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17 Dec '03

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state power in cyberspace convention
by Vladimir Z. Nuri 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

------- Forwarded Message Date: Fri, 15 Aug 1997 10:51:09 -0400 From: Kris Millegan RoadsEnd <RoadsEnd(a)AOL.COM> Subject: Fwd: ciadrugs] (fwd) The Great Whites Are Worried About the Net To: CTRL(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM - --------------------- Forwarded message: From: Rickie.A.Slater(a)Dartmouth.EDU (Rickie A. Slate) Reply-to: ciadrugs(a)mars.galstar.com (The ciadrugs mailing lis) To: ciadrugs(a)mars.galstar.com Date: 97-08-15 10:24:31 EDT This is slightly off topic to drugs but relevant to the impact the network media (like mailing lists) is having on politics. A 2nd message by Katz will follow. - --- Forwarded Message --- From: HotWired by Jon Katz 4 Aug 97 A letter arrived last week inviting me to a 2-day conference called "The Information Revolution: Impact on the Foundations of National Power," to be held 24-25 Sept. outside Chicago. "On the threshold of the information age," reads the invitation from the Washington-based Center for Strategic & International Studies, "many of the traditional measures of national power appear under challenge." This stood out immediately from the stack of junk mail piling up on my kitchen table. The CSIS is a powerhouse military/national-security think tank whose board members are listed on its imposing letterhead and include Henry Kissinger, Zbigniew Brzezinski, Sam Nunn, James R. Schlesinger, Brent Scowcroft, Harold Brown, Carla A. Hills, and R. James Woolsey. For those unfamiliar with these names, they include former national-security advisors, secretaries of state, secretaries of defense, US senators, and other cabinet secretaries. [And all current members of the Council on Foreign Relations - except for Sam Nunn - according to *The Insiders: Architects of the New World Order* (Poster)] The ambitious focus of this conference, said the invitation, "will be to examine the impact of the information revolution on economic, knowledge-oriented, social, and cultural foundations of national power." It seemed the foundation was offering to fly me and 45 others to Chicago, and to provide hotel accommodations, meals, and transportation to the foundation's private conference center. Anyone who doubts that the digital age is sending shock waves through the most powerful elements in American business, politics, and journalism ought to read the panel topics, along with the guest list. That I am on the list of "invitees" is both a shock and a mortification. The overall context for the conference, the invitation explains, is the way the information revolution is putting stress on the fundamentals of national power. There's some "context," too, about the nature of social revolutions - the eventual winners and losers. For all our cyber-chatting, it's a shock to see these Great Whites preparing to convene to talk so nakedly about national political power and the digital culture, and even more of a shock to realize that many of our ravings - about how rattled the power structure is by the liberation of so much information - are actually truer than we even know. This group will have five panels: First, there's "Economic Might as an Element of National Power," to explore how the task of generating robust economic resources for the citizenry and government are being challenged by the forces of globalization and internationalization. "How," asks the letter, "does the information revolution affect a nation-state's ability to marshall and control its economic resources in support of its leaders' and peoples' objectives?" And "What are the working and theoretical models that promise the most success in adjusting national economic power to the realities of the information revolution?" And you thought you were just downloading cool software or browsing neat new sites. The second panel topic, "Knowledge Acquisition as an Element of National Power," addresses what $E3is the most effective mechanism for addressing the task of strengthening national power through the cumulative acquisition of knowledge by a nation-state$E2s citizens and institutions?