September 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

[Remops] cracker, redneck down for awhile (fwd)
by Eugene Leitl 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 11 Sep 2001 12:43:19 -0400 From: Andy Dustman <andy(a)dustman.net> Reply-To: remops(a)lexx.shinn.net To: Remailer Operators <remops(a)lexx.shinn.net> Subject: [Remops] cracker, redneck down for awhile SMTP is off at gacracker.org until things settle down. anon.efga.org will stay up. -- Andy Dustman PGP: 0x930B8AB6 @ .net http://dustman.net/andy I'll give spammers one bite of the apple, but they'll have to guess which bite has the razor blade in it.

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[Remops] Re: Opinions on Operations due to bombings. (fwd)
by Eugene Leitl 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:23:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Len Sassaman <rabbi(a)quickie.net> Reply-To: remops(a)lexx.shinn.net To: jlf(a)magusnet.com Cc: remailer-operators(a)anon.lcs.mit.edu Subject: [Remops] Re: Opinions on Operations due to bombings. I'm not concerned that the remailer network is, was, or will be used by the actual terrorists. What concerns me is the assholes who will inevitably send bogus threats, tips, and other noise to various news groups, federal offices, and officials. I don't want to get caught in the middle of this. I'm sorry. I'm currently unemployed and don't have the resources to defend myself. At this point in time, a free-speech argument will not gain much sympathy with the feds, judges, and general public. And investigators don't need more noise to sort through. They'll have enough as it is. I'd like to see remailers continue operating. But this needs to settle. I may put mine into middle, mix only mode if I feel up to it.. On Tue, 11 Sep 2001, J.Francois wrote: > I no longer run an anon remailer but I still operate a public proxy. > > By now everyone is aware of the bombings here in the USA. > > So, do we suspend anon communications channels during the crises or do we stay > operational. > > Opinions? > > > -- > Jean Francois - JLF Sends... > Once at a social gathering, Gladstone said to Disraeli, > "I predict, Sir, that you will die either by hanging or of some > vile disease". Disraeli replied, "That all depends, Sir, upon > whether I embrace your principles or your mistress." > -- Len Sassaman Security Architect | "I must play their game, of Technology Consultant | not seeing I see the game." | http://sion.quickie.net | --R .D. Laing _______________________________________________ Remops mailing list Remops(a)lexx.shinn.net http://lexx.shinn.net/mailman/listinfo/remops

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11 Sep '01

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L. Neil Smith On Morning of Horror 9-11-01
by Matthew Gaylor 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

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Re: BLOOD
by Jim Windle 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:52:07 Sandy Sandfort wrote: > >Folks, > >I'll be off to donate blood in the next couple of hours. I suggest you do >the same. With tens of thousands of casualties in New York, I'm sure it >will be needed. > As a Manhattan resident, personally unhurt though I don't know about all of my firends and acquaintances. Thanks for donating blood and thanks for spreading the idea. Jim Windle >Note to those in the Bay Area: I think it would be a good idea to avoid >BART--at least under the Bay--for the time being. It's a way too attractive >target, in my opinion. > > > S a n d y > > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

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From Manhattan
by Jim Windle 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

On Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:55:26 Ken Brown wrote: >> >Yep, just a flash crowd. The BBC web site is all but unobtainable. >Transatlantic data traffic is slow, but flowing. > >If you are in Manhattan YMMV. > >Ken I am in Manhattan. I can see a massive smoke plume from the roof of my building but the Met Life (formerly PanAm) building blocks my view of the World Trade Center itself. The smoke is also visible at street level down the avenues. Even uptown there is considerable emergency vehicle traffic headed in a generally downtown direction. Phone service is working but the system must be deluged as it is sometimes difficult to get a dial tone. The TV transmitters for NYC are on top of one of the towers so those are gone but I assume the cable feeds are still OK. The bridges and tunnels to NJ have been closed, the subway is also closed until further notice. The airports are closed to outgoing flights. Apparently police perimeters are being set up around the UN and other remaining potential targets. The stock exchanges and futures exchanges are all closed. The primary election scheduled for today has been postponed. The World Trade Center normally has 40,00-50,000 people wo! rking in it so casualties are likely to be very high, particularly as the upper floors of both buildings have now collapsed. The mood here is obviously tense but people are still going about their business. I have noticed a few people looking up when they hear a plane overhead. There is considerable anger as well as universal willingness to help out if possible. While Manhattan is physically cut off pretty completely there is no rush that I can see to get out (stranded commuters are resigned to spending the night most likely in hotels or with friends), nor any expectation of further strikes, though obviously the police are taking numerous precautions. All things considered it seem surprising normal, except for the visible smoke and extra high siren level, though tense, here, but of course I am uptown someone closer to the scene will no doubt have a different experience. Jim Windle > Join 18 million Eudora users by signing up for a free Eudora Web-Mail account at http://www.eudoramail.com

