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From: ALAWASH E-MAIL (ALAWASH E-MAIL) <ALAWASH(a)ALAWASH.ORG>
Subject: ALAWON v6, n117 - ACTION ALERT: COPYRIGHT LEGISLATION (1 of 3)
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ALAWON Volume 6, Number 117
ISSN 1069-7799 December 18, 1997
American Library Association Washington Office Newsline
In this issue: (200 lines)
- - -ACTION ALERT: PRESIDENTS OF MAJOR LIBRARY ASSOCIATIONS ISSUE
JOINT APPEAL FOR IMMEDIATE CONGRESSIONAL CONTACTS IN SUPPORT OF
PENDING DIGITAL COPYRIGHT LEGISLATION
- - -AN OPEN LETTER TO THE LIBRARY COMMUNITY . . .
_________________________________________________________________
NOTE: This message, and important supporting material, has
been transmitted in 3 parts. This ALAWON is part 1 of 3.
ACTION ALERT: PRESIDENTS OF MAJOR LIBRARY ASSOCIATIONS ISSUE
JOINT APPEAL FOR IMMEDIATE CONGRESSIONAL CONTACTS IN SUPPORT OF
PENDING DIGITAL COPYRIGHT LEGISLATION
As detailed in the unusual letter that immediately follows
this alert, ALA President Barbara Ford and her counterparts
at three of the nations other major library associations
have jointly called upon librarians to act **immediately**
in support of two pieces of landmark copyright legislation
now pending before Congress. Specifically, the presidents
of AALL, ALA, ARL and SLA are jointly urging each of their
75,000 combined members to encourage both of their Senators
to cosponsor Sen. John Ashcroft's (R-MO) "Digital Copyright
Clarification and Technology Act" (S. 1146) and their House
Representative to cosponsor the "Digital Era Copyright
Enhancement Act," introduced by Reps. Rick Boucher (D-VA)
and Tom Campbell (R-CA) (H.R. 3048).
ALAWON readers will recall substantial activity in
Washington (and last winter in Geneva, Switzerland) directed
toward updating the nation's copyright laws for the digital
age. The introduction of the separate Senate and House
bills cited above constitutes tremendous legislative
progress toward ALA's goal of preserving the current balance
in copyright law between protecting information and
affording access to it. This progress is attributable in
large measure to the work of the Digital Future Coalition
(DFC), which ALA helped to found and in which it takes an
active role. (DFC summaries of both S. 1146 and H.R. 3048
are included in the third part of this transmission.)
Both Sen. Ashcroft's bill (S. 1146) and the Boucher/Campbell
proposal (H.R. 3048) would affirmatively modify current law
to make clear that Fair Use fully applies in the networked
environment and that preservationists may use the latest
technologies and methods. In addition, Rep. Boucher's bill
would extend the First Sale Doctrine -- the basis of all
library lending -- to the electronic environment. All three
bill sponsors also have demonstrated their commitment to
assuring that no library or librarian should be legally
liable for any copyright infringement committed by a library
user acting independently.
The presidents make clear in their letter that they view S.
1146 and H.R. 3048, taken together, as the best approach to
updating the Copyright Act to meet the challenges of the
digital environment while, at the same time, preserving the
critical balance between copyright owners and users in the
electronic age.
ACTION ALERT:
Your help is needed in the next several weeks in assisting
Sen. Ashcroft and Reps. Boucher and Campbell to persuade
other members of the Senate and House to cosponsor S. 1146
and H.R. 3048, respectively. All ALA members -- and library
supporters or all kinds -- are urgently requested to:
- - -- study the attached fact sheets detailing the intent and
provisions of S. 1146 and H.R. 3048;
- - -- write to your House and Senate delegations requesting
co-sponsorship of these bills (separate sample letters for
the Senate and House are included in part 2 of this
message); and
- - -- call and visit the members of your Congressional
delegation before January 25, 1998 and ask them specifically
to "cosponsor" S. 1146 or H.R. 3048, as appropriate.
Let Congress know that you care about updating copyright law
for all Americans. Libraries' effectiveness and vitality in
the 21st century depends on them...and on you. For
information about contacting your Senators and
Representatives and further background on this critical
legislation, please consult the ALA Washington Office
website at http://www.ala.org/washoff or the Digital Future
Coalition's home page at http://www.dfc.org. Inquiries also
may be directed to Adam Eisgrau, legislative counsel for the
ALA Washington Office, at 800/941-8478.
________________________________________________________________
AN OPEN LETTER TO THE LIBRARY COMMUNITY . . .
December 5, 1997
Dear Library Supporter:
As the presidents of four of the nation's major library
associations, we write to ask for your assistance in garnering
support for two pieces of federal legislation of critical
importance to the library community, indeed to libraries in every
community. These bills are Sen. John Ashcroft's (R-MO) "Digital
Copyright Clarification and Technology Act" (S. 1146) and the
"Digital Era Copyright Enhancement Act," jointly introduced by
Representatives Rick Boucher (D-VA) and Tom Campbell (R-CA) (H.R.
3048).
In our view, these proposals present the best approach to
updating the Copyright Act to meet the challenges of the digital
environment while, at the same time, preserving the critical
balance between copyright owners and users in the electronic age.
Both bills include provisions which are essential to libraries if
we are to effectively serve our patrons, scholars, researchers,
and students in the networked environment. We seek your
immediate help in assisting Sen. Ashcroft and Reps. Boucher and
Campbell to persuade other members of the Senate and House to
cosponsor S. 1146 and H.R. 3048, respectively.
WHY THIS EFFORT IS IMPORTANT TO ALL LIBRARIES
Each year, millions of researchers, students, and members of the
public benefit from access to library collections -- access that
is supported by fair use, preservation programs, interlibrary
loan, and more. We must ensure that the Copyright Act continues
to serve the public who rely upon these collections and services.
The Ashcroft and Boucher-Campbell bills seek to update the
Copyright Act by extending the balance that we currently enjoy so
that owners, creators, and users alike may benefit fully from the
opportunities of the digital environment. These bills
appropriately extend the balance by clarifying or updating
selected privileges granted to libraries, researchers,
educational institutions and others under current law.
