December 2003 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: White House crypto proposal -- too little, too late
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 20:19:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: fight-censorship(a)vorlon.mit.edu Cc: joeshea(a)netcom.com Subject: Re: White House crypto proposal -- too little, too late [Joe, this may be yet another area where we disagree. It represents a power grab by law enforcement; the infrastructure is prone to failure and can be compromised; it's more government meddling and coercion and more restrictions on free speech; the Fed bureaucrats controlling this are vulnerable to special-interest lobbying; the Constitution gives the Federal government no right to impose such restrictions; the FBI has demonstrated that we can't trust the Feds with our most personal information; it violates an absolute right to privacy; and it's technically impractical for a good number of applications. --Declan] ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 1 Oct 1996 15:57:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Joe Shea <joeshea(a)netcom.com> To: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> Cc: fight-censorship Subject: Re: FC: White House crypto proposal -- too little, too late Declan's most recent piece makes much more sense than the earlier one. He is quite correct in emphasizing the future vulnerability of the encryption logarithms rather than centering on whether or not terrorists might use them. By making them impossible to crack without the key, and permitting the key to be available to appropriate law enforcement authorities when absolutely necessary, everyone's real needs are satisfied, I think. I enjoyed this report a lot. Best, Joe Shea Editor-in-Chief The American Reporter joeshea(a)netcom.com http://www.newshare.com:9999

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Ve know you have relatives in Germany
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Recollect all those World War II propoganda movies where the evil Nazi would sneer: "Ve know you have relatives in ze Fatherland" According Scientific American (page 40, october 1996, an early version of a proposed German web control law would require operators of "media services" to provide German authorities with the name of a german resident who would be "subject to unlimited criminal liabilities". The Scientific American commentator predicted a low rate of compliance. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: NYT on IBM GAK
by Rich Burroughs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:03 PM 10/2/96 -0800, you wrote: >At 08:26 AM 10/2/96 -0700, Lucky Green wrote: >> >> >>On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, John Young wrote: >> >>> The New York Times, October 2, 1996, pp. D1, D8. >>> Executives of the International Business Machines >>> Corporation said late yesterday that they were still lining >>> up the final list of companies in the alliance. Those >>> involved will include Digital Equipment and smaller >>> data-security companies including RSA Data Security, Cylink >>> and Trusted Information Systems. >> >>We are in deep trouble. >>--Lucky > >Wouldn't a letter-writing campaign be in order here? [snip] The word "boycott" leaped into my mind. I personally do not believe that I will be buying products from any of these companies, as long as thay participate in this GAK charade. Rich

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EPIC Alert 3.17
by Dave Banisar 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

============================================================= @@@@ @@@@ @@@ @@@@ @ @ @@@@ @@@@ @@@@@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @@@@ @@@ @ @ @@@@@ @ @@@ @@@ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @ @@@@ @ @@@ @@@@ @ @ @@@@ @@@@ @ @ @ ============================================================== Volume 3.17 October 2, 1996 -------------------------------------------------------------- Published by the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) Washington, D.C. http://www.epic.org/ ======================================================================= Table of Contents ======================================================================= [1] White House Releases New Clipper Proposal [2] International Crypto Symposium Held in Paris for OECD [3] OECD Crypto Experts Meet in Paris [4] Human Rights Groups Release Crypto Resolution [5] E-FOIA Bill Approved by House and Senate [6] P-TRAK SSN System Criticism Continues [7] Avrahami Files Appeal to State Supreme Court [8] Upcoming Conferences and Events ======================================================================= [1] White House Releases New Clipper Proposal ======================================================================= The White House has released the latest version of the key escrow/recovery