September 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

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Millennium - Operating System Directions for the Next Millennium
by Jim Choate 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

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RE: Zimmermann\'s shameful display...
by citizenq＠hushmail.com 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

I am enjoying, in a macabre sense, watching the great Rorschach Test that events have turned out to be, where everyone's own impression of the world is reflected in their interpretations to a much greater degree than usual. Everyone is acting like a bunch of assholes, snotty know-it-alls, children, and infantile technoids. And most of us are ostensibly more on the same side than not. It gives one pause with regard to the behavior between people who DISagree about these and similar kinds of issues. Aimee - is this predicted in your worldview? >Sandy Sandfort said: > >> Spineless "Anonymous" or "lain" or whomever wrote: > >>> Grow a spine, Phil, you jellyfish. > >>a) Anonymous fell for the oldest trick in book, he uncritically >>believed what he read in the newspaper. Missed my forwarded message >>from Phil, did you? > >There are two possibilities. Either Phil is a jellyfish or he's just >a naive self-promoting snake. In either case the best possible >scenario is that Phil is the one who fell for the oldest trick in the >book. He assumed the reporter would simply cater to his overbloated > >.... > > >And then there's Sandy. Sandy, I have watched you as a supposed >advocate of freedom, libertarian ideals, privacy, anonyminity, >consistently bad mouth about every anonymous poster on this list who >has anything of importance to say. I've seen Declan and Tim doing this even more so, but there are deep issues regarding the clash behind the theory of Reputation Capital and the Cypherpunk mandate that anonymity is an essential component of privacy.

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PGP author under fire for terrorist use of crypto
by Matthew Gaylor 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

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(fwd) [Oz-ISP] USG takes control of xpnder off PAS-2 (fwd)
by measl＠mfn.org 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 12:59:48 -0700 From: Rachel Warren <rachel(a)plur.net> To: nanog(a)merit.edu Subject: (fwd) [Oz-ISP] USG takes control of xpnder off PAS-2 I thought this might interest NANOG: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 18:11:39 +1000 (EST) From: Terence <terry(a)tdce.com.au> To: aussie-isp(a)aussie.net Cc: AusBONE Members <ausbone-members(a)ausbone.tdce.com.au> Subject: [Oz-ISP] USG takes control of xpnder off PAS-2 Well, there must be a big war coming up, because the US govmint just appropriated our PAS-2 transponder, effectively shutting down our regional operations on October 15. I'm more than happy for journalists to call me. I may be sympathetic to the USG over terrorism, but they can't go around putting AUSTRALIAN REGIONAL ISP's out of business... --- Terence C. Giufre-Sweetser +---------------------------------+--------------------------+ | TereDonn Telecommunications Ltd | Phone +61-[0]7-32369366 | | 1/128 Bowen St, SPRING HILL | FAX +61-[0]7-32369930 | | PO BOX 1054, SPRING HILL 4004 | Mobile +61-[0]414-663053 | | Queensland Australia | http://www.tdce.com.au | +---------------------------------+--------------------------+ Rachel -- http://www.plur.net/~rachel/misc/stock-market-nasdaq.jpg

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Sun Setting On Uncle Sam's IT Empire
by Steve Schear 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

