September 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

[Fwd: RFC: increased interest for cryptographic software?]
by Harmon Seaver 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

I'll try again, not as an attachment. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RFC: increased interest for cryptographic software? Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 21:55:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Herbert Valerio Riedel <hvr(a)hvrlab.org> To: <linux-crypto(a)nl.linux.org> ...hope this is not too off-topic... ...this maybe just coincidence and/or caused by other reasons (maybe some well read web referee?)... but it seems that after the US-event of 09/11/2001 the accesses went up for 2 prominent cryptographic linux packages; are we getting more paranoid? see loop-aes https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=28891 cryptoapi https://sourceforge.net/project/stats/?group_id=30957 ..any ideas? regards, -- Herbert Valerio Riedel / Phone: (EUROPE) +43-1-58801-18840 Email: hvr(a)hvrlab.org / Finger hvr(a)gnu.org for GnuPG Public Key GnuPG Key Fingerprint: 7BB9 2D6C D485 CE64 4748 5F65 4981 E064 883F 4142 Linux-crypto: cryptography in and on the Linux system Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-crypto/

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[Fwd: [FYI] (Fwd) Please make stable NON-US homes for strong crypto projects (fwd)]
by Harmon Seaver 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: [FYI] (Fwd) Please make stable NON-US homes for strong crypto projects (fwd) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 00:31:56 +0200 (CEST) From: Hauke Johannknecht <ash(a)ash.de> To: <linux-crypto(a)nl.linux.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- offtopic (or not) like the rest of the current discussion. i hereby offer mirroring service for projects on servers operated by different legal entities in different european cities on different backbones. projects interested in getting mirrored or people interested in offering additional mirror capacity, just send me a mail. please consider using PGP. Gruss, Hauke - -- Hauke Johannknecht Berlin / Germany HJ422-RIPE Use PGP ! -> lynx -dump http://www.ash.de/ash.asc | pgp -kaf - ------- Forwarded message follows ------- To: cryptography(a)wasabisystems.com, gnu(a)toad.com Subject: Please make stable NON-US homes for strong crypto projects Date sent: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 00:32:12 -0700 From: John Gilmore <gnu(a)toad.com> It's clear that the US administration is putting out feelers to again ban publication of strong encryption. See: http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,46816,00.html The evil gnomes who keep advancing unconstitutional US anti-crypto policies know that the current hysteria in Congress and the Administration will not last forever. So they will probably move very quickly -- within a week is my guess -- to re-control encryption, either by a unilateral action of the Administration (by amending the Export Administration Regulations), or by stuffing a rider onto some so-called "emergency" bill in Congress. They maneuvered very carefully in the Bernstein case such that there is no outstanding injunction against violating the Constitution this way -- and even no binding 9th-Circuit precedent that tells them it's unconstitutional to do so. They know in their hearts that numerous judges have found it unconstitutional, but they have proven throughout the seven-year history of the case that they don't give a damn about the Constitution. Which means it may take weeks, months or years for civil liberties workers to get a judge to roll back any such action. Not just days. We won the case, but they squirmed out of any permanent restrictions -- so far. The US government has a new mania for wiretapping everyone in case they might be a terrorist. There's already two bills in Congress to make it trivial for them to wiretap anybody on flimsy excuses, and to retroactively justify their precipitous act of rolling Carnivore boxes into major ISPs this week and demanding, without legal authority, that they be put at the heart of the networks. See: http://www.politechbot.com/docs/cta.091401.html Even more than before, we will need good encryption tools, merely to maintain privacy for law-abiding citizens, political activists, and human rights workers. (In the current hysteria, mere messages advocating peace or Constitutional rights might best be encrypted.) The European Parliament also recently recommended that European communications be routinely encrypted to protect them from pervasive US Echelon wiretaps. Some US developers, who thought such a reversal would never happen, have built or maintained a number of good open source encryption tools in the United States, and may not have lined up solid foreign maintainers or home sites. LET'S FIX THAT! We need volunteers in many countries to mirror current distributions, CVS trees, etc. We need volunteers to also act as maintainers, accepting patches and integrating them into solid releases. (Note that too many countries have pledged to stand toe-to-toe with the US while they march off to make war on somebody they can't figure out who it is yet. If you live in one of those countries, you may suddenly find that your own crypto regs have been sneakily altered. Take care that each useful package has maintainers and distribution points in diverse countries.) I haven't kept close track of which packages are in danger. I suggest that people nominate packages on this mailing list, and that others immediately grab mirror copies of them as they are nominated. And that some of those who mirror them keep quiet, in case hysterical governments make a concerted effort to stamp out all copies and/or all major distribution sites. If you aren't the quiet type, then *AFTER* IMMEDIATELY PULLING A COPY OF THE CODE OUTSIDE US JURISDICTION, announce your mirror on this mailing list. We freedom-loving US citizens have had to rely on the freedom-loving citizens of saner countries, to do the work of making strong encryption, for many years. We had a brief respite, which we will eventually resume for good. In the meantime, please let me apologize for my countrymen and for my government, for asking you to shoulder most of the burden again. Thank you so much. John Gilmore PS: Companies with proprietary encryption packages might consider immediately open-sourcing and exporting their encryption add-ins, so their customers can still get them from overseas archives. Or taking other actions to safeguard the privacy and integrity of their customers' data and their society's infrastructure. I also advise that they lobby like hell to keep privacy and integrity legal in the US. - --------------------------------------------------------------------- The Cryptography Mailing List Unsubscribe by sending "unsubscribe cryptography" to majordomo(a)wasabisystems.com - ------- End of forwarded message ------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQEVAwUBO6PW33O2fBh4VhzZAQEIbggArfO0y50rK1+thZDu7tG2IZbAIyTPjgf0 9B/Cwkk4eZ3QKa9RinvOMMkGtgcJkJdxL9JS/6pLCS0K9MTwGoUtqgLH3PywEohx 7l09NjSWzLYnWR+61tKFkddNNZB+/N9Y49iTH2XukwpYpvndL0b1JfzAGeYAOjr1 8r6g7jkG4nRcSnbnq1G+H0e93ZVza5V6ftyDUCXIVY8IXf7ja34eEa3uUJPr1Nga i7Xbf72q7v3oiUxO+epKI6+V+vEJE3wB31B+0os6klNU6RqpNh09tFU3/Ow7EK57 Ei17NbMEF5U2994sIHEMFcM1M3pcbCnWsVFBslg/S3Y59fYfjkHOwA== =FgzA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Linux-crypto: cryptography in and on the Linux system Archive: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-crypto/