plan intended to promote government access to encoded communications. The new proposal follows similar proposals in which the Administration offers to relax export regulations in exchange for an industry commitment to establish key escrow encryption. Under the plan announced by the Office of the Vice President on October 1, 1996, companies would be allowed to export 56-bit encryption systems for the next two years if they setup a formal process to fully develop a key escrow system. After two years, non-escrow systems would be prohibited. Jurisdiction for the control of exports would also be transferred from the State Department to the Commerce Department. The Justice Department would be given veto power over export applications. The White House plans to introduce legislation for key escrow centers. According to the statement released by the Vice President, the Administration will continue to promote key escrow encryption through the purchase of key recovery products, bilateral and multilateral discussions, federal cryptographic and key recovery standards, and federal funding. The statement also said that "the Administration's initiative is broadly consistent with the recent recommendations of the National Research Council." However, the NRC report recommended against government promotion of key escrow encryption, noting that "the risks of key escrow encryption are considerable," Earlier this year, the Internet Society also endorsed a recommendation of the Internet Architecture Board and the Internet Engineering Steering Group which said that "such policies are against the interests of consumers and the business community, and are largely irrelevant to issues of military security." IBM announced that it would establish an industry consortium to support the plan, and several US hardware companies signed on. However, Netscape head Jim Barkesdale described the proposal as "extortion". Bipartisan criticism was also heard from Congress. Both Senator Leahy and Senator Burns quickly issued releases criticizing the proposal. The software industry expressed opposition to the White House plan. The Software Publishers Association, the Business Software Alliance, and the International Technology Association of America criticized the proposal. More information on Clipper 4.0 is available at: http://www.epic.org/crypto/key_escrow/ ======================================================================= [2] International Crypto Symposium Held in Paris for OECD ======================================================================= On September 25, 1996 cryptographers, human rights advocates, legal scholars, and delegates to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development met in Paris to explore issues concerning cryptography policy. The symposium was scheduled to coincide with an OECD meeting to consider new guidelines on international cryptography policy. The conference on the "Public Voice in the Development of International Encryption Policy" was sponsored by EPIC and Planete Internet and held in the Centre de Conferences des Internationales. Justice Michael Kirby, a member of the High Court of Australia and former chair of the OECD expert panels on security and privacy, opened the conference with remarks that placed the current effort to develop cryptography guidelines in the larger context of the OECD's work on privacy and information security and the ongoing need to recognize human rights concerns. Justice Kirby, drawing on his international human rights work in the area of HIV/AIDS, urged participants to keep in mind ten principles for the development of sound policies. Justice Kirby concluded his remarks with an appeal that "the claims of national security and law enforcement agencies be attained within a context of constitutionalism, the rule of law and respect for, and effective protection of human rights." Kirby reminded those present that "respect of human rights, and especially individual privacy" is "the ultimate common denominator of the OECD." Welcoming remarks were provided Mr. Norman Reaburn the Chair of the OECD Expert Panel on Cryptography Policy, Mr. John Dryden the head of the OECD Secretariat, and Mr. Marc Rotenberg the director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) in Washington, DC. The panels were moderated by OECD delegates from Australia, Canada, Germany, and Japan. The first panel "Cryptography Policy: The View of Cryptographers" featured Dr. Ross Anderson of the University of Cambridge, Dr. Matt Blaze of AT&T Laboratories, Dr. Whitfield Diffie of Sun Microsystems, Mr. Yves Le Roux of Digital Research, and Dr. Herb Lin of the National Research Council. The second panel "Human Rights Issues in the Development of Cryptography Policy" featured Mr. Dave Banisar of EPIC, Mme. Louise Cadoux of the Commission Nationale de l'Informatique et des Libertes, Mr. Simon Davies of Privacy