December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Where is PGP2.5?
by geoffw＠nexsys.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It seems like the directory at MIT is write locked. Anybody have the key?

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EFF's Kapor announces new cyberspace tv show
by Stanton McCandlish 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 09:13:23 -0400 From: mkapor(a)kei.com (Mitchell Kapor) Subject: My tv show (I thought you might be interested in this.) New Cyberspace TV Program I am developing a new program on cyberspace in conjunction with WGBH-TV, PBS' Boston affiliate. The show is intended to be a window onto the world of computer networks for the television viewer, whose point of view is that the world of on-line communications is interesting because of what people do there, not because of the digital plumbing which enables it. We will be focusing on the human aspects of networking and the individual and social aspects of being on-line. Cyberspace will be portrayed as a not-so-really strange territory after all, where all of us will increasingly come to live and work. My role is to guide people through this new territory, introducing the audience to its native culture, its scenic attraction, and its sights and sounds. We assume our audience is motivated by curiosity to learn more about what goes on in cyberspace, but we do not assume they are knowledgeable or, in general experienced with it. On the other hand, we will not trivialize the subject matter by reducing it to a least common denominator. We will give the show a look and feel which is approachable and down-to-earth. Interview guests and roundtable participants will be drawn from the net community itself. There will be plenty of demos of cool net stuff from Mosaic, CU See Me, and other cutting-edge applications and services. We are taping two test shows in mid-June which will be shown in Boston and other cities and hope to have some sort of national distribution (to be determined) in the fall for a regularly scheduled program. We are also going to create a WWW server for the show, the segments of which will be downloadable. The server will be have on it additional material which won't fit into the show format. An Invitation: We would like to include some video clips of net citizens expressing their greatest hope and worst fear about the future of the net which we will edit into an on-air piece for our regular feedback session. It's important to me to have the voices heard (and faces seen) of people already on the net. This is an opportunity for those of us who enjoy appreciate the decentralized and democratic character to express that sentiment to a mass audience. I hope you'll take advantage of the opportunity. Guidelines: Since an individual on-air clip will run at most 20-30 seconds, please keep your statement succinct. In shooting the clip, please feel free to pick a location which says something about yourself, whether it's your computer, your pet, or the great outdoors. We can accept Quicktime movies, VHS cassettes, or 8mm tapes. If you enclose a mailer, we will return your tape. We can also pick up digital submissions from any FTP site, etc. Contact Information: email: cybertv(a)kei.com Postal: Cybertv c/o Kapor Enterprises, Inc. 238 Main St., Suite 400 Cambridge MA 02142 -- Stanton McCandlish * mech(a)eff.org * Electronic Frontier Found. OnlineActivist "In a Time/CNN poll of 1,000 Americans conducted last week by Yankelovich Partners, two-thirds said it was more important to protect the privacy of phone calls than to preserve the ability of police to conduct wiretaps. When informed about the Clipper Chip, 80% said they opposed it." - Philip Elmer-Dewitt, "Who Should Keep the Keys", TIME, Mar. 14 1994

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Forwarded mail....
by Dan Harmon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 May 1994 17:00:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Dan Harmon <harmon(a)tenet.edu> To: cypherpunk(a)toad.com Subject: Is there a problem? I have not received any mail for the last three days. Dan Harmon