$E4 Panel three is $E3Civic Dynamics as an Element of National Power.$E4 The description for this panel says the information revolution $E3has been forecast to usher in a new age of mankind, fundamentally changing civic structures and roles by impacting the nature of work, the bonding of groups and individuals, and the role of the citizen.$E4 The description adds: $E3The societal transition results from the industrial revolution was accompanied by a transition to a set of nation-state mechanisms for domestic and international relations. Can we expect another tectonic shift in civic structure and national mechanisms as a result of the information revolution?$E4 Panel four addresses the subject of $E3Cultural Identify as an Element of National Power.$E4 Culture has served to bind people across generations, says the brochure, but the $E3information revolution delivers culture to any people at any place. What is the future role of culture as a cohesive binding force between peoples who are located and/or share a common interest? Can ethnocentric culturalization withstand the homogenizing battering ram of the information revolution? How do a people balance the enriching and eroding effects of the information revolution on their own unique culture?$E4 The last panel is entitled $E3Rethinking National Power in an Information-rich World.$E4 The information revolution, says the CSIS, $E3appears, in at least some cases, to have fundamentally altered the state$E2s conception of, and ability to exercise, national power. The rise of new, nonsovereign authorities and global forces suggest that the traditional equation of national power will continue to change; others, however, insist that classical conceptions of power will remain valid, the information revolution causing only marginal changes.$E4 Each panel, says the invitation, will be accompanied by an academic paper to help $E3focus$E4 discussion. Wow, I thought, while reading over the topics. These people are disturbingly smart, if clunky panel-topic writers. They$E2ve fully grasped what hasn$E2t yet occurred to William Bennet or The New York Times or Bill Clinton or Al Gore - that the rise of the digital age has little to do with pornography, stolen term papers, or email-addicted students. It has to do with raw power - who gets, defines, and controls it, and for what purpose. The CS IS board cares much about this. Its members comprise a blue-ribbon list of what used to be called the military-industrial complex. That it would convene all these interested parties, fly them to Chicago from all over the country and world, and stuff them with canapes (and entertainment and museum tours) at great expense is a striking affirmation of how seriously the Net and the Web are being taken in the real corridors of power. This letter read not so much like an invitation to talk abut the Net but an X-Files script mailed to the wrong address. I expect Cigarette Man will be sitting in the rear of the conference center, leering, puffing away, and smiling wryly at the attendee$E2s naive notions of how power really works. I won$E2t be there, though. In my next column, I$E2ll explain why and share the list of other $E3invitees.$E4 - ----------------------------------------------------- This article appeared originally in HotWired Copyright 1993-97 Wired Ventures, Inc. and Affiliated Companies. All rights reserved. - --- For list service help, send a message to ciadrugs-request(a)mars.galstar.com with a subject of HELP. ------- End of Forwarded Message