International, Mr. Barry Steinhardt with the American Civil Liberties Union, and Mr. Alain Weber of the French Human Rights League The third panel "User Needs for Strong Cryptography" featured Dr. Brian Carpenter of the Internet Architecture Board, Dr. Stephane Bortzmeyer of the Association des Utilisateurs d'Internet, and Mr. Phil Zimmerman of the Pretty Good Privacy Inc. The final panel "Legal Dimensions and Cryptography Policy" featured Mr. Victor Mayer-Schoenberger of the Austrian Institute for Law and Policy, Mr. Kevin O'Connor the Australian Privacy Commissioner, and Prof. Joel Reidenberg of the Fordham Law School and the Sorbonne. The complete program for the EPIC/Planete Internet conference, the speech of Justice Kirby, remarks of speakers, and other resources are available at: http://www.epic.org/events/crypto_paris/ ======================================================================= [3] OECD Crypto Panels Meets in Paris ======================================================================= Following the EPIC/Planete Internet conference, the OECD Member countries met in Paris for two days to discuss Cryptography Policy Guidelines that could provide internationally comparable criteria for encryption of computerised information. According to the OECD, the Guidelines identify the issues which countries should take into consideration in formulating cryptography policies at the national and international level. An OECD press statement said that, "Discussions have focused on the rights of users to choose cryptographic methods, the freedom of the market to develop them, interoperability, consequences for the protection of personal data and privacy, lawful access to encrypted data, and reducing the barriers to international trade." The OECD Guidelines will be non-binding recommendations to Member governments, meaning that they will not be part of international law, nor will they endorse any specific cryptography system. The Group of Experts on Cryptography Policy will continue discussions the week of December 16, with a view to completion this year of a draft of the Guidelines which would be forwarded for approval by the Council of the OECD early in 1997. The complete text of the OECD press statement is available in english at: http://www.epic.org/events/crypto_paris/releaseE_OECD.html The complete text of the OECD press statement is available in french at: http://www.epic.org/events/crypto_paris/releaseF_OECD.html ======================================================================= [4] Human Rights Groups Release Privacy Resolution ======================================================================= More than a dozen international human rights and cyber rights organizations recently endorsed a resolution in Support of the Freedom to Use Encryption. The resolution was released in Paris on September 25, just prior to the meeting of the OECD. Noting that "national governments have already taken steps to detain and to harass users and developers of cryptography technology" and that "cryptography is already in use by human rights advocates who face persecution by their national governments," the organizations urged the OECD to "base its cryptography policies on the fundamental right of citizens to engage in private communication." The organizations further urged the OECD to "resist policies that would encourage the development of communication networks designed for surveillance." The organizations that endorsed the resolution included ALCEI (Electronic Frontiers Italy), the American Civil Liberties Union, Association des Utilisateurs d'Internet, CITADEL-EF France, Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility, cyberPOLIS, Digital Citizens Foundation in the Netherlands, EFF-Austin, Electronic Frontier Australia, Electronic Frontier Canada, Electronic Frontier Foundation, Electronic Privacy Information Center, Human Rights Watch, NetAction, and Privacy International The campaign was organized by the Global Internet Liberty Coalition, a new coalition of national and international human rights and cyber rights organizations. The complete text of the crypto resolution is available at: http://www.gilc.org/gilc/resolution.html ======================================================================= [5] E-FOIA Bill Approved by House and Senate ======================================================================= Congress has passed and sent to the President the Electronic Freedom of Information Act Amendments of 1996. The "E-FOIA" legislation requires federal agencies to make information available to requesters in electronic form "if the record is readily reproducible by the agency in that form or format." It also requires agencies to maintain indices of previously released documents that are "likely to become the subject of subsequent requests," and to make such indices available "by computer telecommunications" no