December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: PGP assimilated by NAI
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Anonymous wrote: > No doubt. I offer the observation that only someone doing > a favor for the government or someone operating from the > totally mind-fucked perspective of modern mismanagement > would invest good money to buy a company whose principal > asset was its "good will" and proceed to completely trash > that marketplace good will, abandon the world-famous > name of product and company, and physically assimilate > the hapless wage slaves working there by another group > that represents the antithesis of what PGP stood for in > the minds of virtually all who knew it, worldwide. How > can this _possibly_ be a good business decision in and > of itself? Occam's Razor: It isn't -- it's only good in > terms of what someone may have promised in return for > destroying PGP. It's a lot easier to see how that might > be the case than to see how NAI/NG could come out winning > in the marketplace by cancelling out everything that PGP, > Inc. had going for it. Back in the 'old days', when I had to walk ten miles, uphill, in a blinding snowstorm, only to find that computers did not exist yet, I was a founder of one of the first Canadian anti-nuclear grassroots organizations. Once the anti-nuke movement had progressed to the point where it was a viable entity, worthy of press coverage, etc., the Canadian government began to 'recognize' the legitimacy of the movement, and to 'fund' it (hee-hee). I went to the self-congratulatory celebration party held by the members of the group I had founded who had managed to line up at the government trough by abandoning their ethics and values in favor of a government-mandated policy of taking a 'reasonable' middle-road in the group's activities. I was there for eleven minutes. I spent the first five minutes shoveling as much free food as humanly possible down my throat. I spent the next five minutes draining every bottle of free liquor in sight down my throat. I spent the next minute barfing everything I had consumed all over the government representative who was in attendance to make certain that everyone was toeing the line and not saying 'bad things' about the Canadian government or the Nuclear Power Industry. Prologic Management Systems, Inc., bought Basis, Inc., in Berzerkeley a couple years ago (considered by some to be the main lair of a secret organization dedicated to preventing the Evil One from using computer technology to imprison the minds and souls of humankind). My research indicated that Prologic was a spook-owned 'company killer' which specialized in buying out and decimating companies who actually had a capacity to resist the diabolical aims of the NWO. When Network Associates bought PGP, I did similar research on NAI and Network General, and came to the same conclusions. > ("Psst! Buy PGP > and fuck it over until no one recognizes or trusts it, > and we'll throw you a $50 million contract next year > from our Black Budget!") I have a friend in Arizona who asks me for investment advice, and I recently told him to invest heavily in companies being acquired by WorldComm. My rationalization for his investing heavily in companies in league with the Anti-Christ was that, when Jesus comes back, he'll have enough money to buy him a meal and drinks at the best restaurant in town, thus redeeming himself. > This is a Pretty Good Example of why it was a Pretty > Bad Idea to form PGP, Inc. in the first place. Phil, > the brave but too-politically-correct middle-aged naive > liberal guy, is seeing his creation burn to ashes before > his eyes. Parents should never outlive their children -- > it ruins them, as is part of the game plan here, I > suspect. > FuckedAgainGeezMyAssIsGettingSoreMonger II Whenever the government 'legitimatizes' any organization/product, it is generally for the purpose of co-opting/fucking them. The government uses the carrot-stick method on the citizen-animal. First, it gives them the carrot/benefit for registering their identity with the government (SSN#) and then it gives them the stick/buttfucking once they are identified and categorized. ImFromTheGovernmentAndImHereToHelpBendOverAndGiveMeYourNumberMonger

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Re: Software license detector vans
by The Spectre 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 13:15 3/17/98 , you wrote: >Well, you don't have to cover *every* house, just *any* house. THe >Brits have vans that roam around looking for unlisenced sattelite >receivers, and it provides a pretty effective deterrant. That works in that scenario, but you do have to monitor *every* house, and continually, if you want to catch a software pirate.. in the satellite scenario, they're just looking for a signal to see if it exists or not. In the M$ scheme, you'd have to get the license key and compare it against a database to see if that license key was in use by anyone else at that exact moment... it's not illegal to use multiple copies of the same piece of software, it's just illegal to use them concurrently. -The Spectre [SP4 w/ clam cluster] -http://www.anthrax.net/cos "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently." -- Neitzsche, _The_Dawn_ PGP key available from servers.