ACTION IS NEEDED NOW!
Accordingly, we are asking the members of our Associations -- and
all other library supporters -- to:
-study the attached fact sheets and sample letter detailing
the intent and provisions of S. 1146 and H.R. 3048;
-write to your House and Senate delegations requesting
co-sponsorship of these bills; and
-call and visit the members of your Congressional delegation
and ask them to cosponsor S. 1146 or H.R. 3048, as
appropriate.
Senator Ashcroft, and Representatives Boucher and Campbell, would
appreciate our help in achieving passage of this potentially
landmark legislation. The most critical first step in this
process is to engage members of Congress and seek their
endorsement of these bills. Let Congress know now the importance
of updating the Copyright Act for your institution, your users,
and of ensuring that libraries will be able to effectively serve
the nation in the information age.
Thank you. Our associations stand ready to assist you in any way
that we can. Please do not hesitate to call upon us and to let
us know of your efforts.
Sincerely,
Judith A. Meadows, President
American Association of Law Libraries
Barbara J. Ford, President
American Library Association
James G. Neal, President
Association of Research Libraries
Judith J. Field, President
Special Libraries Association
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ALAWON Volume 6, Number 118
ISSN 1069-7799 December 18, 1997
American Library Association Washington Office Newsline
In this issue: (106 lines)
SAMPLE LETTERS FOR MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND
THE SENATE RE: REQUEST FOR COSPONSORSHIP OF CRITICAL COPYRIGHT
LEGISLATION
_________________________________________________________________
NOTE: This message, and important supporting material, has been
transmitted in 3 parts. This ALAWON is part 2 of 3.
NOTE: To contact your Senators or Representatives, one source is
a Library of Congress compilation at
http://lcweb.loc.gov/global/legislative/email.html.
SAMPLE LETTER FOR MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
Hon. (Name of Representative)
United States House of Representatives
Room #, (Cannon, Longworth, or Rayburn) House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515
Re: Request for Cosponsorship of Critical Copyright Legislation
Dear Representative (Last Name):
I recently learned that bipartisan legislation has been
introduced in the House by Reps. Rick Boucher of Virginia and Tom
Campbell of California which would broadly update United States
copyright law for the future in a way that will both protect the
owners of information and continue to allow librarians and
educators access to information under reasonable circumstances.
I am writing to you today to ask that you lend your name to that
legislation, the Digital Era Copyright Enhancement Act, which
has been assigned number H.R. 3048.
As a [librarian/school librarian/library user/library
trustee/friend of libraries], I feel strongly that any changes
made to the Copyright Act must be balanced in a way that allows
the benefits of the Internet to reach all sectors of society,
especially library users and students. The Boucher/Campbell bill
will accomplish this very important goal in several important
ways. When Congress reconvenes in January, please add your name
to H.R. 3048 as a cosponsor.
Thank you for your assistance in this important debate.
Sincerely,
_________________________________________________________________
SAMPLE LETTER FOR MEMBERS OF THE SENATE
Hon. (Full Name)
United States Senate
Room #, (Dirkson, Hart, or Russell)Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510
Re: Request for Cosponsorship of Critical Copyright Legislation
Dear Senator (Last Name):
I recently learned that legislation has been introduced by
Senator John Ashcroft of Missouri which would broadly update
United States copyright law for cyberspace in a way that will
both protect the owners of information and continue to allow
librarians and educators access to information under reasonable
circumstances. I am writing to you today to ask that you lend
your name to that legislation, the Digital Copyright
Clarification and Technology Education Act, which has been
assigned number S. 1146.
As a [librarian/school librarian/library user/library
trustee/friend of libraries], I feel strongly that any changes
made to the Copyright Act must be balanced in a way that allows
the benefits of the Internet to reach all sectors of society,
especially library users and school children. The Ashcroft bill
will accomplish this very important goal in several important
ways. When Congress reconvenes in January, please add your name
to S. 1146 as a cosponsor.
Thank you for your assistance in this important debate.
Sincerely,
_________________________________________________________________
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From: ALAWASH E-MAIL (ALAWASH E-MAIL) <ALAWASH(a)ALAWASH.ORG>
Subject: ALAWON v6, n119 - ACTION ALERT: COPYRIGHT LEGISLATION (3 of 3)
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ALAWON Volume 6, Number 119
ISSN 1069-7799 December 18, 1997
American Library Association Washington Office Newsline
In this issue: (213 lines)
- - -THE BOUCHER-CAMPBELL BILL (H.R. 3048)
WHAT DOES IT DO? WHY DOES DFC SUPPORT IT?
- - -THE ASHCROFT BILL (S. 1146)
WHAT DOES IT DO? WHY DOES DFC SUPPORT IT?
_________________________________________________________________
NOTE: This message, and important supporting material, has
been transmitted in 3 parts. This ALAWON is part 3 of 3.
NOTE: The Digital Future Coalition (DFC) is a coalition of
library, education, public interest and industry organizations
committed to balanced copyright policy. ALA helped to found the
coalition and takes an active role in its work.
THE BOUCHER-CAMPBELL BILL (H.R. 3048)
WHAT DOES IT DO? WHY DOES DFC SUPPORT IT?
Representatives Rick Boucher (D-VA) and Tom Campbell (R-CA) have
introduced the only comprehensive bill in the U.S. House of
Representatives that will maintain balance in the Copyright Act
by preserving for consumers, educators, librarians, researchers,
and other Netizens fundamental rights in the digital era. Like a
similar bill introduced by Senator John Ashcroft (S. 1146), this
comprehensive, balanced bill has the strong support of the DFC.
If you agree with us that the House of Representatives should
adopt the Boucher-Campbell bill instead of the legislation
proposed by the Clinton Administration (H.R. 2281), we encourage
you to send an e-mail to your elected Representative in the
House.
