September 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

IP: Do read -- EFF statement on opposition to MATA/ATA (fwd)
by Eugene Leitl 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

-- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204/">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBMTO: N48 04'14.8'' E11 36'41.2'' http://www.lrz.de/~ui22204 57F9CFD3: ED90 0433 EB74 E4A9 537F CFF5 86E7 629B 57F9 CFD3 ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 06:25:50 -0400 From: David Farber <dave(a)farber.net> Reply-To: farber(a)cis.upenn.edu To: ip-sub-1(a)majordomo.pobox.com Subject: IP: Do read -- EFF statement on opposition to MATA/ATA >EFF members have asked why we have objected to some of the proposed >changes to wiretapping and other laws made in the aftermath of the recent >terrorist attacks on the U.S. We do not raise these objections lightly, >not are they light objections. We fully support legitimate government >efforts to bring the perpetrators of these attacks to justice. Yet as a >watchdog for civil liberties, we are skeptical of claims that the only way >we can increase our security is by giving up our freedoms. And a close >look at the specific measures proposed shows several areas that should >concern all Americans. > >First, these bills are not being carefully reviewed, or even reviewed at >all, by our lawmakers. SA 1562 was introduced late at night and voted on >within a half hour, with several senators complaining that they had not >been given the chance to read it. Similarly, both MATA and its later >incarnation, ATA, are long and complex bills, making changes throughout >our legal structure. Yet the Attorney General has asked for them to be >voted into law within a week. This complete dismissal of the normal >processes for legislation should alarm anyone who believes in democratic >government. > >Second, these changes are permanent. EFF shares the desire to move >quickly now in order to better track the perpetrators of this shocking >attack. But none of the legislative changes that have been proposed so >far is temporary -- these are broad ranging, permanent reductions in civil >liberties and privacy of all Americans. History has shown that such laws, >passed in haste during a time of crisis, linger and cause difficulties >long after the crisis has passed. > >Third, these proposed laws include provisions that appear to have nothing >to do with fighting terrorism, such as allowing wiretaps based upon >allegations of defacing a web site. If it is the case that low-level >computer defacement is a problem that relates to terrorism, we encourage >law enforcement to explain the connection. Instead, it seems that several >of the most worrisome provisions of the proposed laws are part of a >general law enforcement "wish list" rather than a specific response to >terrorism. > >Finally, changes in surveillance authority are suggested without any >showing that the current requirements for FISA, Title III and pen/trap >surveillance posed a barrier to the investigation of the attacks. We have >been told that FISA warrants were issued and served on major ISPs within >hours of the terrorist attacks last week. There have been no reports that >the minimal processes required for these warrants have hampered the >investigations. > >The EFF does not categorically oppose all changes in our laws or >regulations in response to the attack. But responses that are unrelated >to increasing our security or that change parts of the laws that are not a >barrier to preventing of terrorism are not only bad policy, they run the >risk of lulling us into believing that we are more safe than we actually >are. The EFF does not claim to be experts in anti-terrorism measures. We >are experts in civil liberties and privacy, however, and believe that any >lessening of those rights must be carefully debated and adequately justified. > >The U.S. legal system has been based upon the basic precept that American >citizens should not be subject to surveillance unless there has been a >showing that he or she may have committed a serious offense. Maybe we now >wish abandon that precept. Maybe we now wish to live in a world where who >we e-mail and where we travel on the Internet is routinely monitored by >centralized government authorities. We at the EFF do not believe so. But >at a minimum, such changes must be subjected to informed public debate. > >On September 11, President Bush said that freedom itself had been >attacked. In our response to that horrible act, the understandable desire >to prevent future attacks should not lead us to do further, permanent >damage that same freedom. For archives see: http://www.interesting-people.org/

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ADV: I bet that I make more money in the Web design business than you do. Time:4:12:33 AM
by webmaster0875＠yahoo.com 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

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branding war:pentagon changing operation's codename
by pseudolicious 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

winston churchill once said: <"Operations in which large numbers of men may lose their lives ought not to be described by code words which imply a boastful or overconfident sentiment."> -------- GOVERNMENT TRIPPING OVER RELIGIOUS RHETORIC=BY SARAH LUBMAN SJMercury News For the second time in less than a week, the U.S. government had damage control to do because of its religion-infused rhetoric. The Pentagon on Thursday backed away from the code name for its anti-terrorist offensive, ``Operation Infinite Justice,'' for fear of offending Muslims. /.../ Objections to ``Infinite Justice'' came up at a Pentagon briefing on Thursday. A reporter told Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld that several Islamic scholars took issue with the term, saying that infinite justice resides only with God, or Allah. /.../ The American military, following German practice, began naming its military operations during World War II. In 1942, the Joint Chiefs of Staff approved an index of code words that are randomly assigned for each operation. The first word refers to the operation's region -- e.g., ``desert'' for the Middle East -- and the second often connotes some kind of resolve. Winston Churchill was fascinated with code names and had his own thoughts on the matter, according to a 1995 article on the history of naming operations in Parameters, a U.S. Army War College quarterly. Churchill instructed that operation names shouldn't be silly: They should not ``enable some widow or mother to say that her son was killed in an operation called `Bunnyhug' or `Ballyhoo.' '' /.../ http://www0.mercurycenter.com/partners/docs/003925.htm Posted at 11:03 p.m. PDT Thursday, Sept. 20, 2001