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Corporate Children
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Bienfait Nutly News] IN A RIOTOUS, DRUNKEN ORGY AT THE COALDUST SALOON, representatives of Canadian Funeral Home Association celebrated their success in bribing enough Canadian officials, bureaucrats, politicians and mobsters to pull off the advertising coupe of the century. Beginning on April 19, 1998, at 9:02 a.m., Canadian funeral homes will be able to bid on advertising space on the ceilings of maternity wards, birthing rooms and infant care facilities across the nation. Jealous of the recent success of soft-drink and liquor companies in gaining a virtual stranglehold on the public school and college market, the CFHA appealed to the North American Advertising Coalition for support, on the grounds that establishing a Cradle-to-Grave precedent for access to the minds of the citizens would be good for the industry as a whole. Lou Armbuster, who engineered Smith & Wesson's successful bid for access to the prison advertising market, stated, "We are certain that this will be a major step in preventing people from putting off dealing with funeral arrangements until it is too late, leaving their relatives vulnerable to unscrupulous operators during their period of grief." When asked about the rumor that the "Vote Hoffa" ads appearing on the sides of the majority of coffins recently was part of a pre- arranged deal for Teamster Union support, Mr. Armbuster punched out the lights of the reportwhore who asked the question. PGP Inc., under fire recently for the fact that their latest version of Corporate GAKware has a 'comment' line that defaults to "Louis Freeh for President!", contends that it does not constitute free political advertising, since the customer has the option to change it. Nevertheless, PGP refuses to drop their lawsuit against the FrostBack they consider responsible for hacking their system and altering their source code so that new versions of PGP installed on Canadian systems have a default comment line of "Cindy Cohn has a great ass!" ----- The Bienfait Nutly News is in no way connected to the Left Nutly News or the Right Nutly News. We prefer to remain in the middle, in the tradition of our founder, Dick Richard. -----

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The Eighth Word You Can't Say On The Internet
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Armies Gather by Jeff Elliott The most surprising place where anti-abortion provisions have appeared, however, was in the mammoth Telecommunications Deregulation Bill. Late in the day of January 30th, Colorado Representative Pat Schroeder made an unpleasant discovery: a last-minute addition appeared to make it a crime to discuss abortion on the Internet. The Telcom Bill already had the controversial "Communications Decency Act" that made it a felony to mention the seven dirty words forbidden on radio or TV; that was well known, and much discussed in both the House and the Senate. But this abortion clause was new, and would make "abortion" the eighth word banned from cyberspace. The ACLU and 19 other organizations filed for a temporary restraining order on the same day that Clinton signed the bill. But while the federal judge ruled, the vague "indecency" provisions were probably unconstitutional and should be heard by a special 3-judge panel, the restraining order on the abortion section was denied. Schroeder and others are trying to repeal the ancient law behind these restrictions, but passage in the rightward-tilted House is far from certain.

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No Subject
by Kevin Mahoney 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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G8 action plan on online anonymity?
by ulf＠fitug.de 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Apparently restrictions on online anonymity have been discussed at the meeting of the Justice and Interior Ministers of the G8 in Washington, Dec 8--12, 1997 on "high-tech and organized crime". >From Janet Reno's press release <URL: http://www.usdoj.dov/opa/pr/1997/December97/518cr.html>: "each nation has committed to develop faster ways to trace attacks coming through computer networks, so that we can quickly identify the hacker or criminal who is responsible." What are these fast ways to trace attacks? Did the ministers also discuss anonymous speech? Anyone have the full text of the declaration and the action plan?