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Re: 'Friendly Fire' in Spam War Claims Victim
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Presidential Joke on The Tonight Show
by ThePres＠bonghits.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: state power in cyberspace convention
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Bladder Z. Neurotic wrote: > From: HotWired > by Jon Katz > A letter arrived last week inviting me to a 2-day conference called "The > Information Revolution: Impact on the Foundations of National Power," to be > held 24-25 Sept. outside Chicago. ... > For those unfamiliar with these names, they include former national-security > advisors, secretaries of state, secretaries of defense, US senators, and > other cabinet secretaries. > That I am on the list of "invitees" is both a shock and a mortification. > I won't be there, though. Jon, I think you should go to the conference. As a matter of fact I have already prepared a package I would like you to take along with you. It should be hand-carried on the plane so that it will not be bumped about during your flight. Details to follow. TruthBomber

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No Subject
by Alex le Heux 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Export rules
by Jim Ray 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 02:05 AM 8/15/97 -0700, Bill Stewart wrote: ... >Well, Raph Levien applied for an export permit for the RSA-in-4-lines-of-PERL >shirt several years ago, and the export thugs stalled on it and never >responded positively or negatively, in spite of their publicly stated >policies that they "will" respond in some small number of days. ... I wonder if it's possible/practical to do a FOIA request on Raph's old permit request and why it didn't merit action. As I recall, he even sent them a couple of the shirts. Then the export thugs could never- respond to the FOIA request, I guess. Someday, the news media might even notice that it's an interesting (and humorous) story. JMR -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Freedom isn't Freeh. iQEPAwUBM/YiLzUhsGSn1j2pAQHXTwfQ4Iwltxah6RzMhQ7T0ttNejtpwLYMdX/R nqzHvgvB/OrOpElnX7BBSUlt3kj8Evj39EaRAKbvRcXU7YagmQaRbMrZW7MD5cdT gMNBujRqEiNezi6iF3obxlQb7ZUDaCdFEscGSVq1pWacAVtJkZWUvUeKsuIs1374 X0DgdXAVMmw20JjS1An0ME17IwDyUnVsWAhgijUQmlWUMeS6WZnvfOmzClEJWTGn N919pcLzyWmL0ZGfjo5c8i2+eWCgTfY/oMBPa2TwChqAOIDuip1O1v3vHWgFpoJ7 ffXmwXOTw2yWZO5b511jQ3TLgY9UmZXYuvljndsYi1zxPA== =uVHt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: FCPUNX:McVeigh on McVeigh
by Wazoo MixMaster 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:27 PM 8/15/97 -0800, you wrote: > Amen!!! > More money was spent on McVeigh's defense than on O.J.'s prosecution. >For fifteen million dollars, McVeigh's lawyer couldn't be troubled to >raise his voice in his client's defense. Funny thing is, if O.J. was, say, a bus-driver with food stamps, how long do you think *his* trial would be? Besides, McVeigh's trial wasn't about truth or justice. It was all about getting revenge, drawing blood, satisfying the bloodthirsty people of America. > There are a handful of lawyers I respect as having the skill and the >integrity to properly defend me to the max, but I wouldn't give you two >cents for McVeigh's government-bought schill. McVeigh's lawyer was probably influenced (read: leaned on) by government fascists, so that McVeigh would die. > The role of McVeigh's attorney was to placate the American people's >sense of "justice" without rocking the boat. He didn't upset the >American people, he didn't upset the judge, the prosecutor, his golfing >buddies, or the court house restroom attendant. Very different from say, Atticus Finch, in "To Kill a Mockingbird". He defended a black man, in a place and time very against that. While this government controlled dickless loser that was McVeighs lawyer, didn't prosecute like a man, because then he'd be blacklisted and treated like shit. > He did upset me, however, and that might turn out to be a big mistake >on his part. If anyone out in this world feels like bumping off McVeighs lawyer, please do so. We need less lawyers like him.

