December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: "Scruffies" vs. "Neats"
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"tcmay(a)got.net" 30-APR-1996 19:30:55.47 >More recently, the scruffies have embraced neural nets, emergent >computation, stochastic computing, genetic algorithms, and similar >buzzwords. The recent work on "subsumption architectures" (a la Brooks) and >agent architectures is consistent with viewpoint (though elements of logic >are of course involved). One interesting phenomenon is the in-migration of neats into formerly scruffy-only domains. For instance, take a look at the third, fourth, and fifth international conference proceedings on genetic algorithms. You've got scruffies who are just doing what feels right and seeing if it works (my viewpoint) and mathematicians/neats who are trying to derive what _should_ work the best. (Of course, there is the problem with the neat approach that it tends to oversimplify. For instance, many neat-variety equations for genetic algorithms, such as the original version of the Schema Theorem, don't take into account differing types of mutations - from a "don't care" symbol to a 0 or 1 is less of a change from a 0 to a 1.) I will be interested in seeing the more final version of this essay. -Allen

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Re: Former CIA Director and *Strategic Investment* Editor
by rbersten＠ia.com.au 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Has anyone else seen the extraordinarily tasteless press release sent out by Roadshow New media about this? Let me show you: MEDIA RELEASE 30/4/96 Where is William Colby? Rescuers are searching for the former head of the CIA, William Colby, after his mysterious disappearance yesterday. The canoe he had been using was found capsized and abandoned, near his Maryland home. Ironically, Colby's disappearance co-incides with the current release of Spycraft, the CD-ROM game developed with former KGB Major general Oleg Kalugin. ... Is this a publicity stunt from the game's US manufacturer [Activision]? Were some of the secrets given away in the game just a little too close for comfort for the current heads of the CIA? Are the Russians involved? Is it just totally coincidental? Does the Spycraft game itself hold any answers? No doubt police will be looking to the game for clues and have not yet ruled out foul play. Colby and Kalugin both portray themselves within the game and it could prove that Colby solves his own mystery. Spycraft the game is a true-to-life espionage thriller that allows players to experience the danger and excitement of being a real spy caught in a deadly web of international intrigue. Every game element is taken from real-life experience of spymasters Colby and Kalugin. the high level involvement of these espionage experts required that the script be reviewed by the CIA for security clearance. This real life twist to the CD ROM game offers more intrigue for gamers. the Internet facility may provide a solution as players across the world ponder Colby's disappearance. [This is followed by contact details for Roadshow, which, for you non-Australians, is a big games distributor out here] *-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* + Rosanne Bersten (editor(a)ia.com.au) - Editor, internet.au magazine + + tel: +61 2 310 1433 * fax: +61 2 310 1315 * http://www.ia.com.au + *-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-*

