September 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

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by Onlywinners 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

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Infowar: Muslim Student News list Tampering
by Matthew Gaylor 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

[Note from Matthew Gaylor: I've been getting the Muslim Student Association News mailing list (MSANEWS) for many years (it was created in 1991). One of their editors used to subscribe to my mailing list and he lived nearby. They went dead for about four hours this afternoon from about 2pm onward- The message below details their view that their servers are being tampered with. I tried to send a posting this afternoon titled "Anonymous Tip Web Link Now Available Worldwide to Report Information to U.S. Authorities" which came back with an error message. They appear to be up and running again. MSANEWS Home Page: <http://msanews.mynet.net/>, Comments to the Editors: <msanews-ed(a)msanews.mynet.net>, Submissions for MSANEWS: <msanews(a)msanews.mynet.net>, Problems with subscription: <msaosu(a)postbox.acs.ohio-state.edu> ] At 9:07 PM -0500 9/14/01, MSANEWS wrote: > many Arab and Islamic networks are having a lot of troubles distributing >information during these tragic times. We do not know if we're >being jammed, if the internet is slow (it almost came to a halt on >the day of the tragedy, as detailed in the news; Aljazeera.net >said the slowdown was worse than the day the virus 'red code' >hit). > >Your service, MSANEWS, has been receiving multiples copies of the >same message, empty copies of message, still receiving multiples >copies of the infamous worm from two months ago, etc. > >Your list, as well as others of well-known national organizations >have experienced a lot of technical problems for the last 10 days >or so. We have no clue about the processing problems or their >origins. > >It pains our hearts that we cannot distribute what you share in a >timely fashion. The horror of the second airplane still haunts one >of our editors, and it disgusts him as he writes these words. We >are extremely depressed reporting depressing news of killing and >mayhem for the last year since the start of the intifada, and more >now. We are losing our sanity reporting the ugliness of the world >(torture, imprisonment, destruction and mayhem). By Allah, we are. >And by Allah, we are just sick, sick, sick of all of this. When >will this all end? ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt(a)coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **************************************************************************

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by Onlywinners 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

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David Stern's "News alert" re: Israel and the Terror???? (fwd)
by !Dr. Joe Baptista 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

Source: Direct Submission Organizatio: Media Monitors Network (MMN) Email: mckhan(a)ureach.com Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:45:01 -0400 Title: David Stern's "News alert" TEXT: ----------------------------- >> WITH NO COMMENTS << ----------------------------- Date Thu, 13 Sept 2001 6:59:42am Email: "David Stern" <sternintel(a)hotmail.com> Sent-To: faisal(a)ummah.com, palestine-info(a)palestine-info.net, newsdesk(a)MiddleEastWire.com, irna(a)irna.com, webmaster(a)muslimedia.com, ContactUs(a)MediaMonitors.net Subj: News alert NEWS EMBARGO AFTER ISRAELI LINK LEAK Stern-Intel (Canada). A US military intelligence source revealed details of an internal intelligence memo that points to the Israeli Mossad intelligence service having links to the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks. The intelligence source, who requested his name be withheld, confirmed the internal US intelligence memo circulated four weeks ago described information that pointed to the threat of a covert Israeli operation on US soil to turn mass public opinion against Palestinian Arabs via an apparent terrorist attack on US interests that would give Israel the green light to implement a large scale military onslaught against the Palestinian Arab population. The 11 September attack has been described by experts as being too sophisticated for a lone terrorist group to execute. This attack required a high level of military precision and the resources of an advanced intelligence agency. In addition, the attackers would have needed to be extremely familiar with both air force one flight operations, civil airline flight paths and aerial assault tactics on sensitive US cities like Washington, Stated David Stern an expert on Israeli intelligence operations. The attacks targeted the Pentagon, World Trade Center towers, with the white house and air force also being targets according to the FBI. The attacks have certainly turned US public opinion firmly back in Israel's favor after 11 months of Palestinian uprising, heavy criticism of Israel over war crimes allegations and racism by a UN conference in Durban. The attacks serve no Arab group or nations interests but their timing came in the midst of international condemnation of Israel for its policy of death squad assassination of Palestinian political and police figures, added Stern. If verified, the news of Israels involvement in the US attack will come as no surprise to intelligence experts. The state of Israel has a long history of covert operations against Western targets with attacks on the King David Hotel, USS Liberty, murder of a Scandinavian UN envoy as well as espionage against the US during the Jonathan Pollard case. On Wednesday the US defense department issued a warning to its officials to halt the leak of information on the investigation which it says is happening on a daily basis since the attacks occurred. _______________________________________________ Contentalert mailing list Contentalert(a)mediamonitors.net http://mediamonitors.net/mailman/listinfo/contentalert_mediamonitors.net