SECTION 1--TITLE. The bill is known as the "Digital Era Copyright
Enhancement Act."
FAIR USE. Section 2 would amend section 107 of the Copyright Act
to reaffirm that a finding of "fair use" may be made without
regard to the means by which a work has been performed,
displayed, or distributed. Thus, just as teachers, librarians,
and others may make "fair use" copies of portions of copyrighted
works today in the analog world, they may do so tomorrow in the
digital world.
LIBRARY PRESERVATION. Section 3 would amend section 108 of the
Copyright Act to allow libraries and archives to use new forms
of technology to make three copies of endangered materials for
archival purposes.
FIRST SALE. Section 4 would amend section 109 of the Copyright
Act to establish the digital equivalent of the "first sale"
doctrine. Under current law, a person who has legally obtained a
book or video cassette may physically transfer it to another
person without permission of the copyright owner. Section 4 would
permit electronic transmission of a lawfully acquired digital
copy of a work as long as the person making the transfer
eliminates erases or that copy of the work from his or her system
at substantially the same time as he or she makes the transfer.
DISTANCE LEARNING. Section 5 would amend sections 110(2) and
112(b) of the Copyright Act to ensure that educators can use
personal computers and new technology in a broad range of
educational settings in the same way they now use televisions to
foster distance learning. In addition, Section 5 would broaden
the range of works that may be performed, displayed, or
distributed to include the various kinds of works that might be
included in a multimedia lesson.
EPHEMERAL COPIES. Section 6 would amend section 117 of the
Copyright Act to make explicit that electronic copies of material
incidentally or temporarily made in the process of using a
computer or a computer network may not serve as the sole basis
for copyright infringement liability, such as when a work is
viewed on the World Wide Web.
UNFAIR LICENSES. Section 7 would effectively preclude copyright
owners from using non-negotiable license terms to abrogate or
narrow rights and use privileges that consumers otherwise would
enjoy under the Copyright Act, such as their fair use privilege,
by preempting state common and statutory law, such as the
proposed changes to the Uniform Commercial Code.
BLACK BOXES. Section 8 would implement the anti-circumvention and
copyright management information provisions of the WIPO Copyright
Treaty and the WIPO Performances and Phonograms Treaty. The
treaties do not require the broad prohibition of software and
devices that might be used by infringers as proposed in the
legislation drafted by the Clinton Administration. Consistent
with the treaties, section 8 would create liability only for a
person who, for purposes of infringement, knowingly circumvents
the operation of an effective technological measure used by a
copyright owner to limit reproduction of a work in a digital
format. The bill also would create liability for a person who
knowingly provides false copyright management information or
removes or alters copyright management information without the
authority of the copyright owner, and with the intent to mislead
or induce or facilitate infringement.
_________________________________________________________________
THE ASHCROFT BILL (S. 1146)
WHAT DOES IT DO? WHY DOES DFC SUPPORT IT?
Senator John Ashcroft (Missouri) has introduced the only
comprehensive bill that will maintain balance in the Copyright
Act by preserving for consumers, educators, librarians,
researchers, and other Netizens fundamental rights in the digital
era. The bill contains three separate titles. They are summarized
below. If you agree with us that Congress should enact this law
instead of separate legislation proposed by the Clinton
Administration, we encourage you to send an e-mail to Senators on
the Judiciary Committee.
TITLE I. OSP/ISP LIABILITY
To foster the continued growth of the Internet, this portion of
the bill would--
-clarify that merely providing network services and
facilities for transmitting an electronic communication will
not result in liability under the Copyright Act;
-confirm that providing a site-linking aid, a navigational
aid (including a search engine or browser), or the tools for
creating a site-linking aid will not result in liability
under the Copyright Act;
-clarify that Internet and on-line service providers will
not be liable for third-party copyright infringement unless
they have received notice and have a reasonable opportunity
to limit the third-party infringement; and
-confirm that an employee of an educational institution,
library, or archives will not be deemed to have received
notice and thus will not be required to "take down" an
allegedly infringing work if she believed the use was a fair
use or otherwise lawful.
TITLE II. TECHNOLOGY FOR TEACHERS AND LIBRARIANS
Section 202 would amend section 107 of the Copyright Act to
reaffirm that a finding of "fair use" may be made without regard
to the means by which a work has been performed, displayed, or
distributed. Thus, just as teachers, librarians, and others may
make "fair use" copies of portions of copyrighted works today in
the analog world, they may do so tomorrow in the digital world.
Section 203 would amend section 108 of the Copyright Act to allow
libraries to use new forms of technology to make three copies of
endangered materials for archival purposes.
Section 204 would amend section 110(2) and 112(b) of the
Copyright Act to ensure that educators can use personal computers
to foster "distance learning" in a broad range of educational
settings in the same way they use televisions in traditional
classrooms today.
Section 205 would amend section 117 of the Copyright Act to make
explicit that electronic copies of material incidentally or
temporarily made in the process of using a computer or a computer
network may not serve as the sole basis for copyright
infringement liability, such as when a work is viewed on the
World Wide Web.
TITLE III. WIPO IMPLEMENTATION
Sections 1201 and 1202 would implement provisions of two
international copyright treaties adopted by the World
Intellectual Property Organization. The WIPO treaties oblige
signatory nations to offer legal protection against circumvention
of technology intended to protect copyrighted material against
infringement, but do not require the broad prohibition of
software or devices that might be used by infringers.
Section 1201 would only create liability for a person who--for
purposes of infringing a copyrighted work--knowingly circumvents
the application of an effective anti-copying measure used to
protect a work in a digital format. In contrast, the legislation
proposed by the Clinton Administration at the urging of Hollywood
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> The Clinton administration was in the middle of a firestorm yesterday
>after officials admitted blocking a global broadcast of a Wei Jingsheng
>interview for fear of annoying China.
> Officials tried in vain to stop the government radio station, Voice of
>America (VOA), from broadcasting the interview, but succeeded in blocking
>it from Worldnet.