later than December 31, 1999. The legislation also attempts to tackle the perennial problem of agency delays in responding to FOIA requests. These provisions include the establishment of "multitrack processing of requests ... based on the amount of work or time (or both) involved," and the expedited processing of requests upon a showing of "compelling need." It is likely that these new provisions, like earlier FOIA amendments designed to improve public access, will be applied narrowly by federal agencies and become the subject of litigation. The text of the E-FOIA legislation is available at: http://www.epic.org/open_gov/foia/efoia.html ======================================================================= [6] P-TRAK SSN System Criticism Continues ======================================================================= Opposition to the proliferation of commercial databases exploded into public view recently when the Lexis-Nexis P-TRAK "personal locator" system prompted a flood of angry e-mail and telephone calls to the information service company. The P-TRAK database originally allowed Lexis-Nexis subscribers to search under an individual's name and access telephone numbers, addresses, previous addresses, maiden names and Social Security numbers (SSNs). After an initial flurry of complaints in June, the company claimed that it had eliminated SSNs from its database. After the recent flare-up, the firm provided a clarification: SSNs are no longer searchable using an individual's name, but a subscriber can start with an SSN (or any nine-digit number, for that matter), and obtain all of the personally-identifying information that goes along with that number. Also, contrary to claims of the Lexis/Nexis company, the personal data was not publicly available, nor is it similar to "white pages" information. In fact, Lexis/Nexis obtained the P-TRAK personal locator information from TransUnion, a credit reporting agency. The two companies exploited a loophole in the Fair Credit Reporting Act which leaves credit "header" information unprotected even though the associated credit report could not be disclosed. In the wake of the P-TRAK episode, the Federal Trade Commission recommended that Congress take steps to provide greater protection for sensitive information. The FTC says that it has received "numerous complaints "... concerning recently-introduced, widely-available commercial services that provide, for a fee, identifying information on individuals." Congress adjourned before it could act, but is likely to take up the issue next year. Additional information on the misuse of Social Security numbers is available at: http://www.epic.org/privacy/ssn/ ======================================================================= [7] Avrahami Files Appeal to State Supreme Court ======================================================================= Ram Avrahami, the Virginia resident who brought suit last year against U.S. News and World Report for selling his name without his consent, has appealed the decision of a lower court to the Virginia State Supreme Court. Mr. Avrahami argues that the lower court wrongly dismissed his claim. He argues that under Virginia law "the unauthorized sale, exchange, or rental of a person's name as part of a mailing list violates the Privacy Act's prohibition on using a person's name for the purposes of trade." He also contends, among other points, that "the Mail Preference Service established by the Direct Marketing Association is no substitute for the 'written consent' required by the Privacy Act." U.S. News & World Report will reply to Mr. Avrahami's motion and then the Virginia Supreme Court must decide whether to review the decision of the lower court. More information on Avrahami v. US News & World Report is available at: http://www.epic.org/privacy/junk_mail/ ======================================================================= [8] Upcoming Conferences and Events ======================================================================= "Managing Privacy in Cyberspace and Across National Borders." October 8-10, 1996. Washington, DC. Sponsored by Privacy and American Business. Contact: Lorrie Sherwood, (201) 996-1154. "The Information Society: New Risks & Opportunities in Privacy," October 17-18, 1996. Bruxelles, Belgium. Sponsored by the European Parliament. Contact: http://www.droit.fundp.ac.be/privacy96.html "Communications Unleashed - What's at Stake? Who Benefits? How to Get Involved!" October 19-20, 1996. Washington DC. Sponsored by CPSR and Georgetown University. Contact: phyland(a)aol.com. "19th National Information Systems Security Conference." October 22-25, 1996. Baltimore, MD. Sponsored by NSA & NIST. Contact: Tammy Grice (301) 948-2067. National Consumer Rights Litigation Conference: Defending Consumer Access to Justice. October 26-28. Washington, DC. Sponsored by the National Consumer Law Center. Contact: NCSL: (617) 523-7398 (fax). ETHICOMP96: The Third International Conference on Ethical Issues of Information Technology, November 6-8, 1996. Madrid, Spain. Contact: pbarroso(a)capilla.cph.es. "CFP97: Commerce & Community." March 11-14, 1997. Burlingame, California. Sponsored by the Association for Computing Machinery. Contact: Cfp97(a)cfp.org or http://www.cfp.org. "Eurosec'97, the Seventh Annual Forum on Information Systems Quality and Security." March 17-19. 