December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

In Re: Modem Tax
by Jaeson.M.Engle＠josaiah.sewanee.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I wanted to oh so thankfully thank all 15 of you who so calmly and straightforwardly set me straight on this subject. I must apologize for my dire misdeed in presenting this to the list. Maybe you could all form a lynch mob, come on down to good ole Tennessee and beat this poor ignorant Hillbilly to death, hang him from a tree, and burn a few crosses while your at it. READ: Rude. Thank you. aka: (-: Jaeson M. Engle || jme(a)josaiah.sewanee.edu :-) (-: www server: http://josaiah.sewanee.edu/ :-) (-: It's February 8th! IT'S TIME!!! Ask me for details!:-) (-: Finger 'jme(a)josaiah.sewanee.edu' for my Public :-) PGP block.

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data charge
by Jaeson.M.Engle＠josaiah.sewanee.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This came to the machttp_talk list and though it was appropriate here: ****************************** >>Subject: Modem Use Fees > >Here is some info that was forwarded to me that all Arts Mgt >List readers will find interesting. Please act accordingly. Thanks! > >Two years ago the FCC tried and (with your help and letters of >protest) failed to institute regulations that would impose >additional costs on modem users for data communications. Now, >they are at it again. A new regulation that the FCC is quietly >working on will directly affect you as the user of a computer and >modem. The FCC proposes that users of modems should pay extra >charges for use of the public telephone network which carry their >data. In addition, computer network services such as CompuServ, >Tymnet, & Telenet would also be charged as much as $6.00 per hour >per user for use of the public telephone network. These charges >would very likely be passed on to the subscribers. The money is >to be collected and given to the telephone company in an effort >to raise funds lost to deregulation. Jim Eason of KGO newstalk >radio (San Francisco, CA) commented on the proposal during his >afternoon radio program during which, he said he learned of the >new regulation in an article in the New York Times. Jim took the >time to gather addresses which are given below. > > >Here's what you should do (NOW!): > >1-Pass this information on. Capture the information which >contains the text you are reading now. Find other BBS's that are >not carrying this information. Upload the ASCII text into public >message on the BBS, and also upload the file itself so others >can easily get a copy to pass along. > >2-Print out three copies of the letter which follows (or write >yours down) and send a signed copy to each of the following: > > Chairman of the FCC > 1919 M Street N.W. > Washington, D.C. 20554 > > Chairman, Senate Communication Subcommittee > SH-227 Hart Building > Washington, D.C. 20510 > > Chairman, House Telecommunication Subcommittee > B-331 Rayburn Building > >Here's the suggested text of the letter to send: > >Dear Sir: > >Please allow me to express my displeasure with the FCC >proposal which would authorize a surcharge for the use of modems >on the telephone network. This regulation is nothing less than an >attempt to restrict the free exchange of information among the >growing number of computer users. Calls placed using modems >require no special telephone equipment, and users of modems pay >the phone company for use of the network in the form of a monthly >bill. > >In short, a modem call is the same as a voice call and >therefore should not be subject to any additional regulation. > > Sincerely, > > > *************** > >It is important that you act now. The bureaucrats already have >it in their heads that modem users should subsidize the phone >company and are now listening to public comment. Please stand up >and make it clear that we will not stand for any government >restriction on the free exchange of information. > >Please deal with this in a TIMELY manner. We can't wait and >watch, or we will be walked over by government regulations that >are trying to strangle us. > > >Kirk deFord, Regional Telementor >Region I >The California Arts Project >@ Casa Grande High School >333 Casa Grande Road, Petaluma, CA 94953 >707.778-4677 (leave message) or at home: 707.769-8653 :%) >kdeford(a)ctp.org > > > >*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* >*- spiro(s) antonopoulos + Please Note New Email Address -* >*- souljerky research + spiros(a)rtoads.com -* >*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > aka: (-: Jaeson M. Engle || jme(a)josaiah.sewanee.edu :-) (-: www server: http://josaiah.sewanee.edu/ :-) (-: It's February 8th! IT'S TIME!!! Ask me for details!:-) (-: Finger 'jme(a)josaiah.sewanee.edu' for my Public :-) PGP block.

