP-94. He has the official H >cyberspace beat, which was just created this year. Markoff reports H >on the same issues, but is not assigned to that beat. H > H > Markoff's pieces in the times show remarkable understanding of the H > issues, but Lewis's make it seem like he's never even logged in. H > H >I would suggest it would be more profitable to educate Mr. Lewis H >rather than to hold another's reputation over his head. H > H >Eric Lewis wasn't that hard to talk to at CFP'94. He used to write the Executive Computer column in the Sunday Times so I've followed his stuff for years. I didn't see any problems with his Anarchy in Cyberspace article on Monday. He was mostly talking about bad manners which exist on Internet and equally in the over-governed realms of the real world. Nothing new there. He is trying to interpret Cyberspace for the masses. His job is not to be inside talking out. Perhaps he could have talked about the problems potential regulators would face but that would be writing his article for him. DCF --- WinQwk 2.0b#1165

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Re: Cypherpunks Goals: Bad debate drives out good debate
by Mike Markley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

| | How about auto-moderation? I came up with this idea a while back for | automatically moderating mailing lists. Here's how it works: | | A newsgroup is set up as moderated, and the posts are emailed to the | moderator (as usual). The "moderator" is a mail-to-news gateway that | posts the articles if the author isn't on the disapproved list, and | also automatically cancels articles that don't have the right "approved" | header and aren't digitally signed by the moderator. | | If a person becomes a nuisance, people send their votes in to the | moderator-robot, and it tallies the votes. If within XXX days more thumbs | down votes are received than thumbs up votes, the person is placed on the | disapproved list. | | The main advantage is, it's fast and easy to set up. Comments? Sounds like a very easy scheme to break. Say I suddenly decide that I don't like your posts or Tim Mays posts. I can get you kicked off by using anonymous accounts to say that you're a nuisance. It seems to me that leaving the list open is better than trying to control it. An example of the danger of automation has already been shown on this list. Last week someone unsubscribed everybody using the automatic features of the remailer. I'd rather have access to all of the posts and make my own decisions about the contents rather than have a potential for one aggrevated individual take out some meaningful content because of a personal vendetta. Mike | | Ed Carp, N7EKG/VE3 ecarp(a)netcom.com 519/824-3307 | Finger ecarp(a)netcom.com for PGP 2.3a public key an88744(a)anon.penet.fi | If you want magic, let go of your armor. Magic is so much stronger than | steel! -- Richard Bach, "The Bridge Across Forever" | | ===================================================== Mike Markley <mmarkley(a)microsoft.com> I'm not a Microsoft spokesperson. All opinions expressed here are mine. ===================================================== |

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Lunch Tuesday at Atlanta COMDEX 5/24/94
by mlshew＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Version 0.1--This will change in case of conflicts, etc. I'll post V1.0 on Wednesday 5/18/94. (This is version 0.1 of this file. For the most recent version, try the following: o finger mlshew(a)netcom.com, to read my .plan. (This file.) o get "plan" by ftp in netcom.com:/pub/mlshew This was originally sent to the cypherpunks and extropians lists.) If you would like to meet informally with other readers of these lists during next week's COMDEX, I would suggest meeting Tuesday (5/24/94) at noon, directly above the food court in CNN Center--------->+ | | Map: (Badly out of scale and oversimplified to make sense | for walkers but not drivers) | | | | | | | -------------------+ +---------------------------------|-------------- Marietta Street | -------------------+ +---------------------------------|-------------- | | | +----------------+ | | +----------+ +-------V-----------+ | World Congress | | | | The Omni | | CNN Center | | Center (COMDEX)| | | +----------+ | (Food Court here) | | Walk this way like the rest of the mobs of people | +----------------+ | | +-------------------+ | Inter- | +--------------------+ |national| | MARTA Rail Station| | Blvd. | | (The local subway) | | | +--------------------+ | | | | Lots of very expensive parking here for those | | who want to drive directly to COMDEX in the | | middle of incredible traffic and raise their More Parking | | blood pressure instead of taking a shuttle from | | their hotel, or parking at a free-parking MARTA | | lot and taking MARTA in, as is the sensible | | way to go about it. (For those who haven't been to an Atlanta COMDEX before, the CNN food court is a place where almost every COMDEX attendee is likely to eat at least once during the week. If you happen to forget, loose, or never receive the ASCII map originally above this paragraph, any random person you might ask for directions can probably point you in the direction of the "CNN Center food court.") The court is in the center of the floor you will (likely) come in on. So don't go getting confused when you see smaller sets of restaurants and tables and chairs as you enter. That's not the central court. You won't miss it, just keep going in. (Of course, you won't have much choice in the matter: There will be a mob of hungry Comdex attendies behind you, and stopping in their path is simply not a viable option.) Go to the food court, and look up. You will see a single pedestrian walkway one floor above you. That is where we'll all be. Take yourself and your food up one floor, and enjoy the pleasant conversation. (Note that up on the walkway there's no place to put your food, but that's okay, because there's no place down in the food court either--it's _really_ crowded. Down there there's hardly a place to stand, much less sit, but go up one floor, and it's a virtual dessert.) I'd like to make a publicly available list that includes the following. (To be appended to this file.) o Persons coming to Spring Comdex, interested in attending a meeting such as this, and wishing to let that and related information be known to the world. o Whether they can make the noon Tuesday meeting. o Where they heard this announcement. o Good/bad days and times. Be specific but brief. Please include this in any event, so if 3 people say only Wednesday, and 7 don't bother to mention that Wednesday is impossible for them, that I don't switch to Wednesday. No guarantees of course. o Personal interests. (Explained below) o Misc. other information they want known to the world. If you would like to enter or modify yourself in such a database, modify and mail a form such as one at the end of this file to mlshew(a)netcom.com, with this subject line or "comdex meeting info". Feel free to also add in: o Any job openings you know about. (Esp. EE/DSP/Programming) :-) If you would like to tell me and everyone to expect one more person, just mail the form with a number "1" in the "Name" column, so you needn't broadcast your name. If you'd like to tell no one anything and just show up, that's okay too. I'll append the information (edited!) to the end of this file. As to why I included a field about interests, it will allow everyone to mull over everyone else's idea of what would be nice to talk about, the theory being that it might help conversation naturally bend towards topics all are interested in. As to the other information, it's also to help other people who might want to get together to do so if they don't want to go to this meeting. (Or to remember remember to bring that book they borrowed from another person three years ago.) It is not a "vote" on what time the get-together will be. Appended are two sample forms (since this is the first version: V0.1). Delete everything else, put in your own info, and mail it back to me. See you soon! Mark Shewmaker mlshew(a)netcom.com Noon Tue. OK? Name Where heard Can Schedule at Interests ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Y Mark Shewmaker extropians Flexible all days Schelling points of mlshew(a)netcom.com cypherpunks lunch meetings near conventions Thinks this is a great place to meet, and a nice place to watch everyone come and go. Need an employee? Apply now before prices go up. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- N One fake anonymous never tell MWF 10-2 Mental Cryptography person just as an example I just kind of feel silly telling everyone that I'm going to be there; I look forward to meeting you there, though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Message Havens
