September 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

No Subject
by citizenQ 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

Reading the discussion I see that the amendment calls for inclusion of 'terrorist activies' into Title III which allows wiretapping under Court order, not anything about warrantless wiretapping. I did not perform all the text substitutions of the amemdment itself though. However in the language of the amendment all references that I read are to activities under court order. Please indicate the wider circumstances, particularly the warrantless circumstances, that this amendment allows cybertapping under, for those of us without your time or acumen in editing the existing Title III language. You also did not quote this: "One of the most effective investigative tools at the disposal of law enforcement agencies is the ability to go to a Federal judge and get wiretapping authority. It is critical in matters such as this. That is the ability to intercept oral or electronic conversations involving the subject of a criminal investigation. The legislative scheme that provides this authority, and at the same time protects the individual liberties of American citizens to be secure against unwarranted government surveillance, is referred to in the criminal code as Title III. Among the many protections inherent in Title III is that only the investigations of certain criminal offenses, those judged to be sufficiently serious to warrant the use of this potent crime-fighting weapon, are eligible for wiretapping orders. The law lays out a number of crimes deemed by Congress to be serious enough to warrant allowing the FBI to intercept electronic and oral communications. Title III currently allows interception of communications in connection with the investigation of such crimes as mail fraud, wire fraud, and the interstate transportation of stolen property. Inexplicably, however, the Federal terrorism statutes are not currently included in Title III. I have been complaining about this for a long time and this is the time to correct it." >>Text of the Hatch-Feinstein "Combating Terrorism Act of 2001": >http://www.politechbot.com/docs/cta.091401.html > >Discussion of the amendment: >http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/s091301.html > >-Declan >> >******** > >http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46852,00.html > > Senate OKs FBI Net Spying > By Declan McCullagh (declan(a)wired.com) > 12:55 p.m. Sep. 14, 2001 PDT > > WASHINGTON -- FBI agents soon may be able to spy on Internet users > legally without a court order. > > On Thursday evening, two days after the worst terrorist attack in U.S. >> history, the Senate approved the "Combating Terrorism Act of 2001," > which enhances police wiretap powers and permits monitoring in more > situations. > > The measure, proposed by Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Dianne Feinstein > (D-California), says any U.S. attorney or state attorney general can > order the installation of the FBI's Carnivore surveillance system. > Previously, there were stiffer restrictions on Carnivore and other > Internet surveillance techniques. > > Its bipartisan sponsors argue that such laws are necessary to thwart > terrorism. "It is essential that we give our law enforcement > authorities every possible tool to search out and bring to justice > those individuals who have brought such indiscriminate death into our > backyard," Hatch said during the debate on the Senate floor. > [...]

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by support＠simply-spiritual.com 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

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Cnet blaming Declan
by Lucky Green 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

This Cnet show keeps getting better. The host is now quoting Declan's article, stating that fortunately Declan's "affectionatos" are not in charge. And apparently an "An Metet" has emailed him a death thread... The host, David Lawrence, read the death thread on the air. This is on the air right now. Call (800) 39-ONLINE. Call if you disagree that strong crypto should be banned in the US. --Lucky [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]

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Re: The Winds of War
by Nomen Nescio 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

