September 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: How to win the new war
by Howie Goodell 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

Tim May wrote: > > On Friday, September 14, 2001, at 08:53 AM, Howie Goodell wrote: <snip> > One example: the IDs for airplane crews, and eventually > everyone who travels or goes near an airliner, could be > "smart cards" containing their owners' biometric identifiers > -- like fingerprints, voice, picture, and retinal scan -- > cryptographically signed by the agency that collected them. > > You are not a friend of ours. This is such a leap into the Surveillance State Void that I am speechless that any member of our list, even Choate or Farr, could advocate it. Allow me to re-quote the end of my paragraph, and following paragraph which was the one I really cared about: > ... In fact the scanners could be designed without removable storage or communications links: after a few days they would erase their records unless they were read out after a hijacking. > This last point is crucial. Most of the debate about personal identification assumes there is a fundamental trade-off between being insecure and becoming a police state; therefore democracies have to settle for some compromise that is only halfway secure and only halfway free. This is not true today. Electronic and cryptographic technology like David Chaum's "blind signature" and "personal representative" lets us design systems with both strong security and strong protection of privacy and individual freedom. (See his August, 1992 _Scientific American_ article, "Achieving Electronic Privacy".) My point was that we should sell crypto as a way to achieve security. That's a product people are buying this week. Cryptographic protocols can square the circle; provide both privacy and security. So let's be imaginative and sell, sell, sell! These smart cards don't need to be connectable to your identity; just your body and a responsible party's signature. American Airlines and Lloyds put $1B behind my biometrics being one of an authorised class of pilots or plane cleaners. Who I am isn't necessary. Biometric scanners can be open source as well as unconnected. The signature on the card can be blind (albeit after a mind-boggling number of Chaumian challenges.) Databases of biometrics can be separated from identity and accessed through remailers. If we can get the bandwagon rolling our way, we have a chance to steer it. If not -- well, you're better at those metaphors. Take care! Howie Goodell -- Howie Goodell hgoodell(a)cs.uml.edu Pr SW Eng, WearLogic Sc.D. Cand HCI Res Grp CS Dept U Massachussets Lowell http://people.ne.mediaone.net/goodell/howie Dying is soooo 20th-century! http://www.cryonics.org

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Queremos que estes comunicado...
by MisProductos.com 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

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Queremos que estes comunicado...
by MisProductos.com 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

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Light a Candle, Sept 14th 01 7:00 PM EST
by <> 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

I know the list has been receiving a lot of 'do this, do that' recently, however I felt this was appropriate. -X Friday Night at 7:00 p.m. EST step out of your door, stop your car, or step out of your establishment and light a candle. We will show the world that Americans are strong and united together against terrorism. Please pass this to everyone on your e-mail list. We need to reach everyone across the United States quickly. The message: WE STAND UNITED - WE WILL NOT TOLERATE TERRORISM! Thank you.

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Re: Crypto-anonymity greases HUMINT intelligence flows
by Meyer Wolfsheim 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

Too bad that the infrastructure to successfully implement AP isn't in place. That $5mil reward for Bin Laden's head could be used by an FBI AP scheme, payable anonymously over the net to enterprising Afghanis. -MW-

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Carnivore Early Deployment
by Harmon Seaver 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

In light of the apparent widespread deployment of carnivore at many, if not most, US ISP's, without, I presume, any sort of warrants, does anyone know of any proposals for lawsuits against same by EFF, ACLU, or anyone else? This would certainly be an abrogation of civil rights for all of us whose email is being intercepted without even the remotest probable cause. I would think it ripe for a class action suit. I'm assuming that ameritech knuckled under, although I've not seen any announcements of it, but last night when trying to pop mail from their server, I was getting no connection for quite awhile, then suddenly I got a message saying the "account is locked by another session or for maintenance" -- something I've never, ever seen before, although ameritech certainly has had a lot of problems with it's mail servers. Then again this morning, for over an hour, the incoming stuff just stopped. We sent several test messages from various servers, none of them arrived until much, much later. Not that I'm paranoid, I seriously doubt they'd be monitoring my mail in particular, but I would also assume that any installation of something like carnivore would cause problems with the mail at an already rather fragile entity like ameritech. -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 hseaver(a)cybershamanix.com Home 920-233-5820 hseaver(a)ameritech.net http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html

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Shoulder to shoulder
by keyser-soze＠hushmail.com 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

If we allow the acts of those involved in this week's acts against the U.S. to diminish our Liberties than they have already won and any retaliation will anti-climatic. I can assure you that that there are many in the U.S. who love their Liberty more than life and are prepared put a bullet in anyone who acts to interfere with our "right" to communicate privately, keep and bear arms or be safe in our homes and papers from unreasonable searches. Any elected representative who affirms legislation to curtail our rights due to the "current emergency," any officer of the law who act to enforce these new laws and any CEO of a private enterprise (e.g., an ISP who shuts off service to anyone in order to deny them their private communication rights) have earned killing. They are little different than the Nazi collaborators in WW II. It is only by offering these cowards, with their misguided patriotism or who value their self-interest more than Liberty, equally weighty consequences to consider that all our Liberties will be protected.