Both are propaganda arms of the US government. For better
or worse the idea is to allow the US President to promote his
political agenda across the world. If the US president decides
not to allow a person access to his propaganda machine thats
not censorship, its an editorial decision.
There is a great new history of both agencies called 'Warriors
of disinformation' written by Wick's second in command.
I am not opposed in principle to governments having a propaganda
agency but VoA and Worldnet should be shut down completely.
Unlike the BBC they have entirely failed to gain credibility, the
propaganda they broadcast is as obvious and transparent as
radio Moscow, and about as interesting.
To appreciate the subtlty of World service propaganda you have
to listen very hard. For example during a refuge crisis there is
a long piece about the ex-pat Kurd communities in Australia and
Toronto. The propaganda objective being to make refugees make
those places their destinations of choice.
CNN has made VoA entirely obsolete. The best thing the US
could do would be to give them the VoA shortwave transmitters
and retire.
The only place where Worldnet has had a measurable impact is
in the West generally and the US in particular. Worldnet spin
allowed the Russian shooting down of KAL 007 over Russian
Airspace to be presented as an act of unconsionable perfidy
while the Vincent's shooting down of an Iranian civilian airplane
in international airspace was presented as 'an unfortunate
accident'.
The piece de resistance of US propaganda efforts is TV
Marti which costs the US millions of dollars each year to
broadcast from a blimp moored in Florida. It costs Castro
a few thousand dollars to jam it using cheap transmitters.
Television is much easier to jam than radio, both because
of the frequencies used and the need for a clear timing
signal.
Ironically the Cubans have said that they are quite happy
to have US TV, they just can't resist an opportunity for a
cheap propaganda victory of their own. The idea that Cubans
can keep the Imperialist Americans at bay by being smarter
is the big idea keeping Castro in power. ABC, NBC and
CNN signals are quite wellcome.
There is good reason to believe them since in Dresden the
East German authorities errected a relay station to broadcast
west german TV. They were finding it difficult to persuade
people to work in Dresden which is out of range of the West
German TV signal.
The best propaganda a democratic government can create
is that outside its control. Political change in South Africa
came partly as a result of US TV shows which showed Blacks
in positions of authority. The Web will effect political change
through person to person interactions, on USEnet, IRC and
mailing lists.
I don't think it is a good idea for a democratic government to
spend money propagandising to its own people. I don't think
that the US has the subtlety to propagandise effectively to
others. Ergo it should get out of the propaganda business
entirely.
Phill
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Over the years I've sometimes joined in on the jokes about Microsoft and
Bill Gates...the jokes about the Borg, assimilation, and the habits of
Gates. And I've lately really enjoyed the "Saturday Night Live" skits
involving Bill Gates interrupting the Pope to announce that Microsoft has
merged with Christmas, and so on.
As a longtime Macintosh user, and only occasional user of MS products, it's
mostly of entertainment value to me to see what MS is doing.
(Caveat: I used Microsoft Basic on Intel MDS systems (8080-based), circa
1977-78, bought a PC in the early 80s, bought "Microsoft Word" Version 1.00
when most people were buying Samna Word, Wordstar, and other such vanished
products, and even bought the execrable, terrible, crufty, horrible
"Windows 1.0" when it first came out, circa 1984. And for my Macintosh, I
bought Microsoft Word 1.05 and used it for many years in various versions.
I currently use no Microsoft products on a daily basis.)
Anyway, the recent government actions against Microsoft are reprehensible
to any person who values liberty. Microsoft is being punished for its
success.
The appearance of Ralph Nader, Jamie Love, and executives of Netscape (who
are miffed that _their_ attempted monopoly is being threatened by MS!), in
the (ironic) "Microsoft Bash," along with opportunistic actions by various
states' attorney generals, and with judges imposing million dollar a day
fines.....
Well, it's all a familiar pattern. I hate to say it, but read parts of
"Atlas Shrugged" to see this piling on, this "taking down the successful a
few notches" behavior.
Attila T. Hun is, for some reason, bashing MS a lot. I'll use one of his
posts to make some specific points:
At 10:15 AM -0700 12/21/97, Attila T. Hun wrote:
>> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A federal judge Friday told Microsoft
>> Corp. he easily uninstalled the company's Web browser
>> without breaking Windows 95 and ordered company officials to
>> explain why they could not do the same. "Windows 95
>> functioned flawlessly" with Internet Explorer uninstalled,
>> U.S. District Judge Thomas Penfield Jackson told Microsoft.
>>
> mistake #1: dont piss off a federal judge --let alone
> try to show that he is ignorant.
PC makers like Compaq, Dell, Gateway, etc., are in fact perfectly free to
bundle Netscape Navigator (or whatever the Do Everything version is called)
with their systems. Microsoft is then perfectly free, in a free society, to
say "Fine, then don't put Windows on your machines."
Right?
Customers can then make their choices. Or can buy Windows in the nearest
software store. The way it used to be done.
Yielding to pressure from the court, MS is now allowing PC makers to also
include Netscape Navigator. Well, none have yet elected to do so...quite
probably because Netscape is _charging_ for this, and MS is not.
(To Ralph Nader, and perhaps even to Attila, that MS is _giving_ away its
browser, free for the download and free to the PC vendors, is itself a
crime.)
...
> this is my one big fear: the DOJ will accept a plea
> bargain like they did last time and it will be back
> to business as usual for M$ --and they will be back in
> court within a year having gained even more horizontal
> and vertical control of the entire communications
> and information industries --and claiming again that
> they are misunderstood --and complying with the order,
> etc.
Customers are voting with their pocketbooks. They like the MS offerings
more than they like the competing offerings...of which there are still many.
(Macintosh, Unix in several flavors (incl Linux), and loyal followings for
older OSes. Sun and Oracle and others are pushing for Java-based systems to
obsolete the MS products. This is a major struggle which analyses about
Microsoft's "domination" seem to ignore.)
>
> there is only one solution to organizations like M$
> which are operated without ethics: treat them to the
> pleasures of not only the antitrust laws but the
> exquisite delights of RICO.