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List Down?
by VACCINIA＠UNCVX1.OIT.UNC.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Could someone tell me if the list is down? I have'nt gotten any mail for the past two days. Perhaps, a router into our site is down? Anyway, if it is the list and not my node, I would at least have a better fix on what is happening. Thanks. Scott G. Morham !The First, Vaccinia(a)uncvx1.oit.unc.edu ! Second PGP Public Keys by Request ! and Third Levels ! of Information Storage and Retrieval !DNA, ! Biological Neural Nets, ! Cyberspace -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLc74eT2paOMjHHAhAQGhDgQA076HZTxTUlY1/48AmEzpWuT/aUzkzFYT +l9JgSuBqzukF9FkDrGCEwPm0q5NMvU9bcQOmDskxtByotpj0XGetnqAskLH3qm8 4MJ2tnxS68VQkUszYYRxFgM/6SGf3KfdnFikjUY77iQdXnyC+jApMzMnbMeqim0V 9Oe/7MWTJMk= =ReD/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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converting old keys to new MIT PGP 2.5
by Pat Farrell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There has been a lot of speculation about the need to create new PGP 2.5 keys to keep on the mit keyserver. I got a copy of 2.5 beta last night. I ran it, and created a new 1024-bit key so Derek's work won't compromise my old 512 bit key. I then added my old key to my 2.5 keyring. Folks with long memories may recognize my key, I created it at NSA's National Computer Security Conference in 1992. Notice all the changes to make it 2.5 compliant. -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.5 mQCNAi3PfgAAAAEEAJ3jXeV45rPehvumTmvu3hWzirASU6CHuUKT+QwtMtXkIHsp IvSH96Cw02hH3Q9u48UWaOTrAtCyZHSEK59rtL16fGhUS8Uj4YQQjVlFXEwX0oxy DUUmKa2xDeW5QKd2knvnk36wqz4C+jJwBZv/pMapWaE4HXuuLrCsmOInW9opAAUR tC5QYXQgRmFycmVsbCAoUGF0cmljayBELikgPHBmYXJyZWxsQG5ldGNvbS5jb20+ =d32V -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- This surelooks like an 18 month old key with lots of sigs. -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.5 mQBNAiq7mr4AAAECAM9R8OL+Vr5uS85tCCI6caNElBdfobX9/0AKidfp/+D7MRz8 6IsyffmaCWp/F8yitR1FYzbe7kDxH1sado5v8o0ABRG0J1BhdCBGYXJyZWxsIDw3 NjQ2NywyNjEwQENvbXB1c2VydmUuY29tPokAlQIFECvZ+y2MLukKAcOq2wEBwOgD /0TiS1tQzoUBhe9nKAb/KuBZzXoyNwO1glvmWXciGQXokojxoHwarrbee/5iSPzm MPQPzt2OPRloHpkllaHnb2upji0Nd09ishr3vFsCVJUZStXsEGrEFR/W4xtUySF2 hFKgaYXpOQZJcevByWPT+2RWrvduDqTR9xQY0D93gN6RtC5QYXQgRmFycmVsbCAo UGF0cmljayBELikgPHBmYXJyZWxsQGNzLmdtdS5lZHU+iQCVAgUQK9McLI4wrq++ 1Ls5AQEgWAP/b/LVlqWQKWswOgNdD1SmTI+49Oa9nsh0mL8D+usu3oAYyUeSHcWE v53EFVl6Ab2ptyPIQ9dWBIMjWhQ/l/l7zn+rxl+7JLCE+Q7SUJNtIQovXknGXieX TQqcgbSOF/JsqKl0wio4axjBx42pkQPEbr2hQd07l8twxOm4s6mNg/2JAJUCBRAr QIiLWhaZXhf/sZkBASDoA/9Ou3yg2h24ruJUnfmIAcq8sBmZ8OqVi5HL44LkZqQR