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Fwd: JYA's New York Report
by Bill Stewart 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

>Delivered-To: bill.stewart(a)pobox.com >X-Sender: jya(a)pop.pipeline.com >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 11:14:39 -0700 >Reply-To: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> >Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> >From: John Young <jya(a)PIPELINE.COM> >Subject: New York Report >To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM > >E-mail in Upper West Side of Manhattan is okay, local and national >TV too. Radio is out due to loss of transmitters on the collapsed WTC >towers. Our wire and wireless phones are on and off. Subways are >partly out. We cannot see the WTC area from the roof of our building, >so TV and Internet are all we got. I was about to leave for a meeting >in the WTC area when the news broke. > >Trying to locate a daughter who has a dot.com job near the WTC. >Many friends nearby too. > >A word on the structure of the WTC towers: > >The WTC towers had a distinctive structural system which utilized >the exterior wall framing for lateral bracing -- a so-called lattice >framework. This allowed minimization of internal lateral bracing >and opened up the floor plans. You can see the effect of that when >the buildings collapsed, with the lattice framework crumbling and >the interior imploding. The lattice works so long as it remains >intact as a system: if a part of it goes, then the whole system >goes. > >The planes punched holes in the lattice, one tower punched >on two sides, maybe the other too. Portions of the lattice of >the second tower briefly remained standing after the collapse, >then fell. > >The system was considered daring at the time of construction, for >it distributed loads more efficiently than legacy column-and-beam- >supported systems. Probably the legacy systems would not have >totally collapsed due to damage at upper floors, although floors >above the damage would have come down if columns were >weakened. > > >********************************************************************** >For Listserv Instructions, see http://www.lawlists.net/cyberia >Off-Topic threads: http://www.lawlists.net/mailman/listinfo/cyberia-ot >Need more help? Send mail to: Cyberia-L-Request(a)listserv.aol.com >**********************************************************************

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Fwd: Re: What's going on? World Trade Center, Pentagon,Old Executive Office Bldg
by Bill Stewart 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

INteresting exchange from cyberia-l. Mark was online earlier, and sent an article saying Try NYC traffic cams: http://nyctmc.org/xbrooklyn.asp >Sender: Law & Policy of Computer Communications <CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM> >From: "Ronald D. Coleman" <rdcoleman(a)GIBNEY.COM> >Organization: Gibney, Anthony & Flaherty, LLP >Subject: Re: What's going on? World Trade Center, > Pentagon,Old Executive Office Bldg >To: CYBERIA-L(a)LISTSERV.AOL.COM > >"Sterilized." No in or out of the City. > >Mark Milone wrote: > > > If anyone has info, please let me know what is the status of NYC > evacuation. I'm trying to get back to Brooklyn. I can be reached at > 212-935-6020 (the phone service is off and on) or milone(a)mindspring.com. > > > > - Mark

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Re: What's going on? World Trade Center, Pentagon, Old Executive Office Bldg
by Bill Stewart 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

At 10:22 AM 09/11/2001 -0400, Seth Finkelstein wrote: > "Warren E. Agin" > > I've been trying to get on a newsite, but abc.com, abcnews.com, > > nbc.com, msnbc.com, cbs.com, foxnews.com and boston.com are all having > > problems. Yahoo and MSN are up. > > I can attest that boston.com is functioning in Boston. Can't >say if you could reach it from another part of the country. > > > I wonder if the problem is just server overload, or something else. > > There seems to be some major links out of action. I can't >traceroute to cnn.com, for example. I *speculate* it's collateral >damage from the explosions in Manhattan. That is, I sure wouldn't hang >around to keep computer working in this situation. Highly unlikely to be physical damage; it's just slashdotted because everybody with an internet connection tried it first. The San Francisco Chronicle is still working because it's early morning on the West Coast; they're sfgate.com, picture on the front page, and the AP story is at http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2001/09/11/nation…

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Debt of honor
by keyser-soze＠hushmail.com 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

It seems quite a few have been making payments lately...eh?

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