I cannot understand how Attila can so enthusiastically support this. His
"exquisite delights" even recalls Torquemada and the Inquistion. A suitable
term for what is being to MS, in my view.
> M$ is a cancer; it has fully metasticized and is gorging
> itself at the banquet of the vanquished.
Ralph Nader would probably be interested in hiring ATH as a speech writer.
....
> anyway, just think where M$ would be with Royce today!
> Gate$ and Ballmer might be down at the local MCC for a
> few free 3 hots and a cot, all expenses paid, "enjoying"
> a well earned vacation from screwing all of us.
I take it that ATH means that because something like 20 or 30 million
Americans chose to buy Windows 95 (and thus gain the benefits we Macintosh
users have had for many years :-}) that this means "we" were screwed?
> Other than the usual ills of a monopoly, what really
> irks anyone with a modicum of intelligence is that Gate$
> intends to migrate the entire package for the benefit of
> the couch potatoes; Gate$ intends to dictate not only
> what we use to view his trash, but that only his trash
> is splashed.
Why not pick on Intel? Intel is, if anything, even more of a "monopoly"
than MS is. While customers have some reasonable choices in OSes
(Windows/NT, Unix, Linux, Macintosh, AmigaOS, Inferno, Java-based
developments, etc.), the fact is that all of the surviving OSes are being
ported to the Intel platform (pace recent announcements by Sun that Solaris
will be on Merced at its rollout in 1999, and earlier announcements by
H-P, DEC, and IBM along the same lines).
But neither MS nor Intel are "monopolies." They are just the People's
Choice. Which always tends to cluster...the big really do get bigger. For
awhile, at least, until the paradigm shifts and the big can't adapt quickly
enough.
Of the 10 biggest chip makers in 1970, all are distant seconds to Intel,
the world's largest producer of chips, in dollar amount. (And in total
square meters of silicon output.)
....
>> After the hearing Friday, Christine Varney, a former Federal
>> Trade Commissioner now representing Netscape, was jubilant.
>> "I think the judge has understood the seriousness of the
>> issue," she said.
>>
> she had every reason to be jubilant --so far. even if
> the judge did not fully understand the technological
> bullshit M$ was trying to slide on by, the judge fully
> understands that M$ was trying to blind pitch him --and
> insulting him to boot.
Of _course_ she's jubilant! Netscape wants its "rightfully-earned monopoly"
back! Has anyone forgotten that in 1995 it was looking like Netscape would
be on 95% of all desktops, Windows, Mac, and Unix, and that it was turning
into the Big Bad Monopoly? Are memories really that short?
Netscape has been using its legal manouvers to attempt to stop Microsoft
from horning in on _its_ monopoly.
(I hate using the term "monopoly," but if critics of MS are going to use
it, hey, when in Rome....)
>> Microsoft stock closed at $128.69, down $2.19 on NASDAQ,
>> where it was among the most active issues.
> yes, down almost 20 points since their fiasco with the
> DOJ started. before it's over, I hope to see M$ listed
> with the junk bonds and issues --in the penny stocks.
>
Yep, sort of the way Netscape stock went from its IPO price of around $25
(in today's shares) to $80 when it looked like Netscape Navigator and
related products were going to be the Next Big Monopoly....and then
plummeted down to the $30-40 range as it appeared this was not the way
things were going to turn out....
Netscape stock is currently at $27 3/4, just about where it began trading
in '95.
Even so, Navigator remains popular on many platforms. Microsoft Explorer is
by no means a monopoly.
And MS announced a long time ago, in '95 if I recall correctly, that the
Web was such a big deal (let us not forget that some were saying Gates had
missed the boat on the Web and MS would falter) that the URL addressing
scheme would be _built in_ to future versions of its OS so as to make Web
browsing and file browsing identical, and to facillitate intranets. "One
big file system."
Like this or not, it makes a certain amount of sense.
Ah, but now we face the spectacle of a judge or panel of Nader-pandering
bureaucrats telling Microsoft what features it will be allowed to include
in its operating system.
Perhaps the graphics chip companies facing extinction as Intel puts massive
graphics capabilities into new chips can sue on antitrust grounds and get a
"special master" to dictate to Intel what features it may put into chips?
(Certainly the long-departed Weitek might have survived a few more years
had Ralph Nader turned his unsafe at any speed attention to the floating
point processing market and gotten an injunction against Intel putting
onboard floating point instructions into the 486.)
I cannot understand how any Cypherpunk can be advocating interference in
the market the way Attila and a few others are doing.
Making jokes about Bill Gates is one thing, just harmless fun. But
advocating the Men with Guns (TM) seize control of the products he offers
to uncoerced customers is simply wrong.
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politas(a)dynamite.com.au (Politas) wrote:
> >And if someone makes what you consider an annoying telephone call from a
> >public telephone, should the phone company remove the telephone? Sure, they
> >may be able to trace the telephone used, but not who used it.
>
> You are making unnecessary and incorrect parallels. Tracing the
> telephone used _is_ the equivalent of the sending email address.
Yes but tracing a call to a pay phone is the equivalent to tracing an
anonymous e-mail back to a remailer. In fact, anonymous e-mail already
contains information identifying the remailer it came from, so no additional
tracing effort is required.
> >Just as the anonymous person is paying for his own access to the internet.
> >The anonymous caller to your telephone is not paying your monthly telephone
>
> with anonymous email, you also don't get any information about the
> whereabouts of the person, which you do from the snail mail post
> office.
Perhaps you're unaware that snail mail "remailers" existed long before their
e-mail counterparts came along. (Perhaps they still do, I haven't checked.)
You'd address a letter, place a stamp on it, and place it inside another
envelope addressed to the remailer service along with whatever fee they
charged, in cash. When they received it, they'd open the outer envelope,
place the inner envelope back in the mail, throw the outer envelope away,
and pocket their fee.