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Reduce your long distance bills
by helledge＠oilfieldtrash.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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I'm writing this message to you in an effort to spread the truth about these fraudulent scam artists. I am a 60 year old, practicing international petroleum engineer and I supplement my income by working in the telecommunications industry. I have traveled to 58 countries and therefore have paid my share of high long distance calls. I have been around the block more than a few times, and I can tell you this: The best deal any average consumer is going to get in this country today is a 9.9 cent per minute flat rate, if you know where to go. Here is the reason why: Whenever a long distance call is placed, there are fees charged by your local telephone company, called "origination" fees, and fees charged by the receiver a local telephone company, called "landing" fees. These fees are regulated by the federal government. On average, the combined origination/landing fees are 6.5 to 7.5 cents per minute, depending on the telephone companies involved. In addition to those fees, the carrier that connects the call over long distances via fiber, copper, and/or satellite links carries a cost for that call of at least 1 cent, and sometimes more. This brings the COST for that call to 7.5 to 8.5 cents per minute. Then, there are the administrative costs associated with the calls in the form of "rating" the call data, "formatting" the calls in a logical manner to present them to the consumer (both processes are extremely computer intensive , AND postage, paper, and labor, in the form of customer service, and equipment maintenance. Conservatively, these costs add another .5 (one half) cent, bringing the true COST of a long distance telephone call to anywhere from 8 to 9 cents per minute. Finally, there is the cost of distribution, i.e.: marketing and advertising. The commercials that you see on television every day for the big carriers are not free to those companies. In fact, they spend millions of dollars every DAY to push their long distance service, which, remember, is costing THEM 8 to 9 cents per minute. When you see a commercial for Sprint, for example, make sure you watch the fine print. Their "dime line" only applies during evenings after 7pm, and during the weekend. Every weekday from 7am to 7pm the cost is 25 cents per minute. AT&T has taken a more honest approach recently with their "one rate", yet even they are still charging 15 cents per minute. MCI has so many plans now, you're lucky if you'll ever know how much you're paying for a long distance call until you look at your bill. (if you dare) Telecommunications "resellers" are the real wave of the future. These companies purchase transmission time from major carriers, and bill their customers themselves, while still providing the exact same service at a much lower cost. Their customers are still physically utilizing the major carriers for service, but simply receive their BILLS for their calls from the reseller or "rebiller". Since deregulation in 1984, the reseller industry has grown to over $12 BILLION per year, and industry experts predict that by the year 2000, the majority of telecommunications usage will be handled by resellers utilizing the major carriers. How can they do this? By being creative in their marketing approach, and keeping the cost of distribution down to an absolute minimum. The most cost-efficient way to market telecommunications is via an agent network, i.e.: individuals working for the reseller on a commission-only basis. The best rate any individual can receive today is through a reseller for a major carrier. I am a customer and agent for a company called FCI, which is a direct reseller for IXC Communications, Inc., the USA's 5th largest coast-to-coast fiber optic network. IXC currently provides 1000's of miles of fiber for AT&T, Sprint, MCI, and the federal government. FCI offers a flat rate 9.9 cent per minute rate for 1+ long distance AND 800 usage, and bills its customers in 6 second increments, instead of full minute increments like the big carriers do. This results in savings to consumers of an additional 10%-25%, depending on the types of calls placed. FCI is also nearly finished completing a "web page billing" system which will be a great benefit to the consumer, as they will be able to see the actual calls they place on a DAILY basis, as well as their cost for those calls. When in place, FCI will be the ONLY long distance company in the nation offering this unique service. The Wall Street journal, as well as the FOX News Channel, have recently featured FCI and their unique approach to the long distance market. FCI is a truly revolutionary company, and has been gaining acclaim across the nation and particularly on the internet. As a reseller, FCI has the right to work with other carriers if they are presented with better rates for their customers. FCI has recently chosen to work with ITL (International Telecom Ltd) for its superior international calling rates, such as the following flat rates per minute (US origination): U K .185 Russia .670 France .280 Greece .475 Israel .690 Japan .360 (this is not a typo!) China .810 For more information on FCI and how you can even earn a great residual income by promoting their service like I do, you may visit my FCI Web Page at: http://freedomstarr.com/?EL3544771. You will have the opportunity to sign up for service online, and get a free web page to promote the service, with an opportunity to earn up to 5% residual commissions on other people's usage. There is no "sign up" or "agent" fee to participate in the program. I hope this note finds you and yours in good health. Good luck and warm regards, Harold W. Elledge

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Re: (Fwd) FWD: Texas Driver's License database on the web
by miner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >>From: Brent Heustess <heustess(a)mail.utexas.edu> >> >> This is a really spooky web site <http://www.publiclink.com>. You can >>search 17 million Texas drivers by name, driver's license number or >>license plate number. When you find a person, you can then find everyone >>at that address with a license. You can even find everyone with the same >>9-digit zip code. The record does not have a GIF of the photo, but it >>has everything else on the license. > >Those who tell the government the actual address where they sleep at night >have no expectation of privacy. Most governments don't care if you >substitute an accomodation address. If you find a government that does >care, shop around until you find another that doesn't. I've been turned >down exactly once in my career when I attempted to use an accomodation >address for DMV purposes. I went elsewhere. > >DCF > There was an article in the WSJ about this recently, TX has passed a law that goes into effect Sept. 1ST that will make publiclink illegal, they said they would continue to run the site and see what happens in court. Don't remember the date of the article.

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