December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Guerilla Internet Service Providers
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 23:30 1/1/96, Andreas Bogk wrote: >So I guess we'll need some computers in outer space, on offshore boats >or in well-bribed stable dictatorships. o Outer space: not very realistic o Offshore boats: see the fate of drug trafficers in international waters after the Coast Guard is through with them. o Stable dictatorships: Not stable enough to withstand an humanitarian mission by the US Army. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Prevention Of Trauma 2 [NOISE]
by joee＠li.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Here's something scary to start your new year. . . ] << start of forwarded material >> ** Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 23:41:38 -0000 ** Reply-To: "POLI-PSY [ Political Science-Psychology/Psychiatry ]" ** <POLI-PSY(a)SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU> ** Sender: "POLI-PSY [ Political Science-Psychology/Psychiatry ]" ** <POLI-PSY(a)SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU> ** From: Michael Benjamin <pmhil(a)SHANI.NET> ** Subject: Prevention Of Trauma 2 ** X-To: Multiple recipients of list FORENSIC-PSYCHOLOGY ** <FORENSIC-PSYCHOLOGY(a)SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU>, ** Multiple recipients of list LEGALTEN ** <LEGALTEN(a)SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU>, ** Stress Traumatic <traumatic-stress(a)netcom.com> ** X-cc: Multiple recipients of list TRANSCULTURAL-PSYCHOLOGY ** <TRANSCULTURAL-PSYCHOLOGY(a)VM1.NoDak.EDU>, ** Traumatic Stress Forum <traumatic-stress(a)netcom.com> ** To: Multiple recipients of list POLI-PSY <POLI-PSY(a)SJUVM.STJOHNS.EDU> ** ** PREVENTION TRAUMA II ** ** In a previous letter I pointed out the need to eliminate ** trauma by prevention. I mentioned that there are generally Agencies ** whose function is to prevent trauma, if it is in industry, military, driving, ** etc. These agencies have criteria for excluding people who they feel ** are liable to mal-function and cause trauma (danger). Often these ** Agencies employ programs to reduced the likelihood of trauma. ** I pointed out that I feel it is legitimate to help these Agencies ** not in defining their criteria but in eliciting the given criteria by the use ** of the techniques which are used in a Diagnostic Setting. I emphasize ** that the presence or absence of these criteria are not indicative of any ** pathology. As such I feel that this discussion does not only belong in ** the field of Forensic Psychiatry but is a legitimate form of treating ** trauma, i.e. prevention. ** In the field of Road Safety in Israel the Institute for Road ** Safety is a medical institute which advises on likelihood of a driver to ** be dangerous. ** The examination is carried out on all applicants for a Public ** License (taxi, autobus), heavy vehicle drivers, and drivers involved in ** fatal accidents, and drivers or prospective drivers who have had ** contact with Mental Health Care. Generally the exams are given by ** Psychologists and are based partially on the M.M.P.I. and a clinical ** examination. More difficult cases are referred to Consultant ** Psychiatrists and an Ad-Hoc Committee. ** The criteria under discussion are mainly:- Concentration, ** Attention, Projectivity, Judgment, Consistency, Reality Jesting, Ability ** to identify , Confirm with instructions, Impulsivity and Control over ** Impulsivity. ** Over the years we have found these to be of primary ** importance and we thus concentrate on illnesses or personality ** disturbance where these criteria may well occur. ** If these indications are discovered we check if they are ** causing driving delinquency. If so, we then determine if there is a ** reasonable likelihood of the patient / examinee being made to ** understand and correct himself. Obviously in some instances this is of ** little likelihood. If these indications are present or applying for a new ** license, the application is rejected. If we allow a "trial" period, the ** position is first explained to the examinee, and we try and ascertain if it ** at all possible that he both understands and is able of "changing his ** ways". ** In addition to the "meeting point" between Forensic ** Psychiatry and "Preventive" Traumatology we feel that we are on the ** delicate meeting point of "Personal Rights" and Societies "Right to ** defend itself". ** We are under perpetual scrutiny, which I feel is justified and ** healthy. I would very much enjoy any comments or suggestions. ** ** ** Michael. << end of forwarded material >> j. ercole <joee(a)li.net> ny, usa pgp public key at: http://www.li.net/~joee/index.html $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$********************&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Stand By---.sig presently being unearthed in regression therapy.