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Re: no-cost DH?
by Ted Garrett 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: weidai(a)eskimo.com, cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Wed May 01 01:54:44 1996 It's true as far as I can tell... Cylink is giving away their passport gold SDK for free. You can send mail to pbolton(a)cylink.com for more information. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMYb8p81+l8EKBK5FAQFrbQf6A5b3apVHHVPVjmOVw3/7SugmYWCmPG1E k3CKhzgBoBldCdQmD0cf6s51yrayahXed+3iVNXvQC/y5l0dVzLY6hrge40NOfdz v7C3frGfMciIYXJs7BYVdv305E5SN9m0GWWepo+vpNVCOLyVuq+4b8kVxQ6XUvQT S1KFJm1Imxc0h9caTPkzflfBR8jO85ILbenlX8wDQZUUnYzMR47JRyXUyXZWX4Wn InQT0KLF0zqf85cMS5dx93wBKof2NJYNuvSXQz4VL7kfxepQUtQON9N7E1dgWXD8 VOUqQu1KArIySBhfMW4pthJR0kJxzu+nOzhEdm/xFoYaWTUb9BEa7g== =/8SM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: once again
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:02 PM 4/30/96 -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >I fully understand that Java is a general programming language and can >do I/O. However, "Safe" Java subsets, like the ones used for writing >applets or presumably the ones that would be needed for markets in CPU >cycles, do not do i/o. One could add i/o to the suite, but that would >be dangerous. If I were as worried about Java security as Perry is, I would still consider running Java (or C or C++) programs as part of certain markets in CPU cycles because I would trust their source. (IMHO, much better than trusting every web page I access.) A single example. I could see a network-wide factoring attack on the key NSA uses to GAK the extra bits in Lotus Notes. Such an effort would run a single program, which would be available in source. Depending on the details, I could either compile the program locally, or down load a signed copy of the object code/class file. The same argument applies to rendering e.g. Toy Story. This restriction does not provide for CPU cycle markets in arbitrary programs, but I think that a significant market could still develop under this limit. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: aufweidersehn, * grave$
by jamesd＠echeque.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Some anonymous illiterate racist socialist wrote: > Noticeable about capitali$t graves, he dissmisses EVERY attempt > to censor racists with a "who cares," "there just a bunch > of weinies," "if you can be heard *somewhere* without being > arrested, it's not censorship," etc. In defense of Rich, note that we libertarians accused him of being a socialist, and this anonymous socialist accuses him of being a capitalist. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Network Sex
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:50 PM 4/30/96 -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: >I was under the impression that sex involved physical presense. In her lecture for ee380 at Stanford, Lisa Palac was asked, Well, just how do you have sex on the net? Her answer indicated that essentially you talk dirty with your partner and masturbate. IMHO netsex eliminates the possibility of sexually transmitted disease. The abstract for her lecture (from http://www-leland.stanford.edu/class/ee380/) is: >Apr 3: Lisa Palac, Author: Sex and the Single Cyberchick > >Speaker: Lisa Palac, Author and Founding Editor, Future Sex Magazine > >Title: Sex and the Single Cyberchick > >Abstract > >This lectures discusses the ways computer technology is fundamentally >changing the sexual landscape. Facts and fictions about cybersex, the >moral panic over porn on the Internet and erotic liberation in the >digital domain. > >Biography > >Lisa Palac is the producer of the erotic virtual audio series >*Cyborgasm*, http://www.iuma.com/cyborgasm and the founding editor >of Future Sex magazine. She is currently writing on a book about sex >and popular culture titled, The Edge of the Bed. > Regards - Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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[Fwd: Cylink can export 128-bit DH?]
by peng-chiew low 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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[NOISE] Re: Freedom and security
by cpunk＠remail.ecafe.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Apr 30 1996 at 19:38:55, angels(a)wavenet.com wrote: > If it were permitted to kill those who disagreed with you, > then no one would be free to speak their mind at all, for fear > of the consequences. A person's freedom of speech is reduced by being afraid of the consequences of that speech. Likewise, a person's freedom of speech is improved by being less afraid of the consequences. Therefor, we can scrap the first amendment, and just drink plenty of beer.

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Re: Freedom and security
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:38 PM 4/30/96 -0700, CyberAngels Director : Colin Gabriel Hatcher wrote: > >Maybe you feel like a veterano and can afford to look condesendingly at all >the thousands of fresh-faced netizens just arriving online and say "well if >they can't take the heat they should stay out of the fire" - but if we are >to call ourselves an emerging "community" then we must take responsibility >for our city, and that means caring about other people's problems. > >The internet is not just a collection of bits and bytes - it's real people >doing real things to each other. > >When your address is forged and you get flamed and bombed, or if you start >receiving anonymous death threats, your freedom is under threat. It's not >enough to say "Well I just turn off my monitor" If these millions of the "Great Unwashed" managed to get *on* the Net in the first place without Fascist assistance, they can figure out how to survive there without Fascist assistance. DCF

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Re: [LONG] Churchill Club: 20th Anniversary PK Crypto
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Paul Raines, Project Manager, United States Postal Service described > ... The post office brings four things that private > industry can't: ... (2) ... well established reputation, ... > (4) it can act as a trusted third party. > >Oh. Well that's good to know. > > --MarkM I just report them like I hear them. They are priced higher than Verisign too. Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bill Frantz | The CDA means | Periwinkle -- Computer Consulting (408)356-8506 | lost jobs and | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | dead teenagers | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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