December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by Paul Rushizky 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: "Cipher"
by grand-central!amix!chip 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Arthur Chandler writes: > Neil Postman, in his *Technopoly*, asserts that the word "cipher" derives >ultimately from the Hindu word for void, and therefore "suggests the idea >of nothingness." (p 128) Does anyone else have info on the origin of this >word? Is Postman correct? Postman may be right about his etymology; I don't know, though I'm sure one of the many folks out there with an OED could answer this. However, arguing from etymology is one of the most irksome of the many bogus rhetorical techniques that the academic establishment has developed as part of its standard toolkit and really wish they would cut it out. The answer to the broader question, "Is Postman correct?", is "no".

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One Time Pads $5000|Cheap
by Harry Shapiro 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The cost of write once CD-ROM drives (CD-R) drives is really going down in price. You should be able to get a complete set-up for less than $5000. I would think you could use the CD-R drive to create a bunch of one time pads. Any thought? /HAWK -- Harry S. Hawk habs(a)extropy.org Electronic Communications Officer, Extropy Institute Inc. The Extropians Mailing List, Since 1991 EXTROPY -- A measure of intelligence, information, energy, vitality, experience, diversity, opportunity, and growth. EXTROPIANISM -- The philosophy that seeks to increase extropy.

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Re: One Time Pads $5000|Cheap
by freeman＠MasPar.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Since it is quite easy to make an electronic widget that creates random noise by amplifying up shot noise and counting detections across a threshold (varying the amplifier gain to adjust the rate), I suspect you are right. -- Jay Freeman

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Re: USENET on a tape, and future privacy
by jerry＠terminus.dell.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In article <2ee0sd$o5s(a)uudell.us.dell.com> you write: > >From owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com Sun Dec 12 02:49:42 1993 >Return-Path: <nate(a)vangogh.VIS.ColoState.EDU> >From: nate(a)VIS.ColoState.EDU (CVL staff member Nate Sammons) >Message-Id: <9312120152.AA25408(a)vangogh.VIS.ColoState.EDU> >I was just thinking. My roommate mentioned that he saw an ad for >a service available in europe. They send you an 8mm tape evey week >the last, say, 10 years, and run them through a filter to get a feel for Hm.. 1 tape a week at 52week/year, gives 520 8mm tapes, assuming they can process one tape every 30minutes, thats nearly 11 days. Proably will take about 1 to 2 hours a tape, just to read through the stuff. You are talking about thousands of dollars of cost to do such a search. Then someone has to weed out all of the other "Doe, John" messages that were not you. Considering most business don't bother to verify references, and those that do still usually only check employment history. Once again your are offered a limited protection by the volume of information. Usenet traffic being rated at some 21gigabytes a year (traffic through UUnet) considering the low information value of the vast majority of it, no one will be interested in storing it. In usenet no one can hear you scream... -- Jeremy Porter ------------- Systems Engineering -------- Dell Computer Corp. ------ jerry(a)terminus.us.dell.com ---- --- 70 4F BD AE 6D E9 D2 66 48 18 8B E7 64 7F 59 8F --- Support your Second Amendment rights to encryption technology.

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Re: LPC for speech (fwd)
by Timothy Newsham 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > >I'm not sure if a 486 can do the analysis in realtime. I'm sure ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ > >the 486 could do the analysis in real time. I have C code for ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >LPC that will do synthesis to a file in realtime on a 486 machine. > >(The code is mostly generic C and will compile on most machines) > I'm not sure what you mean, it could or couldn't be done on a 486? > I think that you meant that the compression could not be done in > realtime but the expansion could? Or vice versa? Good one eh? Sorry for the confusion. I'm sure the 486 can do *synthesis* in real time. I'm not sure it can do *analysis* in real time. > Jeremy Porter ------------- Systems Engineering -------- > Dell Computer Corp. ------ jerry(a)terminus.us.dell.com ----

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Re: USENET on a tape, and future privacy
by jordan＠imsi.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From jerry(a)terminus.us.dell.com Sun Dec 12 00:06:31 1993 You are talking about thousands of dollars of cost to do such a search. Sorry, I do searches like that all the time for "serious" candidates. Takes me no more than 10 minutes to set up the criteria, and an hour or so on an airplane to browse the output. Granted, I don't search a year (hey, if a candidate is a jerk on the net, they'll show up more than a few times in just a month's worth ...), but your "it's in the noise" statement is naive. /jordan

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Re: USENET on a tape, and future privacy
by markh＠wimsey.bc.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> I was just thinking. My roommate mentioned that he saw an ad for > a service available in europe. They send you an 8mm tape evey week > that has all the USENET traffic on it. I was thinking that a large There is also a company in Vancouver B.C. that will sell you a subscription to USENET on CDROM. Each CD contains about a week of traffic (the cost is something like US$20 per CD). They CDs don't include traffic from certain newsgroups (mostly the sex related ones. I guess they don't want to get busted for distributing obscene material). I can dig up contact information, if anyone is interested. I spoke with one of their representatives a while back, and they apparently have sold subscriptions to various government agencies in the U.S. and Canada. Mark -- Mark Henderson markh(a)wimsey.bc.ca (personal account) RIPEM and ViaCrypt PGP 2.4 keys available by key server/finger/E-mail RIPEM MD5OfPublicKey: F1F5F0C3984CBEAF3889ADAFA2437433 ViaCrypt PGP Key Fingerprint: 21 F6 AF 2B 6A 8A 0B E1 A1 2A 2A 06 4A D5 92 46

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Re: Privacy as a Commodity
by wcs＠anchor.ho.att.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Brian Beker writes: > is an appropriate level of privacy? When that question is formed on the > basis of "What have you got to hide?" it takes on the aspect of > accusation. And yet, that is precisely the question posed by our > government as it leads the cheers for the good, right-thinking folk who > know that only the guilty, only the criminally insane could ever feel the > overwhelming need for absolute privacy. Of course, the organization asking us "Why on earth would you want privacy, when we can run your lives so much better if we know everything you're doing?" is the same organization that splits up its information into categories like SECRET, TOP SECRET, ULTRA, BURN BEFORE READING, WNINTEL, RESTRICTED DATA, FORMERLY RESTRICTED DATA, NO FOREIGN NATIONALS, FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY..... Cynically, Bill

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Re: One Time Pads $5000|Cheap
by wcs＠anchor.ho.att.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

One disadvantage of CDROMs is that you lose a major advantage that real paper one-time pads had - once you had used a page, you could burn it. With a CD-ROM, presumably the whole pad *will* last you a while, and you probably don't want to melt the outer tracks of the disk as you use them up... So you either send ~600MB of secret stuff or waste the disk, depending on how secure your communications needs are and how soon you expect to be busted. Bill # Bill Stewart Old address: wcs(a)anchor.ho.att.com AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ # After 10/15, NCR, 6870 Koll Center Parkway, Pleasanton CA, 94566 # Voice/Beeper 510-224-7043, Phone 510-484-6204, email bill.stewart(a)pleasantonca.ncr.com

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