OiB6wYIZ3Ns84mTIlsuasGJ/KJCSerM3VHPWbJxX5Gcj7QiKJ0EAl3oUrelIijMB ZAIzVm11DOV2cb6zHsXdSuKEUzXxEV5QyWCeylLSuJ8Ls0QvYwoQCciiWQw+jijS 7IkAVQIFECs3sGbMi+WsjLS5UQEB4owB/RTCq9Ja67qlJSeqeEmWURv7o+q0B002 pYNx5gySy5cb4l3SKALNMgFja4Gchh7achk9JmLOJf/KiDB3rh1TpFqJAEUCBRAq 9QMWMS8XS2BAvK0BASocAYCPqFjOT4iCmzMvqgl4xJFD+NZUFm6RoT/VcjFsDa3c +H8keVgQ3KRwDSbmChSfEzqJAJUCBRArACIqBQGOdIYeg9kBAcxdBAC6SbdkxeOM QbwW99aT/nMTsRvc/MzpB7VacTxiY0X+Cxs61gGIZSa050N2JOhAloekPkiGoI/m 71UFeQ0VzlJaHJi7mzVXOWvQdGKllwlgp8/rWTIAPvai5ZD642s1ipsL+KrVsjY1 dqzBqY1d9SqBOqkhBUuUgn71z5FszSTet4kAlQIFECsS9Us1J04nVqoK1QEBcikD /21VkPPvwzfqNBdOAsIaz7zq2zIrjBCD2XpMN8fA6vMNoV99q7I8rkOA3tXxNnrH liVI7UKs7iB7+30xdXut3vXMc8Ar6wqrrRbmjPHduH7PzbTdNmRl+ckJLqnK8mNt PEdHLt3tzelcDCnjyFIzFZyXt5oW+JtahfUzTB6rqV5siQBVAgUQKwEiUFSLDsfl P4mDAQGHbQIAvzQnQAKUA1WubJiMeFBNshn1SJCXazLL3UCuicBa/ZjQlf/fPBrT WPhuGuwZ3Fv0zfeFUEf8MOqHcd6iUw/XNokAVQIFECr/4CkfWxp2jm/yjQEBbzsB /jSTK9T7iNcKeb9DJEa2bkERK/o9Tp+hr/pTDN6yvkfX8gCa3cAty0HjD6raBO49 i7RImcHcAxqoAm+IcOwlG/SJAFUCBRAq5VdzGYOCw1Lv1hcBAR4MAf0cjSwG8pQc 1wTaHJiYUU2aP++QMfGHvRA800Z4f1Gs5e7OWxQut8H7X5cZO5YK33kIPmvak2uO oPk4DPuwwxqaiQBVAgUQKt2aJKSRIVZZINU1AQEfkwH9HvhXFbofG81xH3SbqfUE 9bg9VGUX9c8xv5aSYxvFwL9zLwAv//jbqWIWlsYPRCfk8TZS0vOyDnCG4faP36Ab mLQnUGF0IEZhcnJlbGwgPDc2NDY3LjI2MTBAQ29tcHVTZXJ2ZS5jb20+iQCVAgUQ K2vtlFoWmV4X/7GZAQFOCAQAt2yWz8BAD22VSysN2r+TUVLeO8Ng0K8JtxVd1v3t os8qLYfenZOkaWwhrPEJ6ovN2GvWWcYSjl63ryEOGRnGLFxHOVPsQBLs1D+Qu4aE 9NQWKD03Z9tbw4ZtLWq5A8PHAbiNUQN7X7oCfPidpkW4s4UHE99O2fJ+LBGa1Jc8 5LmJAJUCBRArDb/FeWjYJM7+R1kBAalDBACGbwJDENsBOW5jCM1X3I7OPbQOT7bI IaSpo5oUB+JdV3Ir08rNv0feugStgE/AVnAY+Cx+sPfPCkjyprutrDjzq+WjmmZK TrWnaA/CfuzIXEblwXnszOx5pP14uKpu3VBzyYZN1xGRe1OwFc9C/578a0XHefGQ cfoI1XmZ+TLtwA== =K5uB -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- This might be a new key -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.5 mQCNAi3PfgAAAAEEAJ3jXeV45rPehvumTmvu3hWzirASU6CHuUKT+QwtMtXkIHsp IvSH96Cw02hH3Q9u48UWaOTrAtCyZHSEK59rtL16fGhUS8Uj4YQQjVlFXEwX0oxy DUUmKa2xDeW5QKd2knvnk36wqz4C+jJwBZv/pMapWaE4HXuuLrCsmOInW9opAAUR tC5QYXQgRmFycmVsbCAoUGF0cmljayBELikgPHBmYXJyZWxsQG5ldGNvbS5jb20+ iQBVAgUQLc9/oh9bGnaOb/KNAQEHuQIAvCmjJaDDkros1Lp7MxL+133tLTumSlW5 HFnkz99pzH8L85iFEYS/UUGTrNJkG2AOJWGt2NnDNCQ2HLOBtxJNVokAlQIFEC3P fqywrJjiJ1vaKQEBzFQD/jO274jo91J6uARzVVC+CG8CE5ocNz9ZZ1RSYM7tonbf YfgNfysT+G8fdFFxpZE40pWUte56sTfPH9isXo+GVN1JKIhI4mmdekrpme32ZXvw mTk9Kofj0mwZQwhKgtY1VTMG++tErOaTxIXnjMGZRVNQbKS1aXfI3XnSDdTZRrts =70Dd -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- So I say thanks Jeff, et al, and even thanks to Jim Bidzos. Pat Pat Farrell Grad Student pfarrell(a)cs.gmu.edu Department of Computer Science George Mason University, Fairfax, VA Public key availble via finger #include <standard.disclaimer>