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Re: Magna Carta Analyzed
by Richard F. Dutcher 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: rkmoore(a)iol.ie (Richard K. Moore) > Subject: Magna Carta Analyzed Nice analysis - I'll use it with thanx. > [ Simple, succinct...and packed full of lies. > [ > [ My only question is: why did the document have to > [ be so long? > [ > [ -rkm > [ As every priest, mountebank, con artist, lawyer and politician knows, lites go down easier with *lots* of arm waving. Otherwise, we might pay attention to the men behind the curtain. Rich Dutcher, San Francisco Greens P.O. Box 77005, San Francisco, California 94107 USA "That's libertarians for you - anarchists who want police protection from their slaves." Kim Stanley Robinson, "Green Mars" Greens, of course, only enslave plants - so weed-whackers work better than cops ...

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US News and World Report
by Nathan Zook 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I just looked over an article in US News and World Report today. The cover was a badge with the words "Cyber Cops" on it. Guess which article I scanned. "Is Anything Safe in Cyberspace?" I think it came over okay. Quoted Chaum, mentioned the positive uses of remailers, had an extensive sections on privacy and on free speech. It was somewhat sympathetic to Clipper, didn't really take the protests seriously. Mentioned anonymous ecash. It also had a quote skewering the highway metiphore, "It's organic". This was all after the four horsemen were trotted out, in all their glory. If anyone looked at only the first six inches, it sounded like an attack on the net as a whole. I'ld give it a 4 on an objective scale, 7 compared to what we expect. Finger or request keyserver for PGP 2.6.2 (tm) key. PGP<->Mail/News installation incomplete. Factors for modulous are not proven primes. Key may be far weaker than expected. Encode your own risk. Key ID: 14712B4D 1994/12/26 Nathan H. Zook <nzook(a)bga.coKey fingerprint = 44 B3 D8 66 3D 55 1E 2E F8 92 22 A6 33 8C DE 24 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBLyRiMHmgMs8UcStNAQE0jQf+PoZWpuN5y8mDfpvn7g1eiJs6uHI+7DqM lS63jgQs5zE4Nfk7yXCyhh9HY7qx8T2P4TvRUBGFGZk74+9ANg54GopBDLWYEwFM eNgheMg1w/iF6kyrEyPBLS3QaphfjDgknf6ohBv6qx/ZOJ7N10iWW06eu5O/H9Se YDk6RvUzz7niyknGG1kO3aTqTqQ3tSG21FRktV7gbUeayLCLdhQKD7bowZkClR6Z KJ2gVvu7dmNczpsMYleZjOD2p9rSsMKoL42rJykbJRwHunJhF8hgaUnq8P7frmea xJ8YlcrrI+rwY5mNb6ylNR/KLNvV+rd17IZjE/+3xaPEM+s04dy1Rw== =WAub -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Remailer
by Wei Dai 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > From: Louis Cypher (alt.anonymous.messages) > > Define "f" as the fraction of remailer using population sending a > message in a given tick. This is also the probability that any > individual will send a message in a given tick. The probability of a > given pair of corespondents in a given tick is > f^2 > The probability of a pair of corespondents occurring m times in n > ticks is > m > p= 1 - Sum [(f^2)^i (1 - f^2)^(n-i) n! / (i! (n-i)!)] > i=0 Hmm... this sounds very similar to the results of my analysis which I posted yesterday (Subject: analysis of Chaum's MIX continued), which I think is slightly more general. > Lets put some numbers in there.... [deleted] > So, for a remailer using population of 10,000 you had better send less > than 5 messages per month to your accomplice. This only gets worse > the longer you keep it up. You can not send 4 per month, month after > month. Plugging these numbers into my formula, the "threshold of tracibility" comes out to be 4 messages. This is probably due to the fact that I used a normal approximation for the binomial probability (the p in the above formula). The general conclusion however is the same: unless most users send a lot of dummy mail to each other, a Chaum type mix will not provide very good untracibility. The other possible way to increase untracibility is to decrease the number of batches per unit time (i.e., increase average latency). This implies that with a Chaumian mix, there is an unavoidable tradeoff between untracibility, bandwidth (i.e., how much dummy mail has to be sent), and latency. Wei Dai -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBLybywzl0sXKgdnV5AQF0+AP/e5sKTVt5plvGydmILm+cBF14q6IJttDJ U0Es21jMH0hYPreiRwfUXwMc+bLs/RfTdmGBr0KUPHow0khlzfGHjU8ZKOMknSI/ +qvqHlMRPDfvKnp244qsQUJ1UmLAezeNObO4OMbejWbRRGu+Dd1iEeBpgnFOh0bH 6grf4VupdpU= =+Um1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Sex with the Gannett newspaper chain
by Michael Sattler 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:27 1/25/95, nobody(a)rahul.net wrote: >sorr(a)eznet.net wrote: >>I'm a reporter at the daily newspapers in Rochester, N.Y., researching a >> story on the recent spate of IP-spoof hack events.... > >Fuck Gannett. Thanks for the deeply intellectual addition to the discussion in progress. Perhaps you could send Steve Orr a message from a non-anon account explaining why you think his troll shows he's a clueless newbie, or, even better, forward some of the research material to him, so we don't wind up with another sensational, uninformative article. Oh well, I guess it's each to his ability... -----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Michael Sattler <msattler(a)jungle.com> San Francisco, California | Digital Jungle Consulting Services http://www.jungle.com/msattler/ | | And so these men of Indostan/ disputed long and loud/ each in his own | opinion/ exceeding stiff and strong/ though each was partly right/ and | all were in the wrong! - John Godfrey Saxe |