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Re: "bespectacled, nerdly remailer operators"
by Incognito Innominatus 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

> > Right, ninja troops carrying away bespectacled, nerdly remailer > > operators. Here's a better fantasy. They'll hire $1000/night > > superhookers and seduce the remailer operators into giving up their > > keys. Both have about equal chances of reality. > > Pictures of three of these bespectacled, nerdly remailer operators: > > http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/DC8_Lucky_BDU_4.jpg > http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/rabbiGoneNuts.jpeg > http://www.melontraffickers.com/pics/DC8_noise_and_Lucky_hauling_hardware.j… Well, there are some spectacles in evidence... but the guns don't exactly fit the nerd image, do they. About the hot babe... would that be one of those $1000/night hookers? Maybe Plan B is operational after all. > Clearly individuals are enemies of the state. Expect the pictures above to > be broadcast and rebroadcast on the evening news after the SWAT teams > eliminate this threat to the sheeple. Expect similar photos of other > remailer operators, Photoshop touch-ups used liberally if required. Just post them to remops, Declan will take care of the distribution...

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Robert Fisk on Suicide Bombers (fwd)
by !Dr. Joe Baptista 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

Email: Nader Hashemi <nader.hashemi(a)utoronto.ca> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:55:23 -0400 Title: Robert Fisk on Suicide Bombers TEXT: The Independent Thursday, September 13, 2001 They can run and they can hide. Suicide bombers are here to stay By Robert Fisk Not long before the Second World War, Stanley Baldwin, who was Britain's Prime Minister, warned that "the bomber will always get through". Today, we can argue that the suicide bomber will always get through. Maybe not all of them. We may never know how many other hijackers failed to board domestic flights in the United States on Tuesday morning, but enough to produce carnage on an awesome, incomprehensive scale. Yet still we have not begun to address this phenomenon. The suicide bomber is here to stay. It is an exclusive weapon that belongs to "them" not us, and no military power appears able to deal with this phenomenon. Partly because of the suicide bomber, the Israelis fled Lebanon. Specifically because of a suicide bomber, the Americans fled Lebanon 17 years earlier. I still remember Vice-President George Bush, now George Bush Senior, visibly moved amid the ruins of the US Marine base in Beirut, where 241 American servicemen had just been slaughtered. "We are not going to let a bunch of insidious terrorist cowards, shake the foreign policy of the United States," he told us. "Foreign policy is not going to be dictated or changed by terror." A few months later, the Marines upped sticks and ran away from Lebanon, "redeployed" to their ships offshore. Not long ago, I was chatting to an Indian soldier, a veteran of Delhi's involvement in the Sri Lanka war now serving with the UN in southern Lebanon. How did the Tamil suicide bombers compare those of the Lebanese Hizbollah I asked him? The soldier raised his eyebrows. "The Hizbollah has nothing on those guys," he said. "Just think, they all carry a suicide capsule. I told my soldiers to drive at 100 miles an hour on the roads of Sri Lanka in case one of them hurled himself into the jeep." The Hizbollah may take their inspiration from the martyrdom of the prophet Hussain, and the Palestinian suicide bombers may take theirs from the Hizbollah. But there is no military answer to this. As long as "our" side will risk but not give its lives (cost-free war, after all, was partly an American invention) the suicide bomber is the other side's nuclear weapon. That desperate, pitiful phone call from the passenger on her way to her doom in the Boeing 767 crash on the Pentagon told her husband that the hijackers held knives and box-cutters. Knives and box-cutters; that's all you need now to inflict a crashing physical defeat on a superpower. That and a plane with a heavy fuel load. But the suicide bomber does not conform to a set of identical characteristics. Many of the callow Palestinian youths blowing themselves to bits, with, more often than not, the most innocent of Israelis, have little or no formal education. They have poor knowledge of the Koran but a powerful sense of fury, despair and self-righteousness to propel them. The Hizbollah suicide bombers were more deeply versed in the Koran, older, often with years of imprisonment to steel them in the hours before their immolation. Tuesday's suicide bombers created a precedent. If there were at least four on each aircraft, this means 16 men decided to kill themselves at the same time. Did they all know each other? Unlikely. Or did one of them know all the rest? For sure, they were educated. If the Boeing which hit the Pentagon was being flown by men with knives (presumably, the other three aircraft were too) then these were suicide bombers with a good working knowledge of the fly-by-wire instrument panel of one of the world's most sophisticated aircraft. I found it oddly revealing when, a few hours later, an American reporter quizzed me about my conviction that these men must have made "dummy runs", must have travelled the same American Airlines and United Airlines