by jim＠bilbo.suite.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Downloading the whole message base to scan for one's > messages will place a massive load on net.resources, and > probably a prohibitive load on most people's terminals. > Here's an alternative to using tags that need to be agreed upon in advance: I call it "Indexed Message Pools" The key ideas: Each message sent to the message pool will be encrypted in the recipient's public key. (nothing new here) The Subject: line for the message will be the MD5 hash of the message body. For each message sent, the sender will also send a small, fixed length "index message" encrypted with the recipient's public key. The index message will contain the MD5 hash of the full message (and a confounder?). The Subject: line for the index message will contain an unencrypted copy of the message hash. The index message will go into an index pool. Instead of downloading the entire message pool to check for messages, you download the index pool (should be smaller in size). You would attempt to decrypt each index message (should be quicker). A decryption will yield something that looks like a hash of a full message. Compare this with the contents of the index message's Subject: line to detect a successful decryption. To get the full message, send a request to the message pool server. The request will contain a list of message hashes. One of the hashes will be for the message that was sent to you, the other hashes are chosen randomly from the collection of index messages you couldn't decrypt. The message pool server will send you the messages that have Subject: lines containing the hashes you sent in the request. You discard all the messages that are not for you, decrypt the one that *is* for you, and there you have it. This idea scales up a bit, although not greatly. I can imagine a network of message pools that maintain a distributed index pool among themselves. You can obtain the complete index pool from any of the message pool servers. In this scenario, a index message would contain the message hash plus the address of the message pool that is holding the associated message. Small detail: To avoid downloading sections of the index pool you've already seen, the client-side software will need to maintain a timestamp or something to keep track of the last index message you've seen. Pass this timestamp to the message pool server to request all index messages since "timestamp". Comments welcome, Jim_Miller(a)suite.com

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Hasta la vista, baby!
by GERSTEIN＠SCSUD.CTSTATEU.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well Cypherpunkers, As the semester comes to an end, I have to sign off the list to prevent the unwanted buildup of "list-mail-itis". Therefore, I must say good-bye, for now. I will sign off the list in a day or so, but until then, I have a (hopefully) simple question for you.... Does anyone know how to make a kill file for VAX/VMS? I know it's not really pertinent to this topic, but I know that all of you guys (and gals) are pretty experienced, so I hope that someone knows. Let me know via private mail if you can help me out. Adam Gerstein GERSTEIN(a)SCSU.CTSTATEU.EDU -=-=-=- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3 iQBVAgUBLc0c/AT73QJlKKVlAQGV5QIAmusRN0C58o/ScjA1/V7Mq77XurUi3Ktk XZfUXkk6yLJtxtKj5kIddxMiJISfRLbNFvKkAv7LFbYDAdI0RYpnxg== =vEVx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Mykotronx