All the recipient saw was a postmark from a certain post office. You'd know
that SOMEBODY mailed the letter at that post office, or at least somewhere
withing their collection area. It wasn't necessarily the person who wrote the
letter, though. Let's say that you get a letter that's postmarked "Chicago,
IL". Upon further investigation, you determine that it was mailed from
somewhere withing the boundaries of the post office branch which also serves
O'Hare International Airport, which is the USA's busiest airport. How does
that solve your professed need to know who sent it?
> >> You'd be amazed
> >> how often people who send "anonymous" letter bombs get caught.
> >
> >Yes, for both the e-mail and snail mail variety. It's much easier to send
> >an e-mail bomb from a throwaway ISP account than from a remailer, anyway.
> >Most remailers have fairly small size restrictions, for one thing, and if you
> >start sending too many individual e-mails through a remailer, the software
> >WILL take note of that fact and flag that fact for the operator.
>
> And your point is? Email bombs aren't the only thing I am concerned
> about here.
If you'll be specific, then perhaps I can address those concerns.
> >> Because I'd like it to be so. I'm not really calling for anything
> greater
> >> than we currently have with the phone system.
> >
> >Then you already have that.
>
> Not if there are anon remailers that store _no_ information about the
> sender of a message.
You said earlier that you were concerned about *REPEATED* abuse. If you
can do something to prevent a repetition after (or even before) receiving the
first e-mail you consider abusive, then your problem is solved, is it not?
> > If you don't want calls from a certain caller,
> >you can arrange to have them blocked. If you don't want "anonymous" calls,
> >you can have incoming calls without caller ID information blocked, just as
> >you can request that the remailers not send you any anonymous e-mail.
>
> Each remailer separately. That means at least one message from every
> remailer in the world. It's almost as bad as spammers offering
> "remove lists"
There aren't that many remailers around, and a request to one of them to
have your address blocked, with a further request that they pass it on to
their fellow remailer operators should do the trick. If someone is sending
you SPAM via a remailer, then you need to notify the remailer operator. They
usually act very quickly to stop that from happening, since it wastes their
resources as well as yours. By its very nature, spam is detectable in a
content-neutral and sender-neutral fashion.
> >(None of this really has anything to do with anonymous PUBLIC posts.)
>
> None of what? I included public postings in my statement. I may not
> have done it explicitly enough. I really do believe that people
> should be accountable for what they do online. If they cannot find
> anywhere in the world where those activities are acceptable, then they
> shouldn't be doing it.
That's the whole point of using remailers -- so that some country that wants
to be tyrranical can't hunt down someone in another country that does something
it considers "politically incorrect". If something annoys you, then stop
reading it. Killfile the author. Killfile all remailers if you like. Don't
use dynamite (pun intended) to exterminate cockroaches.
> >"Presumed innocent until proven guilty" is still in force here. I might well
> >say that I can see no purpose for owning a printing press other than to print
> >"subversive" material, yet I still retain that right here in the USA until
> >you can prove that I've used it for illegal purposes. If you can prove that,
> >then you can get a court injunction against me. But you can't take away that
> >right based on what you think I *MIGHT* do.
>
> YEs, and if I can get a court injunction against an anonymous account,
> I expect to be able to trace that back to a person eventually.
> *Possible* NOT *easy*.
You're welcome to TRY, but nothing says that the person has any duty to make
it easy for you.
> >Of course, sometimes "breaking laws" IS the reason for anonymity. If the
> >government were to outlaw the dissemination of certain politically incorrect
> >ideas, then the only way to safely do so might be anonymously.
>
> Yes, so you find a remailer in a country that will support your
> "political incorrectness". What's the problem?
None. The solution you suggest is what already exists.
> You guys have to stop thinking insularly.
Please define "you guys".
> Yes a single country's govt may not be able to be
> trusted. But unless we change to a single world totalitarian govt
> (which I think unlikely), there will always be somewhere that
> political freedom will be promoted.
There is. And there are places that allow anonymous remailers to operate as
they currently do. I have no problem with that. Do you?
> >If you feel that strongly about anonymous e-mail, then simply ask the
> >remailer operators to have your address blocked from receiving any. Your
> >(potential) problem is then solved.
>
> I'm not really worried about it. I don't normally annoy people enough
> for them to worry about me. Although, I hardly think that it is a
> "simple" thing to tell everyone who runs an anonymous remailer
> anything.
Have you even TRIED? You seem to be inventing problems where none exist.
If you're not worried about yourself, how do you know that others appreciate
your worrying on their behalf?
> >> Oh come now, you make it sound like Hotmail are doing it all out of the
> >> goodness of their hearts. They *are* making money, you know.
> >
> >I'm sure they are, but the extra costs of positively IDing users would have
> >to be paid somehow.
>
> What extra costs? storing the IP address or the email address used to
> register the account?
Are you offering to donate the disk space? If you can convince Hotmail and
other providers to do what you're suggesting, and provided they properly
inform all new and existing users of this new policy far enough in advance
to make other plans if they so desire, I would not object.
Just don't expect anyone with a need for more than superficial "anonymity"
to use such a service. Indeed, they probably already don't, anyway.
> >Of course they can. Ultimately, each person is responsible for maintaining
> >his own privacy. There's always a risk.
>
> Not if you can use an anonymous remailer that keeps no information to
> trace you with. That's just making it too easy.
"Too easy"? How so? Are you saying that protecting one's privacy should be
difficult?
You're also being redundant when you say "anonymous remailer that keeps no
information to trace you with". If they store the information you're
suggesting, then you're quite obviously NOT anonymous, even if some users
mistakenly think they are.
> > Those who anonymously (and illegally)
> >used fax machines to send uncensored news out of China during the Tianamen
> >Square uprising were obviously taking such a risk. Does it bother you that
> >the technology did not exist to identify and prosecute those who did so?
>
> The technology did exist. The necessary information may not have been
> available to those who wanted to use it, but it did exist. If all the
> countries involved had been cooperating, they could have been found.
> Freedom from the oppressive regime is provided by the other country.
And so if you convince the Australian government to ban truly anonymous
remailers, they may still exist in other countries to protect Aussies. There
already are countries that have banned encryption and anonymous communication.