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US News and World Report [Repost]
by Nathan Zook 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I just looked over an article in US News and World Report today. The cover was a badge with the words "Cyber Cops" on it. Guess which article I scanned. "Is Anything Safe in Cyberspace?" I think it came over okay. Quoted Chaum, mentioned the positive uses of remailers, had an extensive sections on privacy and on free speech. It was somewhat sympathetic to Clipper, didn't really take the protests seriously. Mentioned anonymous ecash. It also had a quote skewering the highway metiphore, "It's organic". This was all after the four horsemen were trotted out, in all their glory. If anyone looked at only the first six inches, it sounded like an attack on the net as a whole. I'ld give it a 4 on an objective scale, 7 compared to what we expect. Finger or request keyserver for PGP 2.6.2 (tm) key. PGP<->Mail/News installation incomplete. Factors for modulous are not proven primes. Key may be far weaker than expected. Encode at your own risk. Key ID: 14712B4D 1994/12/26 Nathan H. Zook <nzook(a)bga.com> Key fingerprint = 44 B3 D8 66 3D 55 1E 2E F8 92 22 A6 33 8C DE 24 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBLyRiMHmgMs8UcStNAQE0jQf+PoZWpuN5y8mDfpvn7g1eiJs6uHI+7DqM lS63jgQs5zE4Nfk7yXCyhh9HY7qx8T2P4TvRUBGFGZk74+9ANg54GopBDLWYEwFM eNgheMg1w/iF6kyrEyPBLS3QaphfjDgknf6ohBv6qx/ZOJ7N10iWW06eu5O/H9Se YDk6RvUzz7niyknGG1kO3aTqTqQ3tSG21FRktV7gbUeayLCLdhQKD7bowZkClR6Z KJ2gVvu7dmNczpsMYleZjOD2p9rSsMKoL42rJykbJRwHunJhF8hgaUnq8P7frmea xJ8YlcrrI+rwY5mNb6ylNR/KLNvV+rd17IZjE/+3xaPEM+s04dy1Rw== =WAub -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Identity
by nobody＠rahul.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

