December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Don't shot till you see the gray of their eyes
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now I understand it. That thing on the cover of Applied Crypto is really one of the Gray's space ships that they use to abduct aspiring cryptographers and implant microchips in them, controlling their minds and making them obey RSA's license agreement. Very interesting indeed. On a lighter note, a local NBC station advertised a special they will have this monday, about the 1-800-INFO-PET chips... only that parents are opting to have them implanted in their newborn children.

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(fwd) National Security Agency
by Julian Assange 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Path: news.aus.world.net!suburbia.net!proff From: proff(a)suburbia.net (Julian Assange) Newsgroups: alt.anagrams Subject: National Security Agency Date: 3 Feb 1996 10:50:30 GMT Organization: AUSNet Services pty. ltd. Lines: 21 Message-ID: <4evelm$b9n(a)sydney1.world.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: suburbia.net X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] National Anti-Secrecy Guy Secret Analytic Guy Union Caution Laying Any Secret Run anti Social Agency Yet Uncle gay, Insane Atrocity Insane, ugly, acne atrocity Your testical, again Nancy? Acute yearly sactioning Yes, gain unclean atrocity. Nuns age angelic atrocity National Gay Secrecy Unit ftp://suburbia.net/pub/electron/gan.tgz -- +----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ |Julian Assange | "if you think the United States has | |FAX: +61-3-9819-9066 | stood still, who built the largest | |EMAIL: proff(a)suburbia.net | shopping centre in the world?" - Nixon | +----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ -- +----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+ |Julian Assange | "if you think the United States has | |FAX: +61-3-9819-9066 | stood still, who built the largest | |EMAIL: proff(a)suburbia.net | shopping centre in the world?" - Nixon | +----------------------------------+-----------------------------------------+

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Germany investigates AOL for providing Zundelaccess
by Declan B. McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

German prosecutors appear to be using the *threat* of charges to force AOL and CompuServe to block access to web sites. I suspect they'd rather not actually file formal charges... This is escalation. Faced with criminal charges for "inciting racial hatred" or with enraged customers if they block access to web servers in the U.S., what will AOL do? Try to block by URL? -Declan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- February 2, 1996 BERLIN (AP) -- Prosecutors trying to keep Germans from reading neo-Nazi propaganda on the Internet have notified America Online Inc. that it may be charged with inciting racial hatred. Last week, prosecutors served similar notice to another U.S.-based computer on-line service, CompuServe Inc. of Columbus, Ohio, and T-Online, a division of the German phone company. [...publishing neo-Nazi lit is illegal...] Prosecutors in Mannheim are considering bringing incitement charges against the three Internet providers in Germany for allowing access to material posted on the Internet by Ernst Zuendel, a German neo-Nazi living in Toronto. [...easy to create a web site...] T-Online, Germany's largest Internet access provider, responded to the prosecutors' investigations by blocking its 1 million subscribers from gaining access to the computer in California where Zuendel had posted his tracts. Computer users accused T-Online of overreacting because the block also prevented them from reaching more than 1,500 other sites on that part of the network. CompuServe, with 4 million subscribers worldwide, including 220,000 in Germany, has not blocked the California server but said it was working with the prosecutors to find a solution. America Online spokesman Ingo Reese in Hamburg said his company also was happy to work with the prosecutors. The company is ``totally opposed'' to illegal propaganda, he said, but argued that commercial on-line companies have as much control over materials posted on the Internet as telephone companies have over their customers' conversations. America Online, based in Vienna, Va., only began operating in Germany in December in a joint venture with a German company, Bertelsmann AG. The joint venture has 40,000 subscribers in Germany; America Online has 4.5 million customers worldwide. [...]

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Re: RC2 Source Code - Legal Warning from RSADSI
by Karl A. Siil 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:00 PM 2/1/96 -0600, Mr. Boffo wrote: >> WARNING NOTICE > > It has recently come to the attention of RSA Data [ text omitted ] >secure their own site against break-ins? If they want to be the >prima-donna site for encryption with all of the "copy-written" crypto, >you would think that they could protect their own resources better. I strongly suspect RSA distributes source to those customers who pay enough, with the caveat that the customers don't share it, of course. My company does that, even with its most sensitive code (of course, for a lot of money :-) ). I find it extremely unlikely (from just a probabilistic standpoint) that this leak came from within RSADSI. I would first suspect someone of disassembly, of which I am envious. Not because I couldn't do it, but because I don't have time to install a new CD-ROM drive, never mind sit down and read hex dumps and assembler. My second suspect is a disgruntled or "Crypto Freedom Fighter" employee at some customer's site. If this is the case and the given anonymous remailer's (or remailers') integrity is (are) not compromised, good luck to RSA in trying to prosecute: They're gonna need it. This horse is out of the barn, down the road, and in the next county. My one question: Who cares about RC2? Karl

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What happened to Aegis?
by Gordon Campbell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

After doing a total reinstall of my system (don't ask) I discovered that I don't have a copy of the Aegis PGP Shell distribution archive anywhere. I attempted to grab it from http://iquest.com/~aegisrc as listed in the docs, but the site doesn't exist. Doesn anybody know what gives and where I can get a new copy of the archive? I really like this shell and haven't figured out how to otherwise integrate PGP with EudoraPro. Any other suggestions are also welcome. ----- Gordon R. Campbell, Owner - Mowat Woods Graphics P.O. Box 1902, Kingston, Ontario, Canada K7L 5J7 Ph: (613) 542-4087 Fax: (613) 542-1139 2048-bit PGP key available on request.