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15 Sep '01

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Harry Browne and Why America Needs to be Broken Up
by Tim May 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

On Saturday, September 15, 2001, at 02:07 PM, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: > I fail to see any truly effective measures that can be taken to prevent > determined attackers from committing acts of terrorism. The only course > of > action, I believe, is to eliminate their desire to commit these attacks. > > Harry Browne's essay[1] points out things we could have done to remove > the > (suspected) motivation for this (and other possible) political > terroristic > attacks. Tim May has made similar points. > [1] http://www.antiwar.com/orig/browne2.html > Thanks very much for the reference to the Harry Browne essay...I endorse every bit of it. (I first encountered Harry Browne in 1973 when I read his book "How I Found Freedom in an Unfree World." I had just voted for John Hospers, the first Libertarian Party candidate the year earllier, the first year the new LP ran a slate of candidates. This was back, almost 30 years ago, when I still had a little bit of faith in the process of voting and democracy.) Not much I can add to Browne's essay except to point out that these united states are made up of people trading, inventing, building, and interacting. We refer to the "states," but even this gives too much emphasis to the role of government. The "state" I have lived in for 35 years is the sixth or seventh largest economy in the world. I ask you this: If California and New York and Texas and a dozen other regions were independent, libertarian trading regions, with no gunboats sent to rescue ZOG occupiers in Palestine and no armies sent to Europe to fight their war for them, and no police forces in Somalia, Bosnia, Macedonia, Croatia, Korea, and a dozen other hellholes, WOULD THE ATTACK HAVE OCCURRED? It's time to decentralize. Since peaceful attempts have failed, maybe other approaches need to be used. --Tim May

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Re: Crypto Access
by John Young 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

Blocks and limitations on downloads have been removed on Cryptome and JYA. We ask that bots and spiders be configured and monitored to avoid repetitiveness, looping, recycling and checking for previous downloads. Bandwidth trashing programs will be seen as attacks and blocked to assure access by others. If and when we get a compressed package of the collection ready for download we'll request email for the URL to grab the wad. Otherwise the rampaging idiot bots will shut us down before the Warmongering Idiot Bot -- which may masquerade as a loose cannon viggie.