Tim May, a notoriously bad prognosticator (remember the "Thanksgiving Surprise"?) writes: > Here's what I expect will happen in the coming weeks: > > * a massive military attack on Afghanistan and possibly "rebel bases" in > many parts of the Mideast Yes, most people expect this. > * a series of hastily-passed new laws restricting communications (with > remailers targeted specifically because they by their nature are not in > "compliance" with CALEA) Very unlikely as far as the remailers. It looks like there may be some proposals for crypto limitations, but it will be a hard fight. Every interested party who fought last time will be dusting off their old arguments. Cryptographers like Matt Blaze and others have already made their intentions clear on the crypto mailing list. > * on the day the war begins, next week or in the weeks thereafter, a > series of raids on those operating remailers, those who have identified > these repressive measures, and those who have spoken against the > American Jihad or who have publically opined that the WTC bombing > resembles the Reichstag Fire Absolutely not. Completely absurd. You must have forgotten to take your anti paranoia pills again. As for the Reichstag Fire, for the history impaired this was an attack secretly engineered by the Nazis to give them an excuse to seize power. The implication is that the United States government arranged for the WTC attack! Only someone in the grips of clinical paranoia could make such a suggestion. Tim May is really losing it now. > * these raids will be done in the usual pre-dawn, ninja-clad storm > trooper way: flash-bangs, shoot anything that appears to move, put the > perps _down_! Right, ninja troops carrying away bespectacled, nerdly remailer operators. Here's a better fantasy. They'll hire $1000/night superhookers and seduce the remailer operators into giving up their keys. Both have about equal chances of reality. If the government really does care about remailers, chances are Carnivore is already more than up to the task. Cryptographic analyses have shown many times how weak the current remailer network is. See below for a list of attacks on remailers from the guys at Zero-Knowledge. Add in the ability to penetrate systems and steal their keys and the remailer network provides far from terrorist-grade security. Far better for the spooks to leave the network running and provide the illusion of security in the hopes that criminals will trust it. If they take it down they'll just drive the terrorists further underground. > * many of those arrested in the raids may not actually be prosecuted, as > even pliable courts will find little or no constitutional basis for > prosecution, though some fraction will die while "resisting arrest" (a > few highly-publicized "barricade situations," a la Waco, should help > with the terror campaign) The United States government has no interest in killing remailer operators! Please try to keep some semblance of a grip on reality. > * those not arrested, shut down, kicked off their ISPs, or killed will > be driven underground, or, in most cases, will "promise not to do it > again" and will meekly become the Carnivore Administrators for their > systems See above, there are better solutions to remailers from the point of view of law enforcement. Yes, Carnivore may be part of the plan, but there's no reason for the remailer operator to know about it. > * Robb London and Jeff Gordon and their ilk will be promoted to new > positions within the National Unity Government and will be asked to > detail their successful prosecutions of notorious cypherpunk terrrorists Even as fantasy, this is deteriorating... > * Congress will hold endless hearings reminiscent of the House > Un-American Activities Committee hearings. Activists and crypto > advocates will receive subpoenas. The media, even the newly-fascist tech > media, will villify them. Starring... Tim May, of course. It is sad that this once brilliant mind has been reduced by isolation and bitterness into constructing these paranoid fantasies. > * Someday, perhaps in 20 years, wiser heads will realize that shredding > the Constitution in support of some Zionists who pushed Arabs (called > "sand niggers") off of their lands was not a good idea. There are already many voices warning against weakening the Constitution. You won't have to wait 20 years for sanity to prevail. > War is coming. Against us, against liberty, against the Constitution. War is coming, against Afghanistan and other Arab organizations. On that part you were right. The rest of it is just your paranoid ravings. > If I stop posting in the coming weeks, you'll know why. Because you'll be embarrassed to have been proven wrong once again? === A few kinds of remailer attacks: Brute Force Attack Node Flushing Attack (aka Spam Attack) Timing Attack Communication Pattern Attack Packet Counting Attack Intersection Attack Denial of Service Attack User Reaction Attack Sting Attack Distinguished Message Attack Message Delaying Attack Message Tagging Attack

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Senate votes to permit warrantless Net-wiretaps, Carnivore use
by Declan McCullagh 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

Text of the Hatch-Feinstein "Combating Terrorism Act of 2001": http://www.politechbot.com/docs/cta.091401.html Discussion of the amendment: http://www.fas.org/sgp/congress/2001/s091301.html -Declan ******** http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46852,00.html Senate OKs FBI Net Spying By Declan McCullagh (declan(a)wired.com) 12:55 p.m. Sep. 14, 2001 PDT WASHINGTON -- FBI agents soon may be able to spy on Internet users legally without a court order. On Thursday evening, two days after the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history, the Senate approved the "Combating Terrorism Act of 2001," which enhances police wiretap powers and permits monitoring in more situations. The measure, proposed by Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) and Dianne Feinstein (D-California), says any U.S. attorney or state attorney general can order the installation of the FBI's Carnivore surveillance system. Previously, there were stiffer restrictions on Carnivore and other Internet surveillance techniques. Its bipartisan sponsors argue that such laws are necessary to thwart terrorism. "It is essential that we give our law enforcement authorities every possible tool to search out and bring to justice those individuals who have brought such indiscriminate death into our backyard," Hatch said during the debate on the Senate floor. [...]

