December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

otp
by nobody＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

unicorn(a)access.digex.net says, Un> Is there a mac version? What is offered is the otp.c source and some documentation. It should compile easily on most computer platforms. The output of the program must be run through the TeX typesetting program, and LaTeX, which are freely available. If you wish to do a Macintosh version, I'll refund half your signed contribution. (Is there enough of a money supply out there, that 12 tokens is a reasonable number? i.e.: 2 each from 6 people or whatever.) Derek Atkins <warlord(a)ATHENA.MIT.EDU> says, DA> In the immortal words of a famous vulcan, the needs of the many DA> outweigh the wants of the few. >From _Mein Kampf_: "the interests of the state outweigh the needs of the individual". .. PGP 2.6 key available on request

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BANK: quite a bit of interest.
by Matt Thomlinson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've had quite a few people ask for instructions for retreiving the ghostmarks I promised. Good to see that more people are getting involved. I'm more than willing to help people get going using the magic money implementations. I've just paid the winner of the sonics/nuggets pool. I'm offering 15 more ghostmarks to the person most closely guessing the spread of the sonics/nuggets game 5 on saturday. (as a reference, the winner this time was only within 14 points of the spread!) You need not have your client installed to enter the pool. I have a feeling that within the next few weeks we're going to see more and more items available via ghostmarks/tacky tokens/bakuins. Get set up now so you can participate later. Email for info. mt Matt Thomlinson University of Washington, Seattle, Washington. phone: (206) 548-9804 Check my home page -- ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/phantom/home.html PGP 2.2 key available via email, or finger phantom(a)hardy.u.washington.edu

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Bunch of Clueless Idiots
by lassie!jim%lassie＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I see nobody mentioned the infringment of the second amendment by the assault weapons ban. These weapons cause 8.4% of the mortal wounds in commission of crime. Another piece of the constitution falls. Gee, what article of the constitution protects the right to cryptography? What are you going to do when they take it away from you. Probly nothing. The avereage person is definatly not as cool about cryptoghraphy as you are. But then again they probly are not as clickish as you are. You and your FTP site on Internet. Wow everyone knows about that. If they can not figure it out fuck em'. They are a "NEWBIE". You my friend are the ASSHOlE. To distribute to the masses is strenghth, not hiding behind some discussion of tackey dollars. Personly I think YOU are too stupid (OHHH I can program a computer) and lack the social skills to distribute crypto software to the masses. Any law probly would have a grandfather clause. Oh you say your grandfather died three years ago and you are working on revision X.YYY.Z of your latest greatest crypto software to worry about distribution. YOU PEOPLE ARE FOOLS AND HAVE TO MUCH SELF IMPORTANCE IN YOUR SMALL LITTLE HEADS, NOTHING EXISTS OF OF INTERNET! WRONG THE REAL WORLD DOES!!! BY NOT DISTRIBUTING TO THE MASSES YOU WILL LOSE (oh you can ftp to toilet.flush /urinal/cookies/). WHEN THEY TAKE YOUR PRESIOS CRYPTO AWAY, THEY WILL TAKE AWAY YOUR FIRST AMMENDMENT RIGHTS. (and it serves you right). FUCK IT NEVER MIND -- * Spelling errors are intentional and international * Jim Nalbandian netcomsv!lassie!jim%lassie(a)netcom.com Tempe, Arizona, USA N7SZS(a)K7BUC.AZ.US.NA No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain there right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government. <-------- Thomas Jefferson --

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- A couple of problems have arisen with my code marketing venture. Which is all to the good, of course, as the point of the exercise is to turn up these problems. Firstly, it seems that the coins I receive will contain something akin to a serial number, so that just recording the byte sequence upon issuance of the coin, and comparing with the bank receipts, would be sufficient to establish the origin of the coin. Since a bank deposit is normally communicated to a real email address, then the depositor can be identified. This being the case, use of a pool for receiving bank statements seems to be the safest way to go. The other problem is conversion from one currency (Ghostmarks) into another (Tacky Tokens). Here is a business opportunity for someone: exchange currencies for profit. Once again, a pool seems to be the best way to issue the exchanged money. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCcAgUBLcnf/Lhnz857T+PFAQFXrwQ2NZTiE9spBf364VRvW37NwW+6aogNLjGi rPR89ve0oJEfBoI0EQl7ubHiTflttI+/6sjD++vHWKO1+FFhOXe0MDomYcbJy1QG olpnDTPC4412s546IXwVZsPiqCg9Dcxs5iz+dXalh9RrF9WwiY2YOjS+898FvoDg x6CgwPSbmiZcRx9G8Ou5 =g9jr -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Bunch of Clueless Idiots
by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-> I see nobody mentioned the infringment of the second amendment by the assault weapons ban. [Dribble and CAPS deleted] YOU PEOPLE ARE FOOLS AND HAVE TO MUCH SELF IMPORTANCE IN YOUR SMALL LITTLE HEADS, NOTHING EXISTS OF OF INTERNET! WRONG THE REAL WORLD DOES!!! BY NOT DISTRIBUTING TO THE MASSES YOU WILL LOSE (oh you can ftp to toilet.flush /urinal/cookies/). WHEN THEY TAKE YOUR PRESIOS CRYPTO AWAY, THEY WILL TAKE AWAY YOUR FIRST AMMENDMENT RIGHTS. (and it serves you right). FUCK IT NEVER MIND <- I'll beat Perry to it. Interesting, but not about crypto, or the politics of crypto. Take it to alt.flame. -uni- (Dark)