scheduled flights many times. They would have to do that at least to check the X-ray security apparatus at airports. How many crew, the average passenger manifest, the average delays on departure times. They needed to see if the cabin crew locked the flight deck door. In my experience on US domestic flights this is rare. Savage, cruel these men were, but also, it seems, educated. Like so many of our politicians who provide us with the same tired old promises about hunting down the guilty and, Mr Blair's contribution yesterday, "dismantle the machine of terror". But this misses the point. If the machinery is composed of knives and box-cutters, Mr Blair is after the wrong target. Just as President Ronald Reagan was in the hours before he ordered the bombing of Libya in 1986. "He can run, but he can't hide," he said of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi. But Colonel Gaddafi could hide, and he is still with us. Instead of searching for more rogue states, President George W Bush's reference to those who stand behind the bombers opens the way for more cruise missiles aimed at Iraq or Afghanistan, or wherever he thinks the "godfathers of terrorism may be". The Americans might do better to find out who taught these vicious men to fly a Boeing 767. Which Middle East airlines train their pilots for this aircraft? Indeed which nations are generous in their pilot-training schemes for Third World countries? I recall one of Iran's best post-revolutionary helicopter pilots telling me he was given a full course on the Bell Augusta (the Vietnam-era gunship) by the Pakistan air force, which itself paid retired American pilots to teach them. And if Osama bin Laden is behind the New York massacre, it's worth remembering one of his aims: not just to evict the US from the Middle East but to overthrow the Arab regimes loyal to Washington. Saudi Arabia was top of the list when I last spoke to him, but President Hosni Mubarak's Egypt and Jordan, ruled by King Abdullah II, were among his other enemies. He would keep talking about how the Muslims of these nations would rise up against their corrupt rulers. A slaughter by the US in retaliation for the New York and Washington bloodbaths might just move the Arab masses from stubborn docility to the point of detonation. Within the region, the suicide bomber is now admired. Not because he is a mass killer but because something invincible, something untouchable, something that has always dictated the rules without taking responsibility for the results, has now proved vulnerable. It was the same when the first suicide bombers struck in Lebanon. The Lebanese could scarcely believe that Israeli soldiers could die on this scale. The Israeli army of song and legend had been brought low. So, too, the reaction when the symbols of America's pride and power were struck. The vile, if small, Palestinian "celebrations" were a symptom of this, albeit unrepresentative. They matched the "bomb Baghdad into the Dark Ages" rhetoric we heard from the American public a decade ago. In the Middle East, Arabs now fear America will strike them without waiting for proof, or act on the most flimsy of evidence. For it is as well to remember how the US responded to the 1983 Marine bombings. The battleship USS New Jersey fired its automobile-sized shells into the Chouf Mountains, killing a couple of Syrian soldiers and erasing half a village. The arrival of US naval craft off the American East Coast yesterday was a ghostly replay of this impotent event. But to this day, the Americans have never discovered the identity of the man who drove a truck-load of explosives into the Beirut Marine compound. That was in another country, in another time. Today's suicide bombers are a different breed. Nurtured in whatever despair or misery or perhaps even privilege, in 2001, the suicide bomber came of age.

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Beyond Government by Harry Reid (List of global libertarian/free market organizations)
by Jim Choate 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

http://www.atlantic.net/~dwatney/reid/reid55.htm -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ natsugusa ya...tsuwamonodomo ga...yume no ato summer grass...those mighty warriors'...dream-tracks Matsuo Basho The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Feds: Atlanta May Have Been Target
by Jim Choate 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/aponline/20010914/aponline182531_000.h… -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ natsugusa ya...tsuwamonodomo ga...yume no ato summer grass...those mighty warriors'...dream-tracks Matsuo Basho The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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MATT DRUDGE // DRUDGE REPORT 2000� - German police confirm Iranian deportee phoned warnings
by Jim Choate 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ natsugusa ya...tsuwamonodomo ga...yume no ato summer grass...those mighty warriors'...dream-tracks Matsuo Basho The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Slashdot | Net Taps Without Warrants?
by Jim Choate 14 Sep '01

14 Sep '01

http://slashdot.org/yro/01/09/14/211241.shtml -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ natsugusa ya...tsuwamonodomo ga...yume no ato summer grass...those mighty warriors'...dream-tracks Matsuo Basho The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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