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Re: The Enemies List
by mmotyka＠lsil.com 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

Has the fact that a disaster occurred changed much? The US was always vulnerable, now the general population knows it. I'm expecting war in the Middle East and reprisals in the States. There is not a great deal anyone can do about it. As for the fallout of Tuesday's events, well...the heart of the crypto issue hasn't changed one iota. Those idiots who are advocating bans and back doors are off in the tall grass as they always have been. They are promising safety that they cannot now or ever deliver no matter what tools they are given. Like con artists soliciting donations that will never make it to the people who need it they are trying to leverage a tragedy as a means to further their own businesses, careers and power with no regard for the outcome. Are these advocates of the erosion of civil liberties enemies and criminals? Sure, and they'll be fought the same way they've been fought before - in the courts, in the press and in front of a monitor. As for the talk of violence, I have no way, need or desire to sort the rhetorical from the real so I won't even try. Yesterday I was behind any action our government wanted to take, today, after hearing calls to increase domestic surveillance capabilities and learning that my keychain Victorinox is a felonious weapon, I'm back to my usual pessimism. I think there are far too many clueless morons in positions of power for the job of governing to be done well. I hope that I'm wrong and that there are enough truly bright and dedicated people to do a good job. Mike

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RE: A Brevital Moment (was..Ignore Aimee Farr)
by Trei, Peter 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

> Aimee Farr[SMTP:aimee.farr@pobox.com] wrote: > > I have never threatened a judicial official, or anybody else. I have > reason > to doubt my character in this regard could be placed into question. > > ~Aimee > I haven't paid enough attention to AF to be able to form an opinion as to whether she's threatened anyone. However, her second sentence is such a strange Clintonesque legalistic circumlocution that it raises questions as to just what she may be be tiptoeing around (possibly nothing). If her character could not be 'placed into question' ... 'in this regard', to just what exactly is she responding? Why can't she just make a clear, unambiguous statement, as in the first sentence? There seem to be at least 3 levels of ambiguity in the second sentence. A better followup would have been: "If you maintain otherwise, show the quote where I am threatening someone. Put up or shut up." Peter Trei

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The Register - SSL toolkit flaw poses risk
by Jim Choate 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

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The Register - This is how we know Echelon exists
by Jim Choate 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

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Ignore Aimee Farr (was RE: Cypherpunk Threat Analysis )
by citizenQ 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

Tim - Behavioral psychologists will tell you that the best way to extinguish an undesirable behavior is to IGNORE it. If Farr's posturings and baitings are truly to be made ineffective, the best course of action amongst the cpunks who care is to killfile the postings and refuse to engage on ANY level. Rising to the bait, debating whether such-and-such a purpose is behind Farr's postings, speculating on Farr's true intent, all this does is spur on the postings, the baiting, the provocation. Just say "no" to responding to ANY of Farr's postings, and I would almost put money that the behavior will extinguish within a week. On Thursday, September 13, 2001, at 08:39 AM, Aimee Farr wrote: > For the sick people in here that like to call for TNA's (target name and > address) for judicial officials etc. > > -- > NLECTC Law Enforcement & Corrections Technology News Summary > Thursday, September 13, 2001 > -- > "Technological Advances in Assessing Threats to Judicial > Officials" > Sheriff (08/01) Vol. 53, No. 4, P. 34; Calhoun, Frederick S. > > The majority of sheriff offices throughout the country > assign personnel to handle threats made to judges according > to which situations pose the greatest risks. Los Angeles I wonder why Agent Farr warns about our list "tolerating" bomb discussions, and then posts her own provocateur bomb discussions. I wonder why Agent Farr refers to the "sick people in here" who cite names of LEAs and then makes a point to cite LEA persons by _name_. Agent Farr arrived from _nowhere_ just after the election last year, with no previous detectable online interests, on half a dozen of the most "controversial" mailing lists and discussion groups. She began baiting and provoking, and when that failed, starting her own "Bomb Law Reporter" and attempting to entrap discussion group participants in what she has claimed are "dangerous" activities. She has recently claimed that our failure to support Big Brother-friendly networks makes us equivalent to the WTC actors. The witch hunt began a long time ago, but it has taken on new dimensions recently. Expect to see the real Agent Farr, who is very probably not named "Aimee" in real life, testifying before Congress on his "undercover" operations to shut down the Cypherpunks, PGP, and Extropians lists. --Tim May

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