December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

RE: Cyber PsyOps (Re: Shot)
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Jeff Davis "Psychological Warfare is duofold. It harrases the enemy, and hopefully wins the hearts and minds of the population." And then all you have to do is maintain your control over the situation. Once you have persuaded everyone to come over to your psychological point of view and have won their sympathies, all you have to do is leave them to their own imagination and they will, like "herds", self-regulate and organize into a new paradigm of confluence according to the tribal provisions written into the Constitution by Thomas Jefferson, thus giving weight to progressive theory. Then for sure you would have a society based on consensual normalities, the horde for whom you would have prepared the way: aware, informed, and actively participating in your aim. Definitely, this would prove that Marbury v. Madison (1803) was a *not* a fuck up. The Libertarian platform would not reverse that decision, because the Constitution has provided amending provisions, and we can always rectify the errors of shortsightedness. I mean, the FOIA may be useless, but we *could* always sit here and read the damn thing. Psychological Warfare is truly the only way to compete with the NSA on this issue. Blanc

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alias in phone book
by Adam Lake 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I have recently been participating in a thread concerning anonymity and pseudonymity on the Internet. Somebody was complaining about trying to find somebody and they were logged in with an uncorrelatable alias. (Fishman = Don Johnson????) The person was asking for a rule that everyone log in with an alias that DIRECTLY correlated them with their "real world" (relative term) pseudo. Yuch!!!!! What I was wondering was if any of you law hacks out there new anything about the following comment regarding phone books A professor of communications has brought up the fact that it is illegal to use a pseudo in the white pages of the phone book. Is this the case? Help!!!! lake(a)uenics.evansville.edu ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Remember the last time you called her, she forgets Pray to her, she will remember that she will remember that ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Crypto, satellites, & China
by paul＠poboy.b17c.ingr.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- A story in the 3/14/94 issue of _Aviation Week_ reports that Hughes and Martin Marietta have satisfied the State Department and will now be able to launch the Optus B3 comsat. All the quotes below are from the article; it didn't have any detail on the cryptostuff. State had held up the launch because the Optus B3 payload included a "sensitive decryption chip". The USG made trade with China subject to the Missile Technology Control Regime (MTCR) after China was suspected of selling missiles to Pakistan. Hughes agreed to remove the chip, which "guards the satellite's steering commands"; once removed, State lifted the export restriction. "By removing the chip, authority for approving the launch was shifted to the Commerce Dept. from an interagency review commission headed by the State Dept. that had far less leeway to act." I never knew that encryption fell under MTCR in addition to ITAR. Presumably any crypto hardware or software which can be used to protect missile or satellite telemetry or commanding can be restricted. If anyone has more details on the MTCR and its application, I'd love to hear it. - -Paul Robichaux - -- Paul Robichaux, KD4JZG | Out the 10Base-T port, through the router, perobich(a)ingr.com | over the leased line, off the bridge, past Intergraph Federal Systems | the firewall... nothing but net. Of course I don't speak for Intergraph. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLamroCA78To+806NAQEK0wP/SD8692ZaMl71c57dSKAG7vmYVcyvIJi5 CNuWb4u3kL7WlfEtzrZ42Dfx4avgyzcjyoIyBDE5r+7n/nSMnbBGZGYR2OyTBQ5b GaK8RrrdJQoKujEvzR8i+XhtBin2doK5hzBHTY2VpYIexMH34MLZeYNST4nA7ek9 5EGWhbZ5mxw= =avDx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Prime Numbers
by Jeremy Cooper 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I found something interesting that I have not proven, but it has not failed yet: The integer N is prime if: 2^N - 2 --------- N is an integer. Don't ask how I found it, I was just fooling around. Now: Is there some way to reverse the formula so we can insert and integer and get a prime number out? Let me know, I am over excited. _ . _ ___ _ . _ ===-|)/\\/|V|/\/\ (_)/_\|_|\_/(_)/_\|_| Stop by for an excursion into the-=== ===-|)||| | |\/\/ mud.crl.com 8888 (_) Virtual Bay Area! -===

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Re: Banyan vine use by US Marine Corps...
by Jim Franklin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I don't know how I got onto this list, or many others to which I seem to suddenly belong, but I'd be eternally grateful if you removed me from this one. thanks, jim

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Re: Black Net
by Graham Toal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

: Does anyone actually believe Blacknet exists this is about the umpteenth time : I have heard about some kind of Blackmarket internet traders that are very had : to find. It sounds like something out of that Gibson book "Virtual Light" : Reuben Halper I guess there's a lot of new people on this list :-) Why don't you post something here with this key then... [wasabi.io.com] -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3a mQCPAixusCEAAAEEAJ4/hpAPevOuFDXWJ0joh/y6zAwklEPige7N9WQMYSaWrmbi XJ0/MQXCABNXOj9sR3GOlSF8JLOPInKWbo4iHunNnUczU7pQUKnmuVpkY014M5Cl DPnzkKPk2mlSDOqRanJZCkyBe2jjHXQMhasUngReGxNDMjW1IBzuUFqioZRpABEB AAG0IEJsYWNrTmV0PG5vd2hlcmVAY3liZXJzcGFjZS5uaWw+ =Vmmy -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Type bits/keyID Date User ID pub 1024/A19469 1993/08/15 BlackNet<nowhere(a)cyberspace.nil> 1 key(s) examined. See what sort of reply you get. Heh heh heh. G (Tim, don't go to bed early tonight, you might be getting some mail...)

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Re: Banyan vine use by US Marine Corps...
by gtoal＠an-teallach.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

: I don't know how I got onto this list, or many others to which I seem to : suddenly belong, but I'd be eternally grateful if you removed me from this one. What's probably happened is that someone has forged a subscription to a mailing list or two in your name. This is a fairly common net prank. Who have you annoyed recently? G PS The chances of catching the person from the mailer logs of the various lists you have been subscribed to is small but it's worth asking the people in charge if the original subscription request can still be found. Often there will be clues in the header as to where the forgery came from. (Eric, are you listening?)

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BlackNet
by Tommy the Tourist 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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The Herd Instinct & Response to Authority
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Tom Allard "This shows that, in real situations, people will follow herd instincts and obey orders." Herd instincts: of following together in large numbers, what the rest of the cows are doing or go where the rest of the herd is headed. The experiments on test subjects were done with individuals who were not aware of what others were doing in the same situation, so they could not have been imitating anyone's behavior. So it was a demonstration of something else, that being mostly their state of ignorance, or their deficient knowledge (of morality, of pain, of the meaning of what they see, hear, etc.). I would suspect that this was because they grew up without sufficient opportunity to exercise independent judgement or develop their own self-directing abilities. I think "herd instincts" are in the eyes of the beholder. >From Jeff Davis: (from an earlier post) "I am prone to action on instinct." [so he said...] "We better be DAMN careful who we put in authority in this country." Blanc

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Safeway + Your Privacy
by an3747＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In <0097D140.1B631720.2317(a)Leif.ucs.mun.ca> Bill Garland <bill(a)kean.ucs.mun.ca> wrote: > Hey, we have already inadvertently given great power to a centralized > government. We - many of us - well, some of us, well, er, I'm sure > at least Tim May and myself, are just trying to get some of it back, > and not to give them any more. No, you must be thinking of someone else. Tim May acts to _strengthen_ government. Why, just the other day he boasted about _voting_ for them: In Message-Id: <199404140800.BAA23572(a)mail.netcom.com> he wrote "Understand that I actually _voted_ [in a government election]... " Voting in their elections is right up there with petitioning them or accepting money from them as their justification for being. When they're challenged, they need only point to these constituencies. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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