December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Remailers wanted
by David Merriman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm in the process of writing a remailer front-end for Windows (I can hear it now - "Oh, GROSS!" :-), and am looking to collect the addresses of as many remailers as possible. I've already got the listing from SODA.BERKELEY, so anything not on that list is welcome. Please let me know if the system handles plaintext, PGP, RIPEM, or ????. Unless somebody screams at me not to, I'll upload the finished program (it'll be free) to SODA. My Email address is merriman(a)metronet.com and you can finger me for PGP/RIPEM keys/fingerprints Dave Merriman - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3 mQCNAi12VeYAAAEEAOqndSk+w1iAtW1nJDtdajTZEZEOuMjeKoFbXWuMK8H93Ckx Ba6c0Z8+STXtscP2WWKwRUVcrM0iZa2X4/7Z/Brl31aaA4DT6AVoxet3CLY0JUfi FciusBFCfPB6wfDdwABLZAzTd49YDyWI/Fq0MlNJ3JAeTFwhPeJ9eOnzcfP1AAUR tCVEYXZlIE1lcnJpbWFuIDxtZXJyaW1hbkBtZXRyb25ldC5jb20+ =3ppL -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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re: Directory of 'punks
by tim werner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Date: Thu, 28 Apr 1994 10:28:40 -0400 (EDT) >From: "Jim Sewell" <jims(a)Central.KeyWest.MPGN.COM> > >With tools like a "press kit" and a directory of members we will >become viewed as a cross-section of America, citizens with a >point of view shared by many, contributors to the general welfare >of society rather than a bunch of fanatical computer geeks ... Well, that leaves me out, but at least I'm not a pencil-neck (17.5"). tw

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Re: Directory of 'punks
by lefty＠apple.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Perry writes: >"Jim Sewell" says: >> >> Thank you for the preliminary (<2 hrs) response to the posting. I have >> not gotten a "that's a bad idea" letter yet of the 7 replies so I will >> assume this is a "Good Thing" tm. > >Here is my vote for "its a bad idea". Cypherpunks is NOT an >organization. Leave the organizational fronting to people like CPSR >and EFF who have good PR people and know what they are doing. They've >done a great job thus far. > >If we want to answer blowhards who claim we are a small number of >nuts, we can just show off the Time magazine poll. Yeah, what he said. -- Lefty (lefty(a)apple.com) C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.

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Carl Ellison
by mech＠eff.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anyone have Carl Ellison's new eaddr? It's important. Thanks. -- Stanton McCandlish * mech(a)eff.org * Electronic Frontier Found. OnlineActivist F O R M O R E I N F O, E - M A I L T O: I N F O @ E F F . O R G O P E N P L A T F O R M O N L I N E R I G H T S V I R T U A L C U L T U R E C R Y P T O

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Re: RSA-129
by Istvan Oszaraz von Keszi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Perry E. Metzger wrote: > "Istvan Oszaraz von Keszi" says: > > Now let's see, where's my slide rule, let's see 5,000 mips years > > at $30,000 /mips = damn, where is that calculator. :-) > > $30,000/mips? Huh? You haven't gotten out much in ten years, have you? Sorry, we're in Canada, eh. Loooonies, eh. And you wonder why big-iron sales are bleak?? Quote of the week: IBM unveiled it's new line of mainframes before an audience of 300 customers at a Toronto hotel. Over heard at the bar: " I never realized, there were OTHERS, I thought we were the only ones !! "

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Re: Directory of 'punks
by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Keep in mind, anyone can 'who' the list from majordomo and get a list of who is subscribed. You face the assumption that you are a pencil-necked geek who was too busy doing your trig to attend Woodstock. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden(a)krypton.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> Political Correctness is \/ Finger for PGP 2.3a Public Key <=> P.C. for "Thought Police" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) <- Annonymous posting gets more and more interesting.

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your WSJ article, today
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bravo. Good article. Except: "What will they do when people start encrypting messages to each other?" suggests that this isn't happening. I've been routinely encrypting e-mail since 1981 -- including overseas traffic. Still -- good article. Thanks. - Carl P.S. We need to establish that publishing an article on an FTP server or via an e-mail newsletter is, in fact, publication according to the first amendment. This may be the wrong case to establish that precedent but it needs to be established.

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Satellites, the NSA, & Clipper
by djw＠eff.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just returned from a presentation at Comsat about Clipper and other crypto issues. They asked EFF & NIST to come and square off before them so that they could begin to think about the issues. They may not get too deeply involved, but most of the manufacturers & users represented seemed quite sympathetic to our position. I also picked up an amusing tidbit. All satellites that carry US government traffic must have an NSA-designed black box which secures the satellite control channel from enemy interference (ie. Libya tries to move US satellites around to screw up our communications). Guess who builds the black box. You got it, Mykotronx. ************************************************************************** "Only in a police state is the job of a policeman easy." --Orson Welles ...................................................................... Daniel J. Weitzner, Senior Staff Counsel <djw(a)eff.org> Electronic Frontier Foundation 202-347-5400 (v) 1001 G St, NW Suite 950 East 202-393-5509 (f) Washington, DC 20001 *** Join EFF!!! Send mail to membership(a)eff.org for information ***

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Re: Paranoia
by Phil G. Fraering 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>I personally can't think of any reason for an elite fighting force to >be stationed in an area of urban sprawl. Uh, last time I checked, the most recent two conflicts the U.S. may be getting involved in or got involved in were in Mogudishu and in urban areas in the former Yugoslavia. Not to mention the urban environment of Seoul. Whether you're a hawk or a dove, the fact is, the US has been, might be, or just plain is (if there's a war in Korea) committed to conflicts where there's going to be combat in an urban or "suburban" area. You might debate the wisdom of our overseas commitments, etc., but if you think we should have an army that should have as its hope of survival the idea that the enemy will always be fighting in rural areas, you're foolish in the extreme, and if you implement those ideas you will kill a great many of your own army. Phil

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May 4 Crypto Talk...
by lile＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I thought you might be interested. It would be great if some folks from this list could show. -lile *************** Please Circulate Freely *************** You're Invited to Our Next General Meeting! Admission Free/Open to the Public Wednesday, May 4, 1994, 7:30 P.M. First Presbyterian Church 1140 Cowper Street, Palo Alto (3 Blocks North of Embarcadero -- See Map on Back) Wire Taps and Cryptography in Your Future with Nelson Bolyard Everyone is talking about the Clipper Chip, and lots of people are wondering about the FBI's digital telephony initiative. This talk will discuss both of those things and provide some historical perspective on the battle between Congress and the Administration over control of standards for civilian cryptography, and CPSR's role in that debate. Nelson Bolyard is an engineer for a major computer manufacturer in the Silicon Valley. He has background in cryptography and highly secure systems, and is presently working in high-speed networking. Sponsored By: Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility CPSR\Palo Alto: P.O. Box 717, Palo Alto, CA 94302

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