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Re: The Enemies List
by chefren 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

On 14 Sep 2001, at 8:27, Tim May wrote: > On Friday, September 14, 2001, at 05:13 AM, chefren wrote: > > > On 13 Sep 2001, at 20:38, Tim May wrote: > > > >> On Thursday, September 13, 2001, at 06:22 PM, chefren wrote: > >> > >> Cypherpunks, I am forwarding this complete with names of cc:s attached > >> to show you some of the enemies out there. I've gotten several personal > >> e-mails. I am asking Declan, my friend, NOT to forward my posts to his > >> various lists., > > > > So why do you forward this to the cypherpunks list? What > > gives you the moral right? > > So that they will know their enemy. You are very funny. I have nothing to hide and the information I supplied was published a long time ago. It seems you live in a cardbox or something like that? What I described, is approved by almost all members of parliament of the pretty democratic country called "The Netherlands". Unregulated use of strong encryption is not forbidden yet, but we will see. If you just put people on an Enemies List and forget to argue you won't come far in a democratic country. +++chefren

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Re: MARTIAL LAW Cypherpunks and terrorism
by jamesd＠echeque.com 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

-- Dr. Joe Baptista > They are the symbols of a struggle that has been going on > for many years. A struggle against oppression and planned > genocide in which the United States has been a significant > contributor and supporter. i.e. Israel's oppression of the > palestinians, i.e. south africa, i.e. east timor etc. etc. > etc. > > Arabs are by default very nobel, trustworthy and honourable > people. But they are not cows. They will not bow their > heads as their civilization is brutalized and raped. They > will fight back with the vengence that is the holy jihad You might have a point if some of the terrorists actually had been brutalized -- if for example some of them were palestinians that had been roughed up by Israeli soldiers. They were not. This was not an attack on America for any specific things the American government has done -- it is an an attack on Americans for being being free and rich, while arabs have inflicted slavery and poverty on themselves, an attack on Amercans for being American. When two hundred US soldiers were blown up for meddling in Lebanon, the US government go out of Lebanon. The US public is not going to stop being American, and will kill as many arabs as is needed to ensure that they are allowed to be the people that they are. If modest violence suffices, modest violence will be used. If modest violence does not suffice, the process will continue till no arabs remain. --digsig James A. Donald 6YeGpsZR+nOTh/cGwvITnSR3TdzclVpR0+pr3YYQdkG 3t6naPZegDrRaTbM+ox6sVekeuRo+n/CtNeRqs+ 43Az2L+3CHnhDub/sVrxA+d8qvrcA6IgidF4t0EzU

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British cyberpolice ask providers to retain all data after terrorist attacks in the United States
by citizenQ 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

LONDON (AP) -- British authorities have asked all phone companies and Internet service providers to preserve communications data stored Tuesday in case they contain important clues to the identity of the terrorists who attacked Washington and New York. The National High-Tech Crime Unit, set up earlier this year to fight crime related to information technology, said data stored Tuesday may hold vital evidence about those responsible for the devastating attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon. ``By working swiftly to contact the communications service providers in the U.K., I hope that we will be able to offer valuable assistance to U.S. authorities in investigating the appalling events of recent days,'' said Detective Chief Superintendent Len Hynds, head of the London-based unit. The unprecedented request was made under Britain's Data Protection Act, which normally prohibits companies from keeping such data any longer than is needed for billing purposes. A spokeswoman for the crime unit said the request was merely precautionary, to ensure that important data recorded on the day of the attacks, such as text messages, e-mails and voice messages, were not destroyed. ``We are not looking for anything in particular,'' said the spokeswoman, speaking on condition of anonymity. ``Communications are routinely destroyed after 48 hours. This safeguarding of communications data is to ensure that any potential data is saved should it be required for evidential purposes.'' Saved information could be accessed only by law enforcement agencies, if specific legal authority were granted, the spokeswoman said. The move falls short of steps taken in the United States by the FBI, which is serving search warrants to major Internet service providers to obtain information about an e-mail address believed to be connected to Tuesday's terrorist attacks. Hynds said the cooperation of the telecommunications and Internet industry in Britain was voluntary. ``The decision for industry to assist us is entirely at their discretion and we will not therefore be asking for confirmation of support.'' -------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.siliconvalley.com/docs/news/tech/029760.htm posted under fair use law as educational material. ) 2001 KnightRidder.com

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