by Tommy the Tourist 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The latest Mykotronix dirt, pulled off of my source just last week. Scattered information, but perhaps this can be assembled with the other information to create a better profile. !(myko) ------------- TELEDYNE SYSTEMS COMPANY MYKOTRONX METROLOGY DEPT. 357 VANNESS WAY TORRANCE, CA FIELD SERVICES METROLOGY CALIBRATION SERVICE SPER PROPOSAL MET $2,000.00 $2,000.00 5/2/93 1 LOT $2,000.00 PLEASE MAKE RECALL PERIOD ONE (1) YEAR FOR EACH ITEM UNLESS ADVISED BY MYKOTRONX, INC. ATTN: DEAN BURNGART (881)886-2211/(881)717-6881 William H. Doy 1eTRWR2 20041 Space Park Redondo Beach, CA 90278 Bobby Daniels Caremella Mestriannatot Tim Hauersperger Bob Todd Rick Oberbbndorf Roger Brouwer Chris Curren Kathleen Fairley Rod Fujikawa Roger Brouwer Mike Furusawa Bill Greenfield Gerald Krause Russell Matsui Margaret McNeil Chris Curren Joe Heindl Jesse Mirilesie Landi Riley Rod Fujikawa Glenn Higuchi Scott Mobdderly Rick Oberndorf Wendy Goble Jason Moku Sam Morrissette Roy Usui Paul Smith Bob Todd Mr. Ed Martin AEROJET 1100 W Hollyvale Street Azusa, CA 91702 8403 Destruct Security Labels $106.78 4-5-93 One Hundred six dollars and 78/100*** Modern Data 4-5-93 Richard Takahashi Rob Ertgray GERALD KRAUSE JAN DOLPHIN 408-432-8180 SPY R US 2280 ZANKER ROAD, SUITE 207 SAN JOSE, CA 94135 6203 LITRONICK INDUSTRIES 2950 Redhill Ave. Costa Mesa, CA 92626 NCJ03078 FD70322040601 Myk-5 Ground Unit Serial Number s146 and l652EA $64,910 $93,820 10110111101 Acceptance Test Procedure/Test Report Report 2EA --J.Liaci AFCSC/LMJYP 4-8-93 BOB TO DDJ.LIACI210977-2356AFCSC/LMJYP Kelly AFB 250 Hall Blvd, Suite 112 San Antonio, TX 78243-7061 RJAMESLICCACIAFCSC/LMJYP Kelly AFB 250 Hall Blvd, Suite 112 San Antonio, TX MR JOHN WIMPY AFCSC/LMMLC Building 2028, Room 208 San Antonio, TX 78243-5000 NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY Elkridge Landing Road Linthicum, MD 21090-2902 Checkfree Corporation Problem Resolution Department P.O. box 987 Columbus, OH 43216-0897 RALPH O'CONNELL 1401 Woodbridge Road Baltimore, MD 21228 3939 S. Figureora Street Los Angeles, CA 90037 Ms. Hazel M. Smith MS:W3-7534 Harris Corporation GISD P.O. Box 98000 Melbourne, FL 32902 Mr. Vito DiGigilio VLSI Technology, Inc. 634 Balboa Blvd., Suite 100 Encino, CA 91316 R. Takahashi Mykotronx, Inc. 357 VanNess Way uite 200 Torrance, CA 90501 Contract Administrator 210977-2821 HQAFIC/LECCS 306 Wakkanai St., Suite 1 San Antonio, TX 78243 Defense Investigative Service Industrial Security Field Office(S53LB) Attention: Barry W. Hash 3605 Long Beach Blvd., Suite 405 Long Beach, CA 90807-4013 R. Todd Lee George 408 629-2880 938 Foothill Drive San Francisco CA 95123 Franchise Tax Board P.0.Box 942840 Sacramento, CA 94240-000 John C. Droge 414 Sixth Street Hermosa Beach, CA 902540 Mr. Tom Black GLANTZ & BLACK 25043 Narbonne Avenue Lomita CA 90717 Maryland Procurement Office 7318 Parkway Drive South Hanover, MD 21076 ---- VLSI Technologies, Inc. 6345 Balboa Blvd. Bldg #1 Suite 100 Encino, CA 91316 Attn: Dr. Freeman PE4-18-93 PD4-12-93 $75,000.00 4-14-93 Seventy-five thousand dollars and no/100 **** Mykotronx, Inc. Payroll Account #731081567 ---- Mr. Tom Black Glantz & Black 25043 Narbonne Avenue Lomita, Ca 90717 14 April 1993 Dear Tom, Per your request attached has is a list of our sales from 1-1-93 through 3-13-93. I've marked the items as Government or Non-government. If you have any questions or need additional information, please call me on (310)533-8100. Sincerely, Patti ---- Maryland Procurement Office Attn: N22144(CEB)(MDA 904-92-G-0354/J.0.5001) 9800 Savage Road Fort George G. Meade, MD 20755-6000 Cryptographic Support Center Logistics Management Branch 250 Hall Blvd., Ste 311 San Antonio, TX 78243-0760 ------------ To respond to the sender of this message, send mail to remailer(a)soda.berkeley.edu, starting your message with the following 8 lines: :: Response-Key: ideaclipper ====Encrypted-Sender-Begin==== MI@```%AS^P;+]AB?X9TW6\8WR:*P&2&#E66'?22E^>4!79;]2Q5!'U$<<JHX M`"[QYE??E1ASFX#P?M@\HN3EX*PWZYQ!,?+42=@Y22SIOI/F+;(_!LI82<S^ #V?,2 ====Encrypted-Sender-End====

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