AFAIC, any regime that's that paranoid about anonymity is an "oppressive
regime" as you've termed it. To quote one of the USA's founders,
"When the government fears the people there is liberty.
When the people fear the government there is tyranny".
> >No, but that's a different scenario than the telephone company requiring a
> >form of positive identification before using a pay phone. You aren't
> >assuming that these "repeated offenses" involving pay phones all were made
> >using the SAME TELEPHONE each time, are you? Not all harrassing callers
> >would be that stupid, although some might be.
>
> Of course not. But if someone is repeatedly phoning me, it is quite
> possible that spread out police could be able to catch the person
> calling with a good enough organisation. The effort required is
> immense, fairly similar to the effort required to convince another
> country to accept a warrant to break privacy of an anonymous remailer.
And if the remailer stored no information to tempt litigious individuals,
firms, and governments, then that problem would be solved altogether. It's the same principle that stores
use when they leave their cash registers EMPTY and UNLOCKED at night. A thief
will often cause more damage to the cash register breaking into it than the
amount of the money that it contains. What you're suggesting is that the
person's privacy be violated BEFORE any law is broken, just in case he MIGHT
break a law later.
> >In the case of anonymous e-mail, you can trace it back to the remailer
> >utilized just like you can trace a phone call back to the telephone used.
> >But what does thay buy you? You still don't know WHO made the call or sent
> >the e-mail. Actually in the case of anonymous e-mail you have one additional
> >safeguard. You can ask to be blocked from receiving anonymous e-mail. Try
> >telling the telephone company that you want to be blocked from receiving
> >calls from any pay phone!
>
> So, if I want to not receive anonymous email, I'd have to contact
> every single anonymous remailer in the world, and ask to be excluded?
> Sorry, that kind of argument just doesn't wash. Anyway, what if I
> want to be able to receive anonymous messages, but I just want this
> one person who is trampling on my rights to stop? Why should I give
> in to them?
It's your choice. Go visit the list of remailers currently in operation and
count how many there are. If it's too much trouble for you to send a single
block request, CCed to a dozen or so addresses, then you probably don't have
a strong enough case to go to court, obtain a warrant or subpoena, either.
By the time you go through that process, you'll have invested far more time
and effort than sending an e-mail or two to prevent the problem.
> And Peter da Silva was calling me silly?
I don't speak for him, nor he for me.
> About the main one I can
> think of is harassment. That can be anonymous, and can certainly be
> illegal, depending on the level of harassment.
If it's not serious enough for you to request that your e-mail address
be blocked, then why should the authorities think it's serious enough to
devote the resources to hunt down your harasser?
> >And if something is merely annoying, then prevention makes more sense than
> >building in the ability to hunt down the sender.
>
> Why not both? Trying to 100% prevent something without crippling your
> own lifestyle can be difficult. I wouldn't want to prevent all
> anonymous email reaching me, and I wouldn't want to give up on the
> usefulness of email.
If the only purpose of anonymous e-mail is to break the law, then why
WOULDN'T you want to block it? Do you have some reason you'd want to hear
from people you consider lawbreakers?
> If someone really wants to send me email, there
> is no way I can prevent it short of not allowing any untrusted
> accounts to email me. And that's reducing my lifestyle. It's giving
> in.
That's your choice. The solution exists if you choose to use it.
> >Like anonymous e-mail itself, any surefire means of identifying the sender of
> >a message is also prone to abuse. That's why the "Big Brother Inside"
> >concept is a cure that's worse than the disease.
>
> Only within a single country. With an international network like this
> one, it is ridiculously easy to get around the laws of any one
> country. Getting around the laws of EVERY country on the net is a lot
> harder, and should rightly be so.
So if somebody in Argentina decides to harrass someone in England, how would
what you're proposing solve that problem?
> Besides, there's no such thing as a 'surefire' means of identifying
> the sender with the method I proposed. It would still be possible to
> get anonymous messages out.
It's good to see that you're finally coming to that realization. I'd just
like to keep it so.
> Consider who needs to cooperate in order to trace an anonymous-
> remailer message when tracing information has been stored:
>
> The recipient
> The recipient's local law enforcement
> The recipient's local court system (possibly)
> The anonymous remailer's local law enforcement
> The anonymous remailer (even if forced to assist by law, they can
> still refuse to divulge information, and/or tip off the sender)
> The anonymous remailer's local court system (possibly)
> The anonymous remailer's local government
> The sender's local law enforcement
> The sender's local court system
> The sender's local government
>
> Still think that "Big Brother" is a problem here? Even a public
> posting only removes the top three layers here.
All this to nail a public poster who's offended you? The problem with an
idealistic approach like this is that the prohibitive expense of defending
against frivolous litigation tends to circumvent most of the safeguards
you're hypothesizing here. If the remailer doesn't have the financial
resources to match those of the attacker, whether it be the Church of
Scientology trying to silence a dissident ex-member or the government of
Iran trying to prosecute an anonymous poster for "blasphemy against Islam",
what protects the anonymous poster's legitmate privacy concerns?
The point you're missing is that you're trying to bypass due process and
violate the privacy of every sender on the theory that he MIGHT eventually
do something illegal. Unless the remailer had already violated the sender's
privacy by storing identifying information, then your hunt would stop right
there.
The remailers have found from experience that it's easier to simply not store
unneeccessary identifying information on the sender in the first place, rather
than spending money on needless litigation trying to keep it confidential
later on.
How would your proposal be implemented? Some international law requiring
remailers to start keeping logs of their users' e-mail? By your own admission,
all it would take is one hold out who refused to host "Big Brother Inside" to
defeat your scheme.
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There is no doubt that the speech emsrunding holocaust denial is hate speech.
Ernst Zundel, one with whom I am very familiar portrays Jews as terrorists, criminals and states
that the Jews themselves are to blame for the holocaust.
No doubt that holocaust denial is hate speech.
At the issue of freedom of speech is also the
hypocrasy of most of those who claim to be victims of Orwellian thought crime laws.
