December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Fwd: [gtoal@an-teallach.com (Graham Toal)]Info on Clipper chip and fabrication of it
by Postmaster＠cproject.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In article <9311092013.AA09822(a)vangogh.VIS.ColoState.EDU> nate(a)vis.colostate.edu writes: > Last I heard, hte model of the ARM series used in the Newton (the > ARM 610 processor) cranked out about 30,000 Drystones and used > _very_ little power. Oh boy, wait till the guys on comp.sys.acorn hear about this! I can tell why the arm was chosen: it comes as a drop-in circuit that manufacturers can use in their own designs. Not many of the other low-power fast CPUs are available like this. And its very small, and blindingly fast. G -- Personal mail to gtoal(a)gtoal.com (I read it in the evenings) Business mail to gtoal(a)an-teallach.com (Be careful with the spelling!) Faxes to An Teallach Limited: +44 31 662 4678 Voice: +44 31 668 1550 x212

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Re: Are we gatewayed to Usenet?
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I think there's a difference between a gateway into USENET and a gateway from USENET. The latter would give us a feed from Sternlight, Pope, et al. - Carl

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oops
by Carl Ellison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

please ignore the previous message (I must be tired). Access from the net to cpunx is already trivial. so much for that.

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Re: Should we oppose the
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

D >The problem is that bandwidth is a highly limited resource, just like D >real estate is a limited resource. Eventually we will complete D >saturate network bandwidth no matter what technology is used. This has D >been discussed in various forums for many years. Then why have telecoms prices been declining for years? A three minute phone call from the US to England cost $25 in 1955 (in 1955 dollars). Where in the current comms spectrum do you see saturation and rising prices? It seems to me that in most resources we get predictions of shortages for centuries but those shortages never appear because the market eliminates or dodges them. DCF --- WinQwk 2.0b#1165

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AT&T encryption software
by Philippe Nave 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well, well, well. I should have guessed that we [AT&T] would scramble onto the encryption software bandwagon sooner or later. Buried in the bowels of the PBX business, I haven't heard anything about the product yet, but that's about par for the course. I would like to strongly encourage anybody who can get a copy of this product to examine it thoroughly; my gut feel is *bad*, but I'll need some concrete facts if I am to present a dissenting view. Sooner or later, the PC lab guys will probably be installing this thing on our PCs and we'll be the 'vanguard of the future' (again!). I am particularly interested in whether this package is interoperable with PGP- for some reason, I tend to doubt it <tired grin>. [If any of you were wondering whether or not I 'speak for AT&T', this posting should remove all doubt..] ........................................................................ Philippe D. Nave, Jr. | The person who does not use message encryption pdn(a)dwroll.dw.att.com | will soon be at the mercy of those who DO... Denver, Colorado USA | PGP public key: by arrangement.

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Hardware for Sale
by abootch＠sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FYI -- Noticed in new ish of 2600 an ad for Consumertronics in NM selling Tempest, Van Eck systems, KX Radar Emitter -- and more (of course). No free catalog, tho'. -- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.3a mQBNAizdNhgAAAECAKYlJfK4YQoaRYtiywdgR7OQmsS23oRFr3QYZf4mE1pQTvPg DGB7xVx2mfRjsqUdQsar4vdWyNZmXLMmHNdez9UABRG0K0FuZHkgSS4gTWF0aW5v ZyA8YWJvb3RjaEBzZnN1dmF4MS5zZnN1LmVkdT4= =KJFP -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: Is Clipper Almost Dead? (was: Clipper and Tipper on Route 666)
by owen＠autodesk.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: Clark Reynard <clark(a)metal.psu.edu> > I think it would be very important if we could attempt to > sway the Christian right into this; it is certain we > probably don't agree on many issues, and the "700 Club" > anti-Clipper piece was very effective, good video. > > If you don't believe me, watch it. They almost seem > to agree with us entirely on the issue of cryptography. > Perhaps it's time for a _new_ group; the cyphermonks. > > I nominate St. John the Divine as a patron saint. Don Corleone taught his son Michael to *keep his friends close, and his enemys closer*. meanwhile, don't forget for a second that the christian right *will* toss your anarchic ass on the pyre where they *will* roast pagan faggots like myself after they've squeezed you for your support. Religion has it's protection clearly enumerated in the constitution, and a clear agenda to keep everyone elses freedom from being similary enumerated. Caveat emptor, and carry a loaded flamethrower, because the first chance they get to cut you out of the deal you will need it. Me, I plan to be long gone into the "Inner Zone (TM)". LUX ./. owen

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Re: Should we oppose the Data Superhighway/NII?
by jon＠balder.us.dell.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mike writes: > Doug writes: >> Mike Godwin <mnemonic(a)eff.org> said: >> >First of all, EFF's Open Platform says outright that the government is not >> >going to build the data superhighway. Check again if you don't believe me. >> >> Ah...do you mean "should not build", or do you really mean that it contains >> a discussion outlining the logic behind predicting that they *won't* >> build? > > Nobody seriously thinks the government's going to build a Data > Superhighway. EFF's interested in seeing the private sector do it. I thought we already had a data superhighway and what congress (et Al) is really talking about is a national system of on-ramps and off-ramps? Jon -- ,,, (o o) Jon Boede ----ooO-(_)-Ooo---- jon(a)dell.com +1 512 728-4802 Engineering, Dell Computer Corp. Server OS Development Austin, TX "When I was 10, mean old man Miller's house burned down. We put home plate where his toilet once stood -- his garden became our center field... and in these ways, the laws of karma were revealed."

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Re: Big Mother can't protect our privacy
by cfrye＠ciis.mitre.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim writes: > >(* MMPI is the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Index test, which >sounds like the test described here. It has a couple of thousand of >these questions. Without defending the analytical powers of this test, >let me say that the intent is psychological, not political. The >famoous questions about believing in God, having homosexual >experiences, washing one's hands, and so on, are devised by shrinks, >not designed to ferret out atheists and homos. The MMPI has been in >wide use since the 1950s, though it's use is declining as people file >lawsuits over it.) > It should also be noted that the MMPI is designed to diagnose abnormal personalities, while the California Personality Inventory (CPI) is designed to diagnose more or less normal personality traits. It seems that companies indiscriminately giving the MMPI to individuals without suspision of neurotic/ psychotic tendencies would open themselves up for a solid thumping in court. P.S. - I noticed a book on the statistical basis of the MMPI in the psychology section of Border's Bookstore in Tysons Corner, VA, a few months ago. If there's interest, I could look for a citation on my next trip there. Curtis D. Frye cfrye(a)ciis.mitre.org "If you think I speak for MITRE, I'll tell you how much they pay me and make you feel foolish."

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cypherpunks hardware list
by jdblair＠lust.cas.muohio.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To all of those interested in the cypherpunks hardware list: I apoligize for the delay- I expected to have it on-line by now. It is really close to running, I'm just getting some errors from the ListProc software that my SysAdmin is ironing out right now. It should be running within 24 hours. later, -john.

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