1997. Paris, France. Sponsored by XP Conseil. Contact: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/eurosec/ "INET 97 -- The Internet: The Global Frontiers." June 24-27, 1997. Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Sponsored by the Internet Society. Contact: inet97(a)isoc.org or http://www.isoc.org/inet97. (Send calendar submissions to alert(a)epic.org) ======================================================================= The EPIC Alert is a free biweekly publication of the Electronic Privacy Information Center. To subscribe, send email to epic-news(a)epic.org with the subject: "subscribe" (no quotes). Back issues are available via http://www.epic.org/alert/ ======================================================================= The Electronic Privacy Information Center is a public interest research center in Washington, DC. It was established in 1994 to focus public attention on emerging privacy issues such as the Clipper Chip, the Digital Telephony proposal, national id cards, medical record privacy, and the collection and sale of personal information. EPIC is sponsored by the Fund for Constitutional Government, a non-profit organization established in 1974 to protect civil liberties and constitutional rights. EPIC publishes the EPIC Alert, pursues Freedom of Information Act litigation, and conducts policy research. For more information, email info(a)epic.org, HTTP://www.epic.org or write EPIC, 666 Pennsylvania Ave., SE, Suite 301, Washington, DC 20003. +1 202 544 9240 (tel), +1 202 547 5482 (fax). If you'd like to support the work of the Electronic Privacy Information Center, contributions are welcome and fully tax-deductible. Checks should be made out to "The Fund for Constitutional Government" and sent to EPIC, 666 Pennsylvania Ave., SE, Suite 301, Washington DC 20003. Individuals with First Virtual accounts can donate at http://www.epic.org/epic/support.html Your contributions will help support Freedom of Information Act and First Amendment litigation, strong and effective advocacy for the right of privacy and efforts to oppose government regulation of encryption and funding of the National Wiretap Plan. Thank you for your support. ---------------------- END EPIC Alert 3.17 -----------------------

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Re: Utah as a Religious Police State
by Ross Wright 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am going out of my mind behind this one. Please kill this topic. I left the Mormon church long ago, and I don't want a dose of LDS with my crypto-fix! On or About 2 Oct 96 at 12:33, Deana Holmes wrote: > On 2 Oct 96 at 8:47, John C. Randolph wrote: > > > > > Moroni says: > > > > >I never cease to be surprised by the interest that gentiles show > > >in working mormon communities while totally neglecting their own > > >failing areas. > > > > I don't do a lot of nit-picking on this mailing list, but: > > > > I am a Jew. *You* are a gentile. So are all the rest of the mormons. > > Get this point straight. > > Uh, in Utah, Jews are Gentiles. No lie. Yeah, I knew that. I know plenty, and there are many pages for recovering Mormons. Believe me, I've been there. I could go on about my personal experiences of being on the "fast track" to church leadership, but that's the point. I would rather not hear about it here. Ross =-=-=-=-=-=- Ross Wright King Media: Bulk Sales of Software Media and Duplication Services http://www.slip.net/~cdr/kingmedia Voice: 415-206-9906

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[SPAM] Timmy May the (alleged) animal lover
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I have no dog, nor any other pets. Timmy May (fart) reportedly has two cats. If you suspect that Timmy May (fart) sexually abuses his cats, or any other animals, you should promptly contact the ASPCA and also alert rec.pets.cats. (Frankly, I doubt that the old fart can get his dick up to sexually abuse anything, including his cats. Senility puts an end to sexual molestation.) >From: Troy Varange <varange(a)crl.com> >Message-Id: <199610021931.AA24883(a)crl11.crl.com> >Subject: Important >To: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) >Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 12:31:21 -0700 (PDT) >In-Reply-To: <gqH3uD93w165w(a)bwalk.dm.com> from "Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" at Sep 30, 96 07:57:27 am >X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Length: 6226 > >Dr. Vulis sucks his dog's butt. > >> Timmy May has no life. >> >> >From: Troy Varange <varange(a)crl.com> >> >Message-Id: <199609300441.AA10704(a)crl12.crl.com> >> >Subject: Re: Vulis FUCKHEAD sucks Timmy's Cock >> >To: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) >> >Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 21:41:42 -0700 (PDT) >> >In-Reply-To: <LJV2uD91w165w(a)bwalk.dm.com> from "Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" at Sep 29, 96 11:58:09 pm >> >X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] >> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >Content-Length: 5298 >> > >> >Vulis sucks Timmy's boyfriend's cock. >> >> >> >> Timmy May has no life. >> >> >> >> >From: Troy Varange <varange(a)crl.com> >> >> >Message-Id: <199609300332.AA09870(a)crl12.crl.com> >> >> >Subject: Re: [SPAM] More "fuckhead" fan mail from Timmy "peteur" May >> >> >To: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) >> >> >Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 20:32:58 -0700 (PDT) >> >> >In-Reply-To: <ueP2uD86w165w(a)bwalk.dm.com> from "Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" at Sep 29, 96 09:45:41 pm >> >> >X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] >> >> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >> >> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >> >> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> >Content-Length: 4378 >> >> > >> >> >> berserk >> >> >> Timmy May has gone . Has he been eating speed? >> >> >> bananas >> >> >> >> >> >> >From: Troy Varange <varange(a)crl.com> >> >> >> >Message-Id: <199609300138.AA08482(a)crl12.crl.com> >> >> >> >Subject: Re: [SPAM] More fan mail from Timmy "peteur" May >> >> >> >To: dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com (Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM) >> >> >> >Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1996 18:38:05 -0700 (PDT) >> >> >> >In-Reply-To: <FFi2uD82w165w(a)bwalk.dm.com> from "Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" at Sep 29, 96 07:14:50 pm >> >> >> >X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] >> >> >> >Mime-Version: 1.0 >> >> >> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >> >> >> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >> >> >> >Content-Length: 3442 >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> What has Timmy been smoking? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ]From paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Sun Sep 29 19:03:40 1996 >> >> >> >> ]Received: by bwalk.dm.com (1.65/waf) >> >> >> >> ] via UUCP; Sun, 29 Sep 96 19:14:06 EDT >> >> >> >> ] for dlv >> >> >> >> ]Received: from disperse.demon.co.uk by uu.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.061193-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; >> >> >> >> ] id AA25790 for dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com; Sun, 29 Sep 96 19:03:40 -0400 >> >> >> >> ]Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([(null)]) by relay-2.mail.demon.net id ac16129; >> >> >> >> ] 29 Sep 96 15:59 BST >> >> >> >> ]Received: from fatmans.demon.co.uk ([158.152.120.223]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net >> >> >> >> ] id aa09441; 29 Sep 96 15:54 BST >> >> >> >> ]Received: from fatmans.demon.co.uk by fatmans.demon.co.uk with SMTP >> >> >> >> ] id AA843903697 ; Sat, 28 Sep 96 09:41:37 +0000 >> >> >> >> ]Comments: Authenticated sender is <paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk> >> >> >> >> ]From: paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk >> >> >> >> ]To: "Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM" <dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com> >> >> >> >> ]Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1996 09:21:37 +0000 >> >> >> >> ]Mime-Version: 1.0 >> >> >> >> ]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >> >> >> >> ]Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT >> >> >> >> ]Subject: Re: Possible subs attack???? >> >> >> >> ]Priority: normal >> >> >> >> ]X-Pm-Encryptor: JN-PGP-P, 4 >> >> >> >> ]X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) >> >> >> >> ]Message-Id: <844008901.9441.0(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk> >> >> >> >> ] >> >> >> >> ]-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> >> >> ] >> >> >> >> ] >> >> >> >> ]> The lying sack of shit Timmy May <paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk> writes: >> >> >> >> ] >> >> >> >> ]> The lying sack of shit Timmy May lies again, as usual. >> >> >> >> ] >> >> >> >> ]Fuck you, >> >> >> >> ] >> >> >> >> ]I am not Tim May, Check out the return path if you don`t believe me, >> >> >> >> ]if you still don`t here`s my PGP public key signed by the EFF, they >> >> >> >> ]don`t sign keys here and there without checking