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Noam on WTC Collapse
by Eric Cordian 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

On the Bombings Noam Chomsky The terrorist attacks were major atrocities. In scale they may not reach the level of many others, for example, Clinton's bombing of the Sudan with no credible pretext, destroying half its pharmaceutical supplies and killing unknown numbers of people (no one knows, because the US blocked an inquiry at the UN and no one cares to pursue it). Not to speak of much worse cases, which easily come to mind. But that this was a horrendous crime is not in doubt. The primary victims, as usual, were working people: janitors, secretaries, firemen, etc. It is likely to prove to be a crushing blow to Palestinians and other poor and oppressed people. It is also likely to lead to harsh security controls, with many possible ramifications for undermining civil liberties and internal freedom. The events reveal, dramatically, the foolishness of the project of "missile defense." As has been obvious all along, and pointed out repeatedly by strategic analysts, if anyone wants to cause immense damage in the US, including weapons of mass destruction, they are highly unlikely to launch a missile attack, thus guaranteeing their immediate destruction. There are innumerable easier ways that are basically unstoppable. But today's events will, very likely, be exploited to increase the pressure to develop these systems and put them into place. "Defense" is a thin cover for plans for militarization of space, and with good PR, even the flimsiest arguments will carry some weight among a frightened public. In short, the crime is a gift to the hard jingoist right, those who hope to use force to control their domains. That is even putting aside the likely US actions, and what they will trigger -- possibly more attacks like this one, or worse. The prospects ahead are even more ominous than they appeared to be before the latest atrocities. As to how to react, we have a choice. We can express justified horror; we can seek to understand what may have led to the crimes, which means making an effort to enter the minds of the likely perpetrators. If we choose the latter course, we can do no better, I think, than to listen to the words of Robert Fisk, whose direct knowledge and insight into affairs of the region is unmatched after many years of distinguished reporting. Describing "The wickedness and awesome cruelty of a crushed and humiliated people," he writes that "this is not the war of democracy versus terror that the world will be asked to believe in the coming days. It is also about American missiles smashing into Palestinian homes and US helicopters firing missiles into a Lebanese ambulance in 1996 and American shells crashing into a village called Qana and about a Lebanese militia paid and uniformed by America's Israeli ally hacking and raping and murdering their way through refugee camps." And much more. Again, we have a choice: we may try to understand, or refuse to do so, contributing to the likelihood that much worse lies ahead. Noam Chomsky -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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Sobran Column -- The Unknown Enemy
by emc＠artifact.psychedelic.net 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