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PGP v2.5 update
by grendel＠netaxs.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I know that the source for PGP 2.5 has been released for beta testing. I have been unable to get it yet [the server is really busy, as is NetAccess, so I time out. =( ] I also never saw the majority of the cypherpunk messages for the past five days due to Net Access's internet feed dying. Can someone please update me on the modifications to PGP v2.5 and the reasons why they are being made via private email (ie remove the list from the Cc: line). I gather that in the code as published you cant generate keys bigger than 1024 bits, but that's all I know. Thanks in advance. -- ========================================================================== | Michael Brandt Handler | Philadelphia, PA | <grendel(a)netaxs.com> | | PGP 2.3a public key available via server / mail / finger | ==========================================================================

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Harassment of a mailing list by lassie!jim%lassie@netcom.com
by kelly＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

And you sir have a netcom feed... as do I... I will be talking with Bob Rieger about your harassment of other netcom users on this list... I feel that you WILL lose your accounts with netcom if this HARASSMENT doesnt stop. I suggest you think about your highly immature actions of the last week.. a copy of this mail is being forwarded to noc(a)netcom.com as well as bobr(a)netcom.com... in fact I am sending a copy of ALL of your postings to netcom management... mailbombing a mailing list IS NOT with in netcom's AUP(that is Acceptable Use Policy). and IS grounds for revocation of your accounts on netcom... Think about it... kelly(a)netcom.com

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From Todays` RISKS column
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

D > D >White House May Issue National ID Cards D > D >The Clinton administration is working on a national ID card that D >every American would need in order to interact with any federal agency, D >reports Digital Media: A Seybold Report, a computer industry newsletter Gee. It's a good thing I don't "interact with any federal agency" or I'd be really worried. DCF "Ver are yur paypers?" I lost them. I'm an illegal alien. I don't have any. I'm a foreign tourist. I forget. I'm homeless. I'm an anarchist (a recognized alternative life/style) and I don't believe in such things. My dog ate them. As a product of the public schools, I couldn't read them so I must have thrown them away. Where are your papers? --- WinQwk 2.0b#1165

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Here they come...
by dmandl＠lehman.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In today's New York Times: "Anarchy, a Threat on the Electronic Frontier," by Peter H. Lewis. It's kind of a scare piece on how flame wars, abuse, and out-of-control sociopaths are destroying the self-regulating Eden of the net. The piece itself is more or less "neutral," in classic NYT style, but it can also be seen as the first rumblings of a call for some kind of "responsible regulation" of the net. The pedophiles we all run into by the thousands every day are mentioned in the piece, as are the "pornographic pictures [...] traded in great volume." Also, "virtually every network, large and small, has crackpots and sociopaths who seek to bully others with obscenities and threats." Other quotes: "In recent months, it has become difficult for even network libertarians to argue that the network community can resolve its problems through peer pressure alone." and "[...] 'What people will probably do is invent "site kill files,"' wrote David Hayes, a Usenet regular who works for the National Aeronautics and Space Admistration's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. [...] 'My fear is that this will be a cyber-revisiting of the blacklisting that was prevalent in the 50's,' Mr. Hayes wrote. 'Eventually, I predict that such site kill files will be used to censor politically unpopular views (like mine, for example).'" Think about that next time you put someone in your killfile. --Dave.

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Re: State Dept Response to my second CJ request
by Hal 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There is a problem with these "hair splitting" approaches to avoiding the ITARs (they accept the book; they reject the disks, so we ask to send some- thing that is halfway between the book and the disks, etc.). There is a well-known fallacy (whose fancy name I don't remember) which says that even though night and day change gradually from one to the other, and you can't really draw a line separating night from day, that doesn't change the fact that night is different from day. We may establish that hitting someone with a baseball bat is against the law, and hitting them with a feather is not; then we proceed to ask whether hitting them with a pillow is against the law, and so on. At some point the law is forced to make an absurd decision that hitting someone with item X is illegal while hitting them with Y is not, but X is almost the same as Y. Does this prove that no amount of assault is illegal? No. It just means that lines are not always easy to draw. In the same way, it is not easy to draw a line between a book which is protected by the first amendment and a program which a person can sit down and run to get military grade cryptography. But that does not lead to a strong legal argument that all cryptographic software is export- able, IMO. Hal

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