ID`s... >> >> >> >> ] >> >> >> >> ]Type Bits/KeyID Date User ID >> >> >> >> ]pub 1024/5BBFAEB1 1996/07/30 Paul Bradley <paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk> >> >> >> >> ] >> >> >> >> ]- -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >> >> >> >> ]Version: 2.6.3ia >> >> >> >> ] >> >> >> >> ]mQCNAjH9j+cAAAEEAMBvREiQR0ot9dFCO0TiSCSunAYLv2g1Bc6I3bz8FzKXNH53 >> >> >> >> ]6mieJf/W4rD+CxJpT0q9RQaaoRtkHJLwbjfK2il3D7mEahMAyqvF/xRJNqkXfhM3 >> >> >> >> ]sRJM0Jh43l+W0M5vwokbEbk25/bxWWGspTsLD3YHbzKnG6pOcL5OPIRbv66xAAUR >> >> >> >> ]tCdQYXVsIEJyYWRsZXkgPHBhdWxAZmF0bWFucy5kZW1vbi5jby51az6JAJUDBRAy >> >> >> >> ]NwfvNkCBjDT0xHEBATQPA/9TORmN/UjNecj03q4anpvdyCLiez5sKuNbnYK50RiP >> >> >> >> ]Jj4QpWWvST3smyQ0A86DrZY/re056MXwQmARESx0rFZxdnD0oORICl5r8dJLIy3b >> >> >> >> ]j8rbA5olXwZwKz73/X5s13v/pvHYX4cIsbVK8NHXqh5llSKt6TBAuGgkIGF29z5k >> >> >> >> ]C4kAlQMFEDI3B9mdtf/umVkv7QEBcRYD/1FBteLqsUmr81euxqqnnrpLlyHb58B/ >> >> >> >> ]9sdATuua4uSjX46hXDZ264YozspNrzSB4NEdrmXOWVX3fiE0ga6XkSSkIeF23V90 >> >> >> >> ]En37Z0BdbFzgF00FRYTFyTq8eezQrdg/+rBPUsZUmG5wpq3e12FKHQsX01i+1mB2 >> >> >> >> ]YmqqwCV5e95eiQCVAgUQMh8uSb5OPIRbv66xAQEqJwP/fxQyiCasjFcbDpsFfsYp >> >> >> >> ]put5cCC/9pOx6X3DlbKShPMpUOS+A9HsTEmJQN8Iawv1nSwPdtc2cR/GhW6ilVjW >> >> >> >> ]LSloGdMVLabm9pGpZZMkRaZlXFUkOv7VhfgsUiL+vIDryBCAwUZCzQiWycjt/cPi >> >> >> >> ]mUqFH41Z7NkyO8ZFdi5GGX0= >> >> >> >> ]=CMZA >> >> >> >> ]- -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >> >> >> >> ] >> >> >> >> ] >> >> >> >> ] >> >> >> >> ]-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> >> ]Version: 2.6.3ia >> >> >> >> ]Charset: cp850 >> >> >> >> ] >> >> >> >> ]iQCVAwUBMkzuH75OPIRbv66xAQHSmQQAqw0F/lIsCcQwOpiSQDx4hMqOVVUVXbyR >> >> >> >> ]3RMWY20ECE0TpAtJ6hkAiqphsWUSBqiFj2kGHMh+jHSHXIMPF+m1qtwVbgutJC7B >> >> >> >> ]8VYWj0VP+bGu5dEUisLrVHDNj5ucEIDyK2GnqObiCiKARFUbOuZnMQOp9TDJqibh >> >> >> >> ]2Wqa5+h8R7g= >> >> >> >> ]=/M2U >> >> >> >> ]-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> >> ] >> >> >> >> ] Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security >> >> >> >> ] Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk >> >> >> >> ] Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org >> >> >> >> ] Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ >> >> >> >> ] Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 >> >> >> >> ] "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey" >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Fuckhead. >> >> >> >> >> >Fuckhead. We know your behind Vulis, Cock-sucker >> >> >> >and he swallows >> >

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Re: Thoughtcrime a Reality: U.S. Toughens Child Pornography Law
by dustman＠athensnet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Wed, 2 Oct 1996, Joseph M. Reagle Jr. wrote: > > WASHINGTON (Reuter) - Congress cracked down on child > >pornographers in a new law that took effect Tuesday, making it > >illegal to appear to depict children in sexual situations, > >whether in films, computer images or photographs. ``True Crime'' among many others

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Fw: Re: ITAR satellite provision
by Remo Pini 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Thu Oct 03 08:09:13 1996 - -----Begin Included Message ----- Date: From: To: jimbell(a)pacifier.com Cc: To: jimbell(a)pacifier.com Date: Thu Oct 03 08:08:42 1996 > >* A launch vehicle or payload shall not, by reason of the launching > >* of such vehicle, be considered an export for purposes of this > >* subchapter. > Okay, everybody, call Estes! We've got some crypto to export...er...laun > ch! If I get the above wording correctly (unicorn, help me!), it is sufficient to put the cryptostuff on a disc in a LAUNCHABLE device, it never says that the payload has to be delivered by air. So, just put that thing in a bag and get it through customs... (or does "by reason of ..." mean that the exclusive means of export allowed is launching ?) remo pini - ------< fate favors the prepared mind >------ Remo Pini rp(a)rpini.com PGP: http://www.rpini.com/crypto/crypto.html - ----< words are what reality is made of >---- - ---- End of forwarded message ---- - ------< fate favors the prepared mind >------ Remo Pini rp(a)rpini.com PGP: http://www.rpini.com/crypto/crypto.html - ----< words are what reality is made of >---- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: http://www.rpini.com/crypto/crypto.html iQEVAwUBMlNYihFhy5sz+bTpAQFnxwf/dvzBi/4wSb2IRUJfrpWGtIiHeq+BODKO p+4P1Lqqh5aPPyjI38I8M0d7/KBrpIHAveQ7UNo2W42WrDHgieFJV55c0H8Envj/ +FOJu9KLR9Z6bQ327jYjmKCTbfdveRiZQX++/4eSud+LMtkByCzLv8IsGPjvKeTw 6fBxH1Zq0EUJuOGNFUx8hCqe6IssYyrr99DLFisfxdAFBdo5lP0ujNzQ/ov4iqki qnFBugIViHikldzbq9e7KnASKP4RhkwAYpnJ85dlHCv8yJF3yjgItf6jSPG48/Xp PkNa4bfp3LhpCRD8AEus/RNxpds28mUIktDluWgHuqP9Gy0ZI9xmpw== =JOUm -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Party in Santa Cruz, CA, October 12th, 5 p.m.