The Unknown Enemy (Sample column) September 11, 2001 by Joe Sobran It was predictable. For years I've been writing that the U.S. Government has been making more enemies than Americans really need, all over the globe, and that one of these days some of them would have a nasty surprise for us. In fact it nearly happened a few years ago, when Islamic radicals tried to blow up the World Trade Center. But of course they made a botch of it and got caught. This time, though, someone pulled off what must have been an extremely cunning conspiracy, a criminal feat for the ages. They managed to execute a secret plan calling for four simultaneous hijackings of airplanes. Those who committed these coordinated deeds -- in spite of all security measures -- also had the determination to die in hitting their targets. This wasn't "terrorism." This was war. It wasn't a random attempt to scare people with an arbitrary atrocity, like the bombing of a pizza joint; it was a serious attempt to kill as many people and do as much material damage as possible at two strategic targets, the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. But, as I write, hours after the attacks, we don't know who is at war with us. We may never know. Who has reason to hate this country? Only a few hundred million people -- Arabs, Muslims, Serbs, and numerous others whose countries have been hit by U.S. bombers. Imagine hating a country so much that you were willing to cross an ocean and carry out an elaborate revenge against its people, killing yourself in the process. This is something far more than the sort of ideological anti-Americanism that leads student mobs to throw stones at U.S. embassies abroad; that's kid stuff. This is an obsessive, fanatical, soul-consuming hatred. Foreigners aren't quite real to Americans, and most Americans are unaware of how profoundly their government antagonizes much of the human race. We are easy-going people who generally have no idea how bullying we seem to foreigners. Until now, we have had no experience of what the U.S. Government has so often inflicted on others. Now, at least, we have an inkling of what it feels like. Government spokesmen have responded with their usual cant of "cowardly attacks" by "terrorists" who "hate democracy and freedom." Rubbish. A fanatic who is ready to die is the opposite of a coward, and nobody can "hate" such abstractions as "democracy and freedom" with that kind of intensity. It's dangerous to belittle your enemy, especially when his courage and cunning have already proved as formidable as his hatred and cruelty. The first question you should ask about your enemy is why he is your enemy in the first place. You may be deluding and flattering yourself if you assume he hates you for your virtues. But our "leaders" assure us that our enemies are unnaturally evil people who hate us only because we are so wonderful. And they manage to utter this nonsense with an air of tough-minded realism. True realism, on the other hand, doesn't mean blaming Americans for bringing these horrifying and truly evil acts on themselves. It does mean trying to imagine alien perspectives from which our government's conduct might appear so intolerable that some people might be driven to take atrocious revenge. "To understand all is to forgive all," says the French aphorism. Not true. But understanding all can at least teach you how to avoid making enemies, and avoiding making enemies is the best defense -- better than a $300 billion "defense" budget that didn't defend the World Trade Center. The great director Jean Renoir was once asked why there were no villains in his films. He answered simply: "Everyone has his reasons." Your bitterest enemy may have his reasons for hating your guts. You may not think they are good or sufficient reasons, but you'd better take them into account. If he has any brains, he may find a way to hurt you. The United States is now a global empire that wants to think of itself as a universal benefactor, and is nonplussed when foreigners don't see it that way. None of the earlier empires of this world, as far as I know, shared this delusion; the Romans, the Mongols, the British, the Russians and Soviets didn't expect to rule and to be loved at the same time. Why do we? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Read this column on-line at "http://www.sobran.com/columns/010911.shtml". Copyright (c) 2001 by the Griffin Internet Syndicate, www.griffnews.com. All rights reserved.] Those wishing to publish or post this column must subscribe as a publication and obtain a publications rate. Contact fran(a)griffnews.com for rates and details. Copyright (c) 2001 by the Griffin Internet Syndicate, www.griffnews.com. All rights reserved.

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re: Crypto Access
by mean-green＠hushmail.com 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

At 07:57 AM 9/15/2001 -0700, John Young <jya(a)pipeline.com> wrote: >The cpunk archives, Cryptome and a host of other crypto resources are likely to be shutdown if the war panic continues. >What methods could be used to assure continued access to crypto even if possession and/or usage is outlawed? Its now possible to publish web sites to Mojo. Perhaps we could work together on some tests uploads of your site? In the same way a number of people on and off the list have sprung into action to bring up additional remailers, perhaps we should encourage our circle of friends to download and run Mojo clients. >Post that info here, too, maybe, after thinking about the consequences. A> while back a list of global sites for accessing crypto was set up at: > http://jya.com/crypto-free.htm It would be nice to mirror these site on Mojo.

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RE: Crypto-anonymity greases HUMINT intelligence flows
by Sandy Sandfort 15 Sep '01

15 Sep '01

Meyer Wolfsheim wrote: > My point is that such an attack could occur > with nothing more than economic factors as > motivation. Of course, but I don't see how that advances any discussion of what ACTUALLY happened on the 11th. I don't think there is any reason to engage in a theoretical discussion when we have such a concrete event to examine. I'll certainly concede your point that evil can be done for pecuniary profit as well as ideology. So may we dispense with this irrelevant thread now? S a n d y

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