[Note: this is a posting from Dave Farber's IP list. Dave has some interesting points to make about the decline and fall of IT in the US.] >The following is an article published in the Australian Financial Review >reporting on a talk I gave at the First Tuesday meeting in the new >IT/residential complex being developed in the Gold Coast in Queensland >Australia on 4 Nov 2001. There were about 100 + people attending and they >were highly interactive. A streaming video was taken and I am trying to get >it on line and available for IPers. > >Till then this article requires a bit of commentary by me to put certain >comments in perspective and to slightly elaborate on the reporters >comments. I have inserted then in [..]. > >Please also note that the article uses quotations that are snips of a hour >long talk and question period and that context and detail are missing. I >intend to produce a more complete white paper elaborating several of the >points I have made. > >I understand this steps on many feet but I believe what I said at the talk. > >As usual comments are welcome. > >Dave > >______________________________________________________________________________ > >Sun Setting On Uncle Sam's IT Empire > >Helen Meredith 09/07/2001 > >Australian Financial Review > >The global dominance of the American IT sector was in decline, with its >industrial research labs dead and the industry no longer rich, a leading US >researcher and academic told a group of technologists on the Gold Coast >this week. > >Dr David Farber, a former adviser to president Bill Clinton and chief >technologist at the Federal Communications Commission, said the US economy >was not healthy and the IT industry was perceived to be in deep trouble. >``We are seeing the passing of an era in which we did some grand >experiments. The net bubble burst with a vengeance. We had forgotten one >very important thing you need a business plan to survive,'' he said. > >``Now we are having a healthy dose of reality but it has taken too long to >happen. ``In what was once a rich industry, most companies have backed off >or destroyed their research. We are creating a lost generation.' [ leading >to the lack of new ideas and people to create them] ' The US Government was >going to have to accept that industry could no longer fund R&D. Innovation >would have to come out of the experimental science labs of the >universities. It would be up to the universities to generate the next wave >of technology, and to do this they would need government support. If this >wasn't forthcoming, the country's IT would be starved of a future. > >[One senior manager of USG research is quoted as saying that research in IT >is no longer needed since the USG can buy what it needs. My belief is that >it will most likely have to buy it from China and other counties who will >take the leadership the US is giving up] > >[ I added that there are several research labs left -- most notable >Microsoft and IBM and that Microsoft's was in the spirit of places like the >old Bell Labs while IBM was still active but increasingly obligated to show >a profit and thus tended to be short focused] > >Dr Farber stressed that the role of government was to supply money and >direction but not detail. ``Let the people who know how make the decisions >and we all know that no sane bureaucrat is going to take a gamble [ again a >broad evaluation worldwide especially parts of Asia]. What we need them to >do is invest,'' he said. The dilemma was that the bureaucracy lacked IT >know-how. ``The current Administration [ in the USA] is not hostile to >IT,'' Dr Farber said. ``It just doesn't quite get it. One of the things you >find out when you're working in Washington is that decisions made that are >critical to our future and that require an understanding of technology are >being made in the almost total absence of knowledge. > >[ I was making sweeping generalizations as was appropriate given the world. >Places like the FCC have access, not enough, to technical input but they >are one of the exceptions in a dismal picture ] > >``We [ the USA] are not alone in this. There are signs of the same thing >happening in Australia. You need to get down to Canberra and help >government know what the devil it is doing.'' > >The crisis in the IT industry coincided with the onset of the broadband >era. This was about to have a profound effect on society, in which the next >10 years would have as big an impact as computing did in the past 30. The >impetus would be the real arrival of optical technology, promising 80 >gigabits per wave per strand providing the bandwidth of the entire US >backbone on a single strand. > >``This will have a profound impact,'' Dr Farber said. ``TCP/IP >[transmission control protocol/internet protocol] will probably not survive >this. Packet switching is probably the wrong idea for optical networking. >Photons don't like to have things done to them photonic packets [switching >at high speed] look[s] extremely difficult.'' > >Running broadband to every house would pose particular problems for the >incumbents. It seemed likely that municipalities and cities would take on >the role of supplying data paths for their inhabitants, on the basis that >fibre was no different from services such as electricity and water. > >``More and more of us will be un-anchored in the future,'' Dr Farber said. >Mobility would be a key component of this. ``There will be a change to the >way we do spectrum. It has been wasted,'' he said. ``In the US we have >fenced it off, and done nothing with it, like putting barbed wire around >empty paddocks [Australianized].There will need to be some redefinition of >what it is to own spectrum, perhaps looking at something like the UK >approach to public access to land.'' > >Dr Farber predicts 3G will have the shortest life of any mobile system in >history. He describes it as the last of the analog systems, saying: ``When >you look at the prices paid, you wonder where they got their accounting >from. The 802-11 technology now starting to pop up all over the world would >be the foundation for 4G, becoming a ubiquitous wireless service.'' > >Dr Farber is the Alfred Fitler Moore Professor of Telecommunications >Systems at the University of Pennsylvania.

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CNN: Congressman pushes for more encryption
by Steve Schear 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

WASHINGTON--A U.S. lawmaker well versed in technology issues said Friday that government bodies and citizens should use more encryption, not less, to increase security on the Internet. http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7249721.html?tag=lh

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Worried about new anti-terror laws?
by Declan McCullagh 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

