September 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by Normen Nomesco 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

>Concerning the recently published Crime of Terrorism article: > > >I liked your recent commentary. And I hope in the posturing and mania that >is currently swirling, in our need, as a country, to exact retribution. We >pay attention, as a nation to these words. And perhaps question the >American policies, that have made us targets of terrorism. The American >policies and actions, both economic and military, that have pushed many >nations, no, many people to the brink. > >We must remember as a nation, that the horror and shock and loss we are >experiencing today, is just a shadow of the daily horror and shock so >called third world countries have experienced for the last 40years at the >hands of American interests. At the hands of the Word Bank, the IMF, the >UN, the CIA and the American Military. > >We must choose our next steps wisely, and if a "third world" faction is >found to be guilty of this attack, be cognizant of the fact that from a >certain viewpoint America's actions of the last 40years, our policy of >dictating, demanding, and if necessary debilitating and destroying smaller >countries, is nothing short of terrorism. And thus viewed, today's >attrocity while horrible, while unexcusable, while self destructive, while >dumb, is in some way understandable. Is human. > >It's what Malcolm X called... Chickens coming home to roost. You can not >strip others of value, others of hope, others of compassion, and not be >devalued yourself. Objectionalized yourself. Victimized yourself. > >So perhaps retaliation bombings by America, American retatliation on >foreign soil of enemies unclear, more innocent men, women and children >dead, while comforting to our ego, soothing to our vengeance, cooling to >our wrath... is not in our best interests. Breathes more terrorism, more >hatred, more martyrs. > >We have lost a lot of people today. And they, this mysterious, suspected >enemy, they have lost. The manner of their deaths tell us this. They gave >up their lives to smite their enemy, they died going forward, such people >are made out of horror. Too much horror, too much loss, and too little choices. > >So for us to respond, haphazardly, brutally, indiscriminately, again while >effective for our egos, is damning to our future. Because by creating more >horror, we create more of the people we strive to stop. We can not win a >war with people without hope. With people with nothing to lose. We can >not. We can survive it, but we can not win it. Because a man without >hope... is the deadliest type of man. > >He is a man without fear. > >Somehow America must start making less of these people and not more. And >maybe it must start here, with this tragedy, this horror, this loss, and >in the way we react to it. Maybe America must learn to meet the rest of >the world with courage rather than brutality, and reason rather than >rhetoric. We have to give our enemies hope, hope that they can be more >than the slaves or the slaughtered. Hope that there is resolution without >blood, and conflict without crisis. > >Hope. > >America has spent forty years of vaporizing hope, and the sovereign rights >of other countries. Forty years of killing hope. And we are producing >people both within and without our nation... school shootings, rogue cops, >political prisoners, serial killers, bombings, ... who are tired of living >without hope. We need, now more than ever, that hope. We need a >government... of the people, not a government over the people. America >keeps turning the screws on her own citizens, and throughout the world and >people cannot take it. America like a bully keeps pushing people, and >people are beginning to snap. > >A lot of people are dead. And someone will bear the guilt. But I think to >keep something like this from happening again... America must recognize >and carry her portion of that guilt. Her portion of the dead. > >These are the last days of Rome, and strength will not save America... >only mercy will. We must be, what we are not. What we have never been. We >must be... a beacon of liberty to other nations. We must care. About >people, foreign and domestic. We must care. It's the only way this two >hundred year old nation is going to survive. > >Gary Abraham

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RE: Terrorists attack World Trade Center and Pentagon
by Aimee Farr 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

> [ I wonder if these attacks are over, and what kind of legislation > we're likely > to see in response... --Declan] Perspective: "How ironic, that this is all happening under the shadow of the Statue of Liberty. Some of us may not have been born to see Pearl Harbor in 1941, but I can assure you that none of us will ever forget the attack of the WTC in New York City, September 11, 2001, a date that may become of more historical significance than we can currently imagine. Semper Fi," ...a New Jersey volunteer bringing "a pick, shovel...and a hard stomach." ------ Perhaps borders and transportation will widely field biometric and biochemical surveillance countermeasures. The surreptitious collection of suspected terrorist biometrics for border security, along with surreptitious polygraphing might have provided additional security, especially in coordination with intelligence agents in the field. (If part of an organized terrorist attack, our intelligence agencies *should have* their mugs.) That could have been an aerosol cloud full of blister, blood, choking agents.... Still, while we are all flying the flag, I just hope we don't forget what it stands for in the policy aftermath. To say we had forewarning is an understatement, and name-calling, retaliation, and yadda-yadda does nothing to address our intelligence and security failures. GAO reports critical of airport security: http://www.federaltimes.com/issues/crackdown.html http://www.janes.com/transport/news/jar/jar000616_1_n.shtml (It seems like there was something very recent, but I can't find it. I can't pull up GAO.gov.) I hope this will be seen as a mandate to engage in the aggressive acquisition of foreign intelligence sources, and a coordinated counterintelligence strategy. Human Intelligence might make a much-needed comeback. All we needed here was one placed HUMAN asset. One guy. ~Aimee