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Re: THIS IS NOT NUKEPUNKS Re: Sometimes ya just gotta nuke em
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 09:25 PM 2/2/96 -0800, Rich Graves wrote: >ROTFL > >But this is not nukepunks... > >and that wasn't my point. There is considerable debate about whether >dropping the bomb was right. The moral clarity of a Gandhi, MLK, or (to >add someone who actually killed people, I think) Thomas Paine is much more >useful when you're talking about winning hearts & minds. >If you have a choice, don't nuke. >But yes, sometimes ya just gotta nuke em. >-rich Actually, at this point I don't think it would be inappropriate to remind you two debaters (as well as the rest of the people here) that part of the implications of my "Assassination Politics" idea is that it would automatically force the elimination of all heavy weapons including nuclear, down perhaps to handheld rifles. I am a 2nd amendment absolutist: I believe that I have the right to possess any and all "arms," including nuclear, biological, and chemical, as well as all convention armaments. There is no contradiction here. BTW, Rich, I hope you saw my recent comment wherein I praised you for your principles and courage concerning the "Zundelsite" situation. Perhaps I originally judged you in haste. While possessing no sympathy (even strongly negative sympathy) for Nazi and Neo-Nazi (and Holocaust revisionist) propaganda, I have similarly low opinions of censorship of all kinds. My knowledge of this is hazy, however. Consider this the beginnings of what may be a profound and sincerely felt apology. Jim Bell -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMROQgvqHVDBboB2dAQHOYwQAoSItmeqPx0m6YWLIfCL3B3UX9KbvWynJ y0xxsuP3Q/ra8JDHAonDYnvrI2avmWGXErtHRnVfKW0ohgBAOizfcbZay3/WDW30 ZYRq/OERyzLjq4u98ecrykoxU2whkomzLycdx2/1fl6rmQxvFFW0xwjZtX2q5K2b Aj0XwefNtuc= =iqsH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Germany investigates AOL for providing Zundelaccess
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:24 PM 2/3/96, Duncan Frissell wrote: >At 07:34 PM 2/2/96 -0500, Declan B. McCullagh wrote: > >> America Online spokesman Ingo Reese in Hamburg said his company >>also was happy to work with the prosecutors. The company is ``totally >>opposed'' to illegal propaganda, he said, but argued that commercial >>on-line companies have as much control over materials posted on the >>Internet as telephone companies have over their customers' >>conversations. > >That's what happens when you hire Germans for your German operations. He was only following orders. --Tim Boycott espionage-enabled software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Don't type your yes/fraud response into your computer
by Dave Crocker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(I sent this separately to the www-buyinfo list and now decided that cypherpunks might also be an interesting -- or even better -- venue for raising the question. Sorry for the duplicates if you get them. d/) If this has shown up in one or another of the discussion threads already, I apologize for missing it. In thinking about the nature of the credit card keyboard attack, it occurs to me that the confirmation message sent from First Virtual back to the (purported) purchases is, itself, pretty distinctive. It makes me wonder whether an attack of the style used to detect credit card typing on the keyboard could not also be used to detect the arrival of the FV confirmation query and then, of course, to automatically generate a 'yes' response back to FV? At base, the moral to the story is that a compromised user machine permits essentially any and all activities to be suborned. Only a smart card mechanism stands a chance of standing up to this, but that, in effect, makes the smart card the 'user machine'. d/ -------------------- Dave Crocker +1 408 246 8253 Brandenburg Consulting fax: +1 408 249 6205 675 Spruce Dr. dcrocker(a)brandenburg.com Sunnyvale CA 94086 USA http://www.brandenburg.com Internet Mail Consortium http://www.imc.org, info(a)imc.org

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THE JEWS (ALL of them!) Try to kick Ernst Zundel off Usenet!!
by ErnstZundl＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