by Timothy C. May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's an announcement for a party at my house on Saturday, October 12th, 1996. Cypherpunks and others are welcome to attend, especially those in the Santa Cruz--Monterey area, or even those from the Bay Area and Beyond who want to make the drive. The party is nominally a party for folks in another group I'm in (PenSFA--the Peninsula Science Fiction Association), but many of the Usual Suspects (Bay Area folks) will be there, including various Cypherpunks. Still, this is not a "Cypherpunks meeting" per se. (The October 12th date for the PenSFA schedule happens to collide with the usual "second Saturday" date for a Bay Area Cypherpunks gathering, but my party should not be confused with this general meeting. If there is such a meeting on the 12th, you can come on down afterwards!) (Apologies for posting this to the list, but it's the best way to get the information out. To make up for the bandwidth, I'll try to avoid posting any other articles today.) Last minute note: At previous parties, many have arrived "fashionably late." Unfortunately, my house is in a rural area, with no streetlights and few signs, and several people reported problems finding the place in total darkness. So, you have been warned....it's easier to find your way before it gets dark. Also, standard PenSFA rules are for people to bring some food or drink to share, or contribute $2 to a general fund. I'll have a barbecue grill set up, so items for the grill are a good idea. ----- PenSFA & Others Party, Tim May's house, Corralitos (10 miles east of Santa Cruz). Saturday, October 12th. Party starts at 5 p.m. Standard party rules--bring something to eat and drink, and preferably to share. A couple of barbecue grills will be available. 427 Allan Lane, Corralitos, 408-728-0152. Two cats. People are welcome to stay over until Sunday. I suggest you contact me early, to reserve one of the spare beds, futons, etc. As with past parties at my place(s), folks are encouraged to find things to do in Santa Cruz, Monterey, Carmel, etc. during the day. The Monterey Bay Aquarium is worth a trip, especially with the new "Outer Bay" exhibit (the biggest piece of glass in the world). A famous rose place, "Roses of Yesterday," is a few miles further down Brown's Valley Road from my place. Directions: Get to Santa Cruz on Highway 17. From Santa Cruz, travel toward Monterey on Highway 1 for about 8 miles. Take the Freedom Boulevard exit, just past the Rio Del Mar exit. Travel 5 miles on Freedom Blvd. Turn left on Corralitos Road. Travel about 2 miles or so, to a 4-way intersection. The renowned Corralitos Market and Sausage Company will be on your left. Turn right on Brown's Valley Road, and follow it as it turns to the left at another intersection (with Amesti Road, which is closed). Travel about a mile and turn right at Allan Lane. (It will be at about the "360" mailbox marker on Brown's Valley Road.) Drive to the very top of the hill. My driveway is on the left, and should be clearly marked as "427." My house is the second one in along the driveway, a Mediterranean design. There's parking for about 10 cars in my driveway. Beyond that, you're on your own to park further away. (Please don't block the driveways of others.) (A warning: It gets dark early this time of the year. It's better to follow the directions to my house when it's light, as there are no streetlights out here, and few other lights. I urge folks to arrive around 5.) >From Monterey or Carmel, drive toward Santa Cruz, getting off at the Green Valley Road exit. Drive east. Turn left on Freedom Boulevard. Drive several miles and turn right on Corralitos Road. Follow rest of directions from above description. We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: The Right to Keep and Bear Crypto
by azur＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> Steve Schear wrote: >>I'm not a consitiutional scholar, but it seems to me that since the >>government has already classed crypto as arms via ITAR and since the I am >>guaranteed the right to bear arms I choose to bear the crypto of my choice >>as part of my arsonal. >Tom May wrote: >I've argued since 1992 on Usenet and here that "crypto as arms" is a >potentially dangerous tack to follow. (Others, including legal experts, >have also argued this point.) > >Given that it is well-established, whether we agree or not, that the USG >may restrict private ownership of atom bombs, nerve gases, CBW weapons, >machine guns, switchblade knives, nunchuk sticks, and various other "arms," >the association of crypto with armaments is potentially *DISASTROUS*. Unless we get the strong support of the gun lobby and NRA. > >A far better strategy is to associate crypto with *speech*, which most >people seem to think has stronger protection. And, truth be told, I view >encrypted communications as a helluva lot more like a form of communication >than I view it as a cousin to my Heckler & Koch .45 USP. > >In my view, equating crypto with armaments is exactly what the USG would >like to see happen. This legitimizes their control of crypto. > I agree. However, if the forces of evil attempt to get GAK mandidated or begin arresting or harrassing those who would provide strong crypto it might an option. -- Steve

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