Folks worried about future anti-terror laws may want to read up on existing laws first. --Declan http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/798.html US Code as of: 01/23/00 Sec. 798. Disclosure of classified information 7 (a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information - 7 (1) concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or 7 (2) concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or 7 (3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or 7 (4) obtained by the process of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes - Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both. 7 (b) As used in subsection (a) of this section - The term ''classified information'' means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution; The terms ''code,'' ''cipher,'' and ''cryptographic system'' include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications; The term ''foreign government'' includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States; The term ''communication intelligence'' means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients; The term ''unauthorized person'' means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States. 7 (c) Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof. 7 (d) 7 (1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law - 7 (A) any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and (B) any of the person's property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation. 7 (2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1). 7 (3) Except as provided in paragraph (4), the provisions of subsections (b), (c), and (e) through (p) of section 413 of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 853(b), (c), and (e)-(p)), shall apply to - 7 (A) property subject to forfeiture under this subsection; 7 (B) any seizure or disposition of such property; and (C) any administrative or judicial proceeding in relation to such property, if not inconsistent with this subsection. 7 (4) Notwithstanding section 7 524(c) of title 28, there shall be deposited in the Crime Victims Fund established under section 1402 of the Victims of Crime Act of 1984 (42 U.S.C. 10601) all amounts from the forfeiture of property under this subsection remaining after the payment of expenses for forfeiture and sale authorized by law. 7 (5) As used in this subsection, the term ''State'' means any State of the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and any territory or possession of the United States. http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/793.html US Code as of: 01/23/00 Sec. 793. Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information 7 (a) Whoever, for the purpose of obtaining information respecting the national defense with intent or reason to believe that the information is to be used to the injury of the United States, or to the advantage of any foreign nation, goes upon, enters, flies over, or otherwise obtains information concerning any vessel, aircraft, work of defense, navy yard, naval station, submarine base, fueling station, fort, battery, torpedo station, dockyard, canal, railroad, arsenal, camp, factory, mine, telegraph, telephone, wireless, or signal station, building, office, research laboratory or station or other place connected with the national defense owned or constructed, or in progress of construction by the United States or under the control of the United States, or of any of its officers, departments, or agencies, or within the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States, or any place in which any vessel, aircraft, arms, munitions, or other materials or instruments for use in time of war are being made, prepared, repaired, stored, or are the subject of research or development, under any contract or agreement with the United States, or any department or agency thereof, or with any person on behalf of the United States, or otherwise on behalf of the United States, or any prohibited place so designated by the President by proclamation in time of war or in case of national emergency in which anything for the use of the Army, Navy, or Air Force is being prepared or constructed or stored, information as to which prohibited place the President has determined would be prejudicial to the national defense; or 7 (b) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, and with like intent or reason to believe, copies, takes, makes, or obtains, or attempts to copy, take, make, or obtain, any sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, document, writing, or note of anything connected with the national defense; or 7 (c) Whoever, for the purpose aforesaid, receives or obtains or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain from any person, or from any source whatever, any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note, of anything connected with the national defense, knowing or having reason to believe, at the time he receives or obtains, or agrees or attempts to receive or obtain it, that it has been or will be obtained, taken, made, or disposed of by any person contrary to the provisions of this chapter; or 7 (d) Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or 7 (e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or 7 (f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer - Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both. 7 (g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy. 7 (h) 7 (1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States, irrespective of any provision of State law, any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, from any foreign government, or any faction or party or military or naval force within a foreign country, whether recognized or unrecognized by the United States, as the result of such violation. For the purposes of this subsection, the term ''State'' includes a State of the United States, the District of Columbia, and any commonwealth, territory, or possession of the United States. 7 (2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1) of this subsection. 7 (3) The provisions of subsections (b), (c), and (e) through (p) of section 413 of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 853(b), (c), and (e)-(p)) shall apply to - 7 (A) property subject to forfeiture under this subsection; 7 (B) any seizure or disposition of such property; and (C) any administrative or judicial proceeding in relation to such property, if not inconsistent with this subsection. 7 (4) Notwithstanding section 7 524(c) of title 28, there shall be deposited in the Crime Victims Fund in the Treasury all amounts from the forfeiture of property under this subsection remaining after the payment of expenses for forfeiture and sale authorized by law.