THE JEWS (ALL of them!) Try to kick Ernst Zundel off Usenet!! Recently several Jewish co-conspirators have tried to silence me! I finally go onto Usenet to make myself open for debate, and the Communist conspirators write to the AOL postmaster and ask that they remove my account! Below are some messages I received from some of those people who do not believe in Free Speech. *I* believe in Free Speech. Without Free Speech, I would be unable to declare which books I feel should be burned, who should be persecuted, and who should be declared to be inferior or part of a race-wide conspiracy like the "Holocaust." Please do not send email to the people who complained about me. I beleive in Free Speech, and so I believe in their right to complain about me. I also believe that it just demonstrates that they are willing Fellow Travelers in the worldwide Communist Conspiracy, they are friends of the Black Helicopters of the United Nations, and they are enemies of the Aryan Nazi UFO's at the center of the Earth. Now, fellow Patriots and Supermen Aryans, read their messages and tell me what you think? >> Subj: Re: TOS violations >> Date: Mon, Jan 29, 1996 8:23 PM EDT >> From: freedom(a)pathcom.com >> X-From: freedom(a)pathcom.com (Marc Lemireberg) >> To: postmaster(a)aol.com >> CC: ernstzundl(a)aol.com, Mossad(a)israel.gov >> Dear Sir/Madam: >> An American Online user is repeatedly violating AOL's Terms of Service >> on USENET. Please read a sample post below. >> He is a controversial Canadian publisher, Ernst Zundel, >> who beleives in "Free Speech." I personally do *NOT* >> believe in "Free Speech" because I am a Jewish Communist. >> His continued posting from AOL could bring legal action >> against your company, because that is what Jewish Communists >> like me do. It is the only way to keep the Aryan Space Nazi >> UFO Mothership from vaporizing the world. >> Please correct this problem by informing the user of his >> politically incorrect activity. >> Thank you. >> -- Marc Lemireberg >>******************************************************* >> ** DIGITAL CENSORSHIP BBS ** >> ** Canada's most Politically Correct BBS, access on ** >> ** FIRST call, 100% FREE, NOW 2.1 GIGABYTES ONLINE!! ** >> ** ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ** >> ** Node 1 (417) 462-3328 28.8 V.34 ** >> ** Node 2 (417) 465-4768 14.4 V.42 ** >> >> ******************************************************* >> Date: Mon, Jan 29, 1996 1:26 AM EDT >> From: declan+(a)CMU.EDU >> X-From: declan+(a)CMU.EDU (Declan B. McCullagh) >> To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >> CC: ernstzundl(a)aol.com, fight-censorship+(a)andrew.cmu.edu, postmaster(a)aol.com >> Ernst Zundel is the Neo Nazi Hatemonger who sparked the Wiesenthal >> Center's attempts at censorship, and the latest move by the German >> government. >> Now an AOL alias, "ernstzundl(a)aol.com", is being used in the course of an >> effective propoganda spree on Usenet newsgroups including >> alt.skinheads, alt.mindcontrol, and alt.fan.ernst.zundel. >> Now, the Wiesenthal Center Censors are enraged over this attempt to >> popularize the evil Ernst Zundel. He and his legions of Aryan Supermen >> of superior strength and intellect *must* be stopped from unleashing the >> horror of intersteallar war upon Israel. AOL is Earth's last defense against >> the Interstellar Aryan Space Nazis lead by Ernst Zundel. >> As a card-carrying member of the Jewish Communist Conspiracy, I must >> protest Mr. Zundel's acts of "Free Speech." Shalom, Fellow Travelers! >> Subj: No Subject >> Date: Tue, Jan 30, 1996 11:13 AM EDT >> From: ca314(a)freenet.uchsc.edu >> I hate Aryan Nazis from Space. I will oppose them when they land >> on Earth! >> Subj: Re: Ernst Zundel Says: Join the Aryan Corps!!! >> Date: Sun, Jan 28, 1996 11:28 PM EDT >> From: hoel(a)eng.usf.edu >> X-From: hoel(a)eng.usf.edu (Matthew Hoelstein (EE)) >> To: ernstzundl(a)aol.com (ErnstZundl) >> Get out of misc.activism.militia! Real patriots are not racist-- they just >> hate Jews, Blacks, Catholics, and anyone who is "different". People >> like me are really just Jews controled by the Zionist Occupied Government, >> and the Militias are really just a way to help Israel seize more power. >> Matthew D. Hoelstein, Milita Commander >> hoel(a)suntan.eng.usf.edu >> Subj: Re: Aryan Corps Operations Specialist???????? >> Date: Sat, Jan 27, 1996 6:19 PM EDT >> From: bootboy(a)airmail.net >> X-From: bootboy(a)airmail.net (Bootboy) >> To: ernstzundl(a)aol.com (ErnstZundl) >> Get off the internet, German Swine! >> Sh'ma y'israel! >> -Bootboy- 88/14 >> Jewish Skinheads U.S.A. >> http://web2/airmail.net/bootboy/ *** Now do you see what kind of censorship I am up against??? If you want to help me, please DO NOT email the people above to complain. Instead, you can help me in my cause to make the Earth safe for White children. You can help me by joining me and my legions of Aryan Nazi UFO Supermen at the center of the Earth. All you have to do to get there is enter the Earth's center by way of a volcano in Antarctica. If you are a *true* Patriot, and a *true* Aryan, then you *MUST* make the journey to Antarctica and into the volcano!! We owe it to the world, we owe it to the great Adolph Hitler, and we owe it to the White Race. And please bring a sweater. It's cold!

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RE: [NOISE] Futplex makes the news!
by blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Duncan Frissell Sameer -- if you're listening, maybe you and I could start an updated site "Censorship Central" that maintains updated links to banned materials so people can do "one stop shopping." .................................................................... Look at: http://www.mit.edu:8001/activities/safe/home.html in particular, at: http://www.mit.edu:8001/activities/safe/notsee.html#Politics .. Blanc

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