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Cryptography News: FORWARDED (fwd)
by Jim Choate 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:59:06 +0100 From: Jason <Jason.Gruber(a)btinternet.com> To: cryptography(a)wasabisystems.com Subject: Cryptography News: FORWARDED <FORWARDED ITEMS> +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | LinuxSecurity.com Weekly Newsletter | | September 10th, 2001 Volume 2, Number 36n | | | | Editorial Team: Dave Wreski dave(a)linuxsecurity.com | | Benjamin Thomas ben(a)linuxsecurity.com | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ +------------------------+ | Cryptography News: | +------------------------+ * PGP opens up complete encryption source code September 7th, 2001 One of the first encryption products is made available to all. PGP Security -- a division of Network Associates that has been criticised in the past for being too proprietary -- has made available the electronic distribution of its complete source code for the PGPsdk, its cryptographic toolkit. PGP, which was one of the world's first encryption products and a de facto standard for encryption, is the foundation of all PGP Desktop, Wireless and Server products. The release of the source code will provide academic researchers and cryptographers the ability to review every detail of PGPsdk's cryptographic features. The move comes a short time after the US government recently relaxed export regulations on cryptographic source code, Santa Clara, California-based PGP Security said. All of article. http://www.linuxsecurity.com/articles/cryptography_article-3637.html * Quantum Crypto to the Rescue September 7th, 2001 This week has been big for cryptography. It's seen both technical and theoretical advances in next-generation quantum crypto systems and technology. It's seen a prototype enter its testing phase that could send secret crypto keys through open air to a satellite or across town. http://www.linuxsecurity.com/articles/cryptography_article-3636.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com

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RE: Cyber Scouts Motto: Be Prepared!
by drtboi＠bitslinger.net 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

On 11-Sep-2001 An Metet wrote: > I suppose the repression shit will really > hit the fan now, so, are all the good little > cyber scouts prepared to do their duty? Maybe it's a bit too early to assume complete military takeover of the US. I remember, during the election debacle, rumors on the cpunk list that Clinton was going to refuse to step down and let Bush take over, and that instead, martial law would be declared, and the US would be taken over by the military. I mean, you gotta be paranoid to be on this list, I assume, but you don't have to cry "military takeover of the whole world!" during every crisis. > knows -- the US gov maybe engineered the > whole thing. Remember the Pentagon plan > to shoot down an airliner. Go watch Scary as Bush's puppeteers may be, I don't think they did this. But I know shit about same. > "Wag the Dog" also be sure to watch > the director's commentary on the dvd > version of that. Check out the novel "American Hero", by Larry Beinhart.

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Re: WTC
by Steve Schear 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

At 01:40 PM 9/11/2001 -0400, CDR Anonymizer <cpunks_anon(a)ssz.com> wrote: > > Silverstein Properties signed a $3.2 billion 99 year lease with the > > NYC Port Authority on July 24th, 2001. > > > > http://www.forbes.com/newswire/2001/07/24/rtr308696.html Wonder who the insurer was? steve

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Cyber Scouts Motto: Be Prepared!
by An Metet 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

I suppose the repression shit will really hit the fan now, so, are all the good little cyber scouts prepared to do their duty? Recall previous threads on non-internet dependant messaging systems. Work on the "parasitic wireless network", revive Fidonet in a new, digital format. And in the old string and tin can format if need be. Get that remailer code intertwinned with mojo, create a virus version, modify code red to spread remailers everywhere. I hope no one here is silly enough to think the BOR will survive this. Who knows -- the US gov maybe engineered the whole thing. Remember the Pentagon plan to shoot down an airliner. Go watch "Wag the Dog" also be sure to watch the director's commentary on the dvd version of that.

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Sospechosos probables?
by pablo-escobar＠hushmail.com 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

Gary Condit and his personnel could be implied like attempt to clear it of the front pagination.

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cryptorepression
by mattd 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

Brace,brace,brace...rogue nations are dangerous while merely wounded.Operation soft drills needed to deliver coup de gras.Not easy I know,and even more difficult now,but the last empires past its use by date.War of the flea now must become war of the killer bee.

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frequencies for monitoring (fwd)
by Eugene Leitl 11 Sep '01

11 Sep '01

-- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204/">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBMTO : N48 10'07'' E011 33'53'' http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204 57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:53:37 -0700 From: Strata Rose Chalup <strata(a)virtual.net> To: irregulars(a)tb.tf, fork(a)xent.com Subject: frequencies for monitoring LIMARC, long island: 146.85, (-, pl 136.5 to xmit) RACES http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/pscm/sec1-ch4.html Nationwide dedicated: Table 1 Dedicated RACES Operating Frequencies 1800-1825 kHz 1975-2000 kHz 3.50-3.55 MHz 3.93-3.98 MHz 3.984-4.000 MHz 7.079-7.125 MHz 7.245-7.255 MHz 10.10-10.15 MHz 14.047-14.053 MHz 14.22-14.23 MHz 14.331-14.350 MHz 21.047-21.053 MHz 21.228-21.267 MHz 28.55-28.75 MHz 29.237-29.273 MHz 29.45-29.65 MHz 50.35-50.75 MHz 52-54 MHz 144.50-145.71 MHz 146-148 MHz 222-225 MHz 420-450 MHz 1240-1300 MHz 2390-2450 MHz -- ======================================================================== Strata Rose Chalup [KF6NBZ] strata "@" virtual.net VirtualNet Consulting http://www.virtual.net/ ** Project Management & Architecture for ISP/ASP Systems Integration ** ========================================================================= http://xent.com/mailman/listinfo/fork

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