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You've got to save room for desert...
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Takes 18 bee hummingbirds to weigh as much as a shot of whiskey. ============================================== LMBoyd Web Site / U. S. Newspapers / Start Email / Stop Email http://www.LMBoyd.com/postscript.htm

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They don't need no stinking privacy!
by A. Sheeple 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

An Open Letter To The CypherPunks: Due to the large amounts of ridicule heaped upon the Sheeple family by members of the CypherPunks list, I have decided to write to the list to clarify a few of the issues on which our family's stances are apparently misunderstood by people outside the pen. First of all, we are AdamAnt about retaining our right to privacy, but we recognize the need for the authorities to invade other people's right to privacy, in order to protect us from them. We demand our right to a fair and impartial trial before a jury of our peers, but we recognized the need for law enforcement agencies and the justice system to take whatever steps are needed to make certain that others are convicted in accordance with the desires of the majority of their betters, according to the results of the Sheeple polls taken by CNN and People's Court. (Note: We, the Sheeple, are willing to do our part, and look the other way when those responsible for our protection need to stretch the boundaries of belief by claiming that a black wife-beater is not a suspect in the murder of his wife and her white lover, as they climb over a fence onto his private property, without a warrant, saying, "We're white men from the government, and we're here to help a Black-Afro American.] We wish to exercise our right to have security in our private communications by employing strong cryptography, but we also recognize the need for our government to intercept communications by foreigners, in order to protect us and to manipulate world events in a manner that will keep the price of our TV's as low as possible. We wish to exercise our right to free speech, but we recognize the need of authorities to prevent filth and vermin from using disgusting and perverted language such as, "Baah...Baah...", instead of righteous and politically correct language such as "Baaa...Baaa." In short, or position is that we wish to retain all of our rights and freedoms, but support them being compromised or taken away from others, for the good of the Sheeple. A. Sheeple

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fight back at SPAM!
by nobody＠nsm.htp.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I received some annoying spam today. Unbelievably, they included a 1-800 number. Since they wasted my time, I thought I'd call them up and waste their time (on their nickel!). I got a recording asking me to leave a message. I then called back and it stated that this was my last call for the day. Apparently they only accept two phone calls from each distinct phone number. The phone number is 1-800-338-6150 if anyone else feels like calling them up and tying up their phone line. I'm not going to mention what they're selling, since that would be doing them a favor. Maybe when they get their phone bill they will realize the problems associated with direct email marketing on the Internet. ;-) If a honest-to-goodness live person answers, just talk to 'em and try to keep them on the line as long as possible. Ask questions about their product, etc. The longer they talk to you, the more it costs them! You get the picture! Enjoy!

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The Rapist from the Internet Chat Room
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Alleged `Cybersex' Victim Testifies By SAMUEL MAULL, Associated Press Writer NEW YORK -- A woman who says a graduate student she met online tied her up and raped her in his apartment tearfully described for jurors how she begged, "Don't rape me, don't dismember me, don't kill me" before escaping. In emotional testimony Tuesday, the 22 -year-old woman said she managed to untie herself from a futon, fight off her assailant and flee. "I was sore. I was exhausted. I didn't want to move," she said, then describing how she loosed the cloth strips: "I felt so good! I got it undone and I stood up! I got it undone! I looked at him and he looked frightened! I'm not going to die!" The witness, who said she was naked while tied up, said she grabbed her clothes and got dressed while running for the door and fighting off the man who had held her as a sex captive for more than 20 hours. "He tried to catch me," she said. "I just kept fighting. I wouldn't let him get any part of me. I ran to the door and clenched the handle because I was not going to be tied up again." The woman says her tormentor was Oliver Jovanovic, 31, a Columbia University doctoral candidate in molecular biology whom she met in an Internet chat room. Jovanovic is charged with kidnapping, sodomy, aggravated sex abuse and assault against the woman in his apartment following their first date Nov. 22, 1996. The woman said Jovanovic had tied her up, dripped hot candle wax on her abdomen and genital area, bit her breasts until they bled and used a nightstick to sexually abuse her. The woman said Jovanovic attacked her after a discussion about good and evil and became upset when she said she believes people are not inherently evil. He then ordered her to undress, she said. Defense lawyer Jack Litman said no violence occurred between the two and that any sexual activity, while it might have been unusual, was consensual. He quoted from e-mail messages sent by the woman to Jovanovic before and after their date in which she talks about sadomasochism in what appear to be terms of approval. The e-mail messages the woman sent to Jovanovic included one that reads "Rough is good," and another that reads "I would go through the pleasure of hell's pain." The woman testified that she sought out Jovanovic because she thought he was intelligent, knowledgeable and interesting. Litman called the woman unstable and overly imaginative. He said she is blaming the evening's activity on Jovanovic to absolve herself of something she likes but considers dirty.

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