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VMS Version of PGP
by NetSurfer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I have a friend who asked me where to get a copy of PGP for VMS. Is there such a version, and where is it available from? Thanks! -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.4 mQBNAi2Ig+EAAAECALImsR18LE9I6NKICf8TVhbV6yJgF95ynGHnWnNo1ERfdqzk Zl3Icl2N5klNM3KQ9zM3uN/z55smi2QOiD3hL80ABRO0L0phbWVzIEQuIFdpbHNv biA8amR3aWxzb25AZ29sZC5jaGVtLmhhd2FpaS5lZHU+ =JTj1 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- ................................ . == = = James D. Wilson. . " " " P. O. Box 15432............................. . " " /\ " Honolulu, HI 96830-5432......Fr. Excelsior........ . \" "/ \" jdwilson(a)gold.chem.hawaii.edu.FRC/FAM/AASR/GWB/OTO. ...................................................................

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WinPGP location.
by GRABOW_GEOFFREY＠tandem.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

jdwilson(a)gold.chem.hawaii.edu writes: > Where can I find WinPGP? You should be able to ftp WinPGP 1.0 from oak.oakland.edu//pub/msdos/windows3/WinPGP10.ZIP you'll love it!!! G.C.G. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | Geoffrey C. Grabow | "What we demand are rigidly defined | | Oyster Bay, New York | areas of doubt and uncertainty!" | | | -------------------- | | grabow_geoffrey(a)tandem.com | Clipper, SkipJack & Digital Telephony | | | JUST SAY NO!!! | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | PGP fingerprint = C9 95 0F C4 E9 DD 8E 73 DD 99 4E F5 EB 7A B6 1D | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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(fwd) What the IRS is up to
by catalyst-remailer＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------forwarded message---------

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Re: Cypherpunks change bytes!
by lile＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Wouldn't it be great if we could just get rid of software patents? -lile

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IRS plans
by nobody＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: johnl(a)iecc.com (John R Levine) >Newsgroups: comp.society.privacy >Subject: What the IRS is up to Here's some excerpts from a speech by Coleta Brueck, Project Manager, Document Processing system, at the Internal Revenue Service, that she gave at the Computer Press Association Awards luncheon in New York on April 15th. I was at the lunch, but the transcript of the speech just arrived today. The ellipses are mine, but I think I'm not distorting what she said. She started by explaining that their current systems are functionally based on punch card systems from the 1950s, and they want to get more stuff on-line so that when you call with a question, the person at the IRS can retrieve a copy of your records while you're still on the phone. But then: "We should be able to provide you on-line access to that information. ... You will have the availability to know what your current account information is, very much like if most of us who have an American Express Card, you can call -- you don't really know where that 800 number goes, but what you do know is when that person answers your call, they have your complete account information. ... They can give you information on your account, they can update your account, or they can provide you futuristic looks into your account as to where you might be next year, even, for filing tax returns. We've often talked about, and this is the terminology that I used when I was in on a task group, we've talked about the "golden eagle" return. This is the golden -- or gold American Express Card return. At the end of each year, if you have an American Express Card, you get a gold account summary of what you've done for the year. ... Basically, what I say is that if I know what you've made during the year, if I know what your withholding is, if I know what your spending pattern is, I should be able to generate for you a tax return so that I only come to you and tell you, 'This is what I think you should file for the next year, and if you agree to that, then don't bother sending me a piece of paper.' ... But I am an excellent advocate of return-free filing. We know everything about you that we need to know. Your employer tells us everything about you that we need to know. Your activity records on your credit cards tell us everything about you that we need to know. Through interface with Social Security, with the DMV, with your banking institutions, we really have a lot of information, so why would you, at the end of the year or on April 15th, today, do we ask the post office to encumber themselves with massive numbers of people out there, picking up pieves of paper that you are required to file? ... We could literally file a return for you. This is the future that we'd like to go to." Lest there be any doubt, she was entirely serious, and she clearly expected that that we'd all think this is as wonderful as she does. Regards, John Levine, johnl(a)iecc.com, jlevine(a)delphi.com, 1037498(a)mcimail.com

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