sorr(a)eznet.net wrote: > To whomever: > I'm a reporter at the daily newspapers in Rochester, N.Y., researching a > story on the recent spate of IP-spoof hack events. Supposedly a toad.com > address was used by a person who broke into the San Diego supercomputer center > a month ago. What's toad.com? I got your name from a web search that found an > old communique. > Can you be any help? I'm simply trying to reconstruct what happened. > Steve Orr > Gannett Rochester Newspapers Fuck Gannett.

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anonymous IRC access....
by Vinod Valloppillil 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is there anyway to get anon irc access? there used to be a way to get it a couple of years ago but I can't find any ways to do it now.... sounds like a problem for cypherpunks.. ------------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Vinod Valloppillil | LibertarianismTelecommunicationsFreeMarketEnvi Engineering/Wharton | ronmentalismTechnologyExtropianismElectronicCa University of Pennsylvania | shInteractiveTelevisionEconomicsPhilosophyDigi vvallopp(a)eniac.seas.upenn.edu | talPrivacyAnarchoCapitalismRuggedIndividualism ------------------------------+-----------------------------------------------

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(Fwd) Information Superhighway - GAO Report
by Richard F. Dutcher 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Old news, I'm sure, but certain to be cited in the legal & regulatory debates ... ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 11:49:42 EST Reply-to: gao-docs <gao-docs(a)MAILHOST.GAO.GOV> From: gao-docs <gao-docs(a)MAILHOST.GAO.GOV> Subject: Information Superhighway - GAO Report To: Multiple recipients of list PUBPOL-L <PUBPOL-L(a)UMINN1.BITNET> GAO Report - Information Superhighway The U.S. General Accounting Office, the Congressional watchdog agency, has recently released the following report: *** ASCII Full Text Access and Ordering Info Follows *** TITLE: Information Superhighway: An Overview of Technology Challenges RPTNO: AIMD-95-23 DOCUMENT DATE: 01/23/95 BACKGROUND: GAO reviewed the technical issues associated with protecting the information superhighway from unauthorized access. FINDINGS: GAO found that: (1) the information superhighway poses technical challenges concerning the security, privacy, and reliability of personal and proprietary information; (2) a large proportion of the information that will traverse the superhighway will be sensitive and a tempting target for hackers, foreign governments conducting political and military intelligence operations, domestic and foreign enterprises engaged in industrial espionage, or terrorist groups seeking to disrupt society or the economy; (3) significant effort will be needed to define, develop, test, and implement measures to prevent unauthorized access to the superhighway; (4) although the federal government could play a leading role in ensuring the superhighway's security, critics argue that individuals should be free to choose the technical means for meeting their security requirements; (5) a major challenge facing the development of the information superhighway will be creating a consensus between the federal government, computer and communications industry, business community, and civil liberties groups on how to ensure information security and privacy; (6) federal and private sectors have begun establishing uniform standards to ensure the superhighway's interoperability; and (7) questions remain about how to protect the superhighway from large network failures and encourage the telecommunications industry to develop a secure and reliable infrastructure. *************************************************************** This report is available both in print and electronically. *************************************************************** [junk deleted] ***************** ELECTRONIC ORDER INFORMATION **************** To access GAO reports as FULL TEXT ASCII electronic files from the Government Printing Office (GPO) BBS, follow these steps: 1) TELNET to <federal.bbs.gpo.gov> and designate "port 3001" or dial 202-512-1387 (Menu Selection #22 on FEDWORLD); (***NOTE*** Depending on how your system accesses the TELNET feature, you may need to TELNET to this address: <federal.bbs.gpo.gov 3001> ^^^^^ and hit return a few times after connecting. 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