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WorldNetDaily reports WTC-Pentagon terrorists used encryption
by Declan McCullagh 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

See also: http://www.wartimeliberty.com/search.pl?topic=encryption ----- Forwarded message from Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> -----

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Zimmermann's shameful display...
by Anonymous 21 Sep '01

21 Sep '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Sandy Sandfort said: > Spineless "Anonymous" or "lain" or whomever wrote: >> Grow a spine, Phil, you jellyfish. >a) Anonymous fell for the oldest trick in book, he uncritically >believed what he read in the newspaper. Missed my forwarded message >from Phil, did you? There are two possibilities. Either Phil is a jellyfish or he's just a naive self-promoting snake. In either case the best possible scenario is that Phil is the one who fell for the oldest trick in the book. He assumed the reporter would simply cater to his overbloated vanity and take Phil's representations at face value, report them accurately and otherwise refuse to impose any ulterior motive or agenda on those comments. Shame on Phil. Shame on the press? Maybe. The rest of us have to take the reporter at face value. He/she/it was the one who talked to Phil on this occasion, not us. Too bad Phil gave it the ammo it needed. Too bad. Pride goeth before the fall and all that. I am sickened by the number of people, including Phil, using the events of September 11 to promote their own agendas or otherwise get some face time with a camera, a mic, or a press and then pleading innocent later. At least have the stones to admit that your being a Machiavellian slime if you get busted. Christ. > b) Anyone who knows anything about what Phil has done in the face > of the threats against him, has no right to call him a jellyfish. > On the other hand, anyone who knows anything about Anonymous...oh, > that's right, no one knows anything about Anonymous because he > hides behind a pseudonym. Oh, I know quite a bit about Phil and I have met him and talked with him one on one extensively at least thrice. I have every right to call him a jellyfish, especially when he is being one and particularly given his former spinelike resistance in the face of great personal risk. That Phil is gone. Has been for some while. (I'll wager he doesn't pal around with you on a regular basis anymore either, Sandy). Dateline: Silicon Valley, "Programmer more impacted by the deaths of 5,500 complete strangers than everyone else." What a load of shit. How did he EXPECT the article was going to come out in the BEST case? And then there's Sandy. Sandy, I have watched you as a supposed advocate of freedom, libertarian ideals, privacy, anonyminity, consistently bad mouth about every anonymous poster on this list who has anything of importance to say. It never fails around here that you will attempt to use their Mixmaster expertise against them. That is the worse kind of hypocrisy on your part and I'm sorry (and not so sorry) that you don't see it. >> None of you spineless dilettantes deserve >> privacy or freedom... >Everyone deserves privacy and freedom, even you, Mr. jellyfish. Those who earn it deserve it, no one else. There is no privacy welfare program here. Even less so now. The government is not going to protect your privacy. The health care system is not going to protect your privacy. The courts are not going to protect your privacy. Anyone who believes there is some fundamental right of privacy recognized in the United States is either in fantasy land or has been taking too much Thorazine for the last 50 years. (Jim Choate, are you awake? Time for some Choate-o-grams on the bill of rights). A certain cryptographer PR maven of note once said "If McDonald's gave away a free Big Mac in exchange for a DNA sample there would be lines around the block." Sheep. Make your own privacy you lazy idiots, or get none. >> Zimmermann should have hit the lecture >> circuit... >Anonymous, please let us know where and when you will be lecturing >next. I have three talks in New York and one in Washington in the next 90 days. >I'm sure we would all like attend one of your inspiring talks so >that >we can learn how to be free by your example. I'm sure you would like to, but I doubt you have gotten an invitation to any of the three invitation only events. >Give me a break. You do not deserve one, at least not if you are as much of an armchair "freedom fighter" as you appear in these eyes to be. Sure, I have no doubt there are a series of Zimmermann apologists here. I have little doubt that they will rush to Phil's aid. That doesn't change the basic fact that Phil, like some kind of high school graduate sports celebrity who has recently decided they are a foreign policy expert and should be commenting to anyone who will listen on the fate of Tibet or some other horseshit, decided he would chime in about his own personal connection to September 11th. What a big man everyone will think he is. Please. Whine whine, the reporter misquoted me. Spare me. Surprise, surprise he got burned (or didn't and is even more spineless to shrink away from the backfire of his PR tactic). I have no sympathy either way. I have no respect for that kind of behavior. Nor should I. Despite the cute dissection of the article on this list by Zimmermann Apologist #2 that reporter did not simply "make up" the guilt line. Certainly, some liberities might have been taken with poor-ole-harmless-Phil's dicussion (then again they may not have been), but Zimmermann egged on the press. He got what he deserved if he was misquoted as badly as represented here (which I doubt). Grow a spine cypherpunks. Do something real. Attempting to snow reporters to get yourself some press is not "something real." - -lain -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.0.1 iQA/AwUBO6u/cv6o0E6piE+3EQLwogCglIRVXUd+CCfPLEzJP2o8cUccl1cAn2Zi cb9vl+POmhOsPjF7V7Wx4eVQ =L734 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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