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CSPAN Currency Creation Hearings
by Wink Junior 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dave Feustel <feustel(a)netcom.com> on talk.politics.crypto mentioned that on Saturday morning CSPAN was broadcasting congressional hearings on "currency creation, during which smartcards, Ecash, encryption, privacy and government regulation of all of the above were discussed." There's supposed to be at least one rebroadcast. A brief review of the highlights would be very interesting. Wink -- winkjr(a)teleport.com

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Re: CSPAN Currency Creation Hearings
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 19:04 1/1/96, Brad Dolan wrote: >I caught part of it. > >The general theme was,~"we're going to establish a `partnership' with >digicash / crypto firms to ensure that our `legitimate law-enforcement >needs' are designed into the products."~ I sincerely doubt that there will be any 'partnerships' between DigiCash and law enforcement. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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[local] Syracuse new york
by Douglas F. Elznic 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Are their any interested people in having a meeting in the syr area?

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Guerilla ISP's...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Has anyone looked at operating systems like Plan 9 which divide the services into 3 sets (terminal, file, process) and then distribute them over various machines (and cpu's in multi-cpu systems) on a 'cost' basis? This would effectively address the issue of where named, httpd, or whatever was running. Mainly because it would never run on the same machine (or cpu) each time or necessarily all the time (ie run a while here then over there).

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Re: Guerilla ISP's...
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 20:19 1/1/96, Jim Choate wrote: >Has anyone looked at operating systems like Plan 9 which divide the services >into 3 sets (terminal, file, process) and then distribute them over various >machines (and cpu's in multi-cpu systems) on a 'cost' basis? > >This would effectively address the issue of where named, httpd, or whatever >was running. Mainly because it would never run on the same machine (or cpu) >each time or necessarily all the time (ie run a while here then over there). That is called a conspiracy. The consequence is that all machines involved will be confiscated and their respective owners jailed. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Re: Guerilla ISP's... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 18:49:28 -0800 > From: shamrock(a)netcom.com (Lucky Green) > Subject: Re: Guerilla ISP's... > > At 20:19 1/1/96, Jim Choate wrote: > >Has anyone looked at operating systems like Plan 9 which divide the services > >into 3 sets (terminal, file, process) and then distribute them over various > >machines (and cpu's in multi-cpu systems) on a 'cost' basis? > > > >This would effectively address the issue of where named, httpd, or whatever > >was running. Mainly because it would never run on the same machine (or cpu) > >each time or necessarily all the time (ie run a while here then over there). > > That is called a conspiracy. The consequence is that all machines involved > will be confiscated and their respective owners jailed. > Wow, you mean you can prosecute an operating system?

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Paperclip original posting?
by David K. Merriman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

could someone kindly forward me a copy of the original paperclip symbology posting? Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------- "It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the Government from falling into error." Robert H. Jackson (1892-1954), U.S. Judge <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> My web page: http://www.geopages.com/CapitolHill/1148

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Guerilla Internet Service Providers
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:18 PM 12/30/95, Lucky Green wrote: >At best, Cypherpunks can hope to provide the infrastructure that will allow >an underground to communicate semi-securely. We are unable to stop the >global tidal wave of fascism. Let's not waste our time on bemoaning the >freedoms crushed in its path. We have more important work to do. And support your local ISPs! (Or, even better, direct connection to the Net, though this is harder for most of us to arrange.) This CompuServe situation should be a great recruiting opportunity. Cypherpunks in various parts of the country (and outside the U.S.) can get active in local AOL, Prodigy, and Compuserve groups (and maybe even Netcom chat groups, as Netcom is large enough to be a ripe target for harassment by some zealous prosecutor or tort-crazed lawyer, as the Church of Scientology case showed). They can tell the folks about local alternatives. Having lots of small, decentralized providers makes censoring the Net all the harder. Guerilla Internet Service Providers. (I'm not disparaging Netcom. Tom Klemesrud not only fought the CoS, he has also spoken out against CompuServe's action. I just understand that the "deep pockets" effect means that any ISP large enough to register on the radar screens of the statists will be targetted for regulation and sanctioning. Better to have a thousand services, melting into the jungle when the heavy artillery arrives.) --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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