Ernst Zundel is in fact in support of censorship of Jewish films such
as Holocaust and Schindler's List.
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/z}zundel-ernst/
I don't think Mr. Zundel or Aryan for this matter should be punished
for their lies, but they should neither gain any credibility in the free speech movement.
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I just saw a very interesting story on the Discovery Channel.
In 1953 the US was actively pursuing bio warfare (a subject of current
interest to me). Frank Olson was a good bacteriologist working for the gubmint
(NIH?), in close contact with the CIA. One night he attended a work-related
party, where everyone acted strangely; the next day, he a) decided to resign
his job, b) discussed his classified bio warfare work with people on his car
pool. But the gubmint didn't accept his resignation and instead sent him to
NYC for a psychiatric evaluation. He was sharing a hotel room with a CIA
employee, who claims that he was woken up the sound of breaking glass: Frank
Olson supposedly jumped out the window.
In 1975 it was revealed that at the party the attendees were given LSD without
their concent as part of a CIA experiment, which is why everyone was acting
strangely. Pres Ford issued an official apology to Olson's family and gave
them $750,000 in compensation.
Now there's a new twist. In 1953, the gubmint insisted that Olson be buried in
a closed casket, claiming he had cuts and bruises on his face. The family
never saw him. In 1994 his son has the body exhumed and re-examined. There
were no cuts and bruises, but forensic evidence suggests very strongly that he
was hit with something over the head and then thrown out the window. The NYC
DA has now started a murder investigation.
This has little crypto relevance, except for the bio warfare angle, and the
question: do you want these guys to have access to your cryptographic keys?
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Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM
Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps
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The Floodgate Users Guide will teach you, step by step, how to download the right files, how to strip the addresses, and finally, how to cut and paste the formatted addresses into your marketing letter. Or, if you have an Internet account, how to create distribution lists. One you've done this a few times you won't even have to think. It's that simple!
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As you may know, the practice of sending unsolicited email is usually frowned upon, and most service providers have rules against it. But, like jay-walking, there is little enforcement. It's not illegal. If someone tells you that it is, ask them to provide the citation (and don't let them give you some nonsense about faxes - that's not email). They can't do it because it's not there. Sometimes, when a lot of people complain, I get a warning letter. And that's about it.
About 1 in 200 will write back and tell me, "take me off the list", which I can do, thanks to Floodgates Remove List feature. Many people reply back thanking me for sending them my informative letter. That's always nice. Most people though, just reply and say, "send me more info." In this way, it usually takes me two or three letters to close a sale.
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1. CompuServe Classifieds: Send your marketing letter to everyone who is running a classified ad. I'll teach you how to download all the classifieds from any single ad category. This is one of the most responsive list of buyers. They check their email every day and they're already in business.
2. America On-line Classifieds: Download 1,000 addresses in 15 minutes. These are excellent lists for business to business sales.
3. CompuServe Forums: You can join a forum and download hundreds of forum messages in a matter of minutes.
4. America On-line Forums: Choose from dozens of forums. All good targeted lists.
5. Prodigy Forums: Prodigy allows you to easily export any group of forum messages. More targeted lists.
6. Internet Newsgroups: These are all targeted lists. You'll be able to send your marketing letter to everyone who posts a message in any newsgroup. Easily collect 1,000's of addresses per hour.
7. America On-line Member Directory: Most member directories only allow you to search by city and state. With AOL, you can search by business type, hobbies, computer type, etc. This is the gem of all
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8. CompuServe Member Directory: This is a major resource. If you're willing to target your mailing to a single city, you can collect about 1,000 email addresses an hour.
9. Delphi Member Directory: The Delphi member directory allows you to search for people based on key words. These are good targeted mailing lists. A single search can easily generate 5,000 addresses.
10. Genie Member Directory: Similar to the CompuServe member directory, only you can download names much quicker. You can easily pull hundreds of thousands of addresses out of each of these member directories.
11. CompuServe File Cabinet: If you run classified ads, and save the responses in the CIM file cabinet, you'll be able to easily reuse these addresses. You can send your marketing letter to everyone in any single folder. Build master lists and clean UP your hard drive.
12. Free Form: If you have a text file with email addresses that floodgate does not support, chances are the Free Form filter will be just what you need. Just enter a key word to search for.
13. CompuServe Form Profiles (Forum Membership Directories): Easy to build targeted lists here. Each search can easily bring you 500+
addresses.
14. Genie Profiles: If you're building targeted lists, you'll get a lot of addresses very quickly from Genie.
15. Plain Addresses: Read Floodgate Master Files back into Floodgate to merge files and do selective mailings. Also useful for the management of email address lists that you might purchase.
Floodgate also has filters to allow you to include or exclude any groups of addresses in your final distribution lists. For example, you could include only email addresses that ended in .com or exclude all with .gov. You could exclude all noc, root, and other addresses that almost guarantee a negative response. These filters are fully configurable and can be used together.
BUILD REUSABLE MASTER FILES
Floodgate maintains Master Files for each of your marketing letters. If you download from the same place on a regular basis, you only want to send your letter to the new people. Floodgate will compare the new addresses with those in the Master File, and prepare a mailing list of only new people. The new addresses are, of course, then added to the Master File. With each new mailing your Master File grows and grows.
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THE REMOVE LIST
Very often, people will reply and tell you to take them off your mailing list. Place these addresses in the REMOVE.MST file and they will never receive another letter from you again. In this way, you will be operating your business with the most professionalism
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- Let's also say you only get a 1% response(occasionally higher).
* That's 500 orders x $5 = $2,500 profit !! Now imagine what 500,000 letters would do for your business !!
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You can market anything on-line using direct email, that can be marketed using conventional postal direct mail marketing. The possibilities are practically endless. If it sells off-line, you can sell it on-line.
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The Floodgate Email Loader requires Windows. The SUPPLIED MANUAL tells you where to go, what to do, and how to do it. All you need are basic computer skills that can be learned with a little practice or help from our computer savvy technicians.
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