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The most authoritative Wine & Spirit Trade Fair in China
by Sino333＠toad.com 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

China(Zhuhai) International Wine & Spirits Trade Fair http://www.sino333.com

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by Taylor Enterprises 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

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Email snarfing
by mean-green＠hushmail.com 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

I've recently encountered a number of email problems (delayed delivery, lost mail, etc.) both from my pop accounts and Hush. I'm not trying to be paranoid but could these be caused by problems of TLA-installed transparent SMTP, POP, and HTTP proxies at ISP's in a man-in-the-middle mode, so that they'd be sure to see all traffic, because Carnivore's storage capacity is pretty limited? Also, if missing email causes a sender to re-transmit the same message could this expose the message to some sort of replay-resend attack if the crypto isn't well coded?

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Re: Preparedness
by auto301094＠hushmail.com 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Tim wrote: >This confusion and chaos was pretty much anticipated by Y2K worriers: >had anything disrupted transport or communications, D.C. looked to be in >bad shape. (I recall comparisons made to Montgomery County, which had >some problems with emergency systems, but seemed much better prepared. Not just by Y2K worriers, it was also anticipated in the late 60s by analysts exploring the possible use of EMP effects as an effective and non-violent strategic weapon. Here's a great quote: "Targeting only the technology is an interesting concept but who the hell is going to pay you to research it? The Pentagon knows that without just its phone system it would be the ultimate Chinese fire drill. They're not about to offer prizes for the ten easiest ways to destroy the systems they too need to survive. These things get around...." -- Herman Kahn Rather prophetic, I think. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: Hush 2.0 wl8EARECAB8FAjutC3QYHGF1dG8zMDEwOTRAaHVzaG1haWwuY29tAAoJEKadvsVlUK4P 3fAAoLL38Nz35D/4d5GA6WAG858f3zyQAKCAWPaedaNJ5rnGVd3YFQEb+e3mBA== =f4JZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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WTC Attack Benefits Long Beach Ca Police -Anarchists Giving Up Legal Fight
by Subcommander Bob 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

[Reformatted for legibility. Please, if you're going to forward content, take the minute or so required to ensure it's readable. KMSelf] http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-000075995sep22.story?coll=la%2Dheadlin… Anarchists Giving Up Legal Fight Court: Some charged in a riot plead no contest amid doubts they could get a fair hearing after the terrorist attacks. Others may go to trial. By LOUIS SAHAGUN, TIMES STAFF WRITER Last week's terrorism attacks on the East Coast have complicated--and, in some cases, derailed--the trials of dozens of anarchists arrested in a violent May Day confrontation with Long Beach police. The anarchists previously had been upbeat about their imminent trials, which they had hoped to turn into public forums for their radical political sentiments. Now, defense attorneys wonder if their 37 fiercely anti-capitalist clients can get a fair trial in Long Beach or anywhere else on such counts as riot, attempted riot, unlawful assembly, and conspiracy to commit a crime. Over the past week, six defendants who had promised to challenge police tactics instead have pleaded no contest or guilty to misdemeanor charges. More pleas are expected, according to deputy city prosecutor David Gordon. "When Sept. 11 occurred, they realized that no one would pay much attention to claims of police misconduct while hundreds of officers lay buried in rubble in New York," he said. "I think that by early November there will be but a handful of hard cores left wanting to go to trial." Until last week, the demonstrators had predicted exoneration, claiming they were victims of police brutality. Beyond that, they stressed that identification would be difficult because all of them had been wearing masks and black clothes in downtown Long Beach during the May 1 rally decrying corporate greed. In addition, they pointed to a federal judge's recent ruling that questioned the validity of a city law requiring 30 days' notice for a public demonstration. Now such optimism has vanished, according to one prospective expert witness for the defense, Larry George, a professor of political science at Cal State Long Beach. "The tragic events," George said, "may well have changed the background climate to the point where the defendants would be identified as enemies of the state and perpetrators of violence." About 95 people, mainly teenagers and young adults from Southern California, were arrested during the protest that erupted into a running street brawl with police in riot gear. At least a dozen demonstrators were injured, and many more reportedly suffered scrapes and bruises. Police said their officers escaped serious injuries, but some were bruised and cut by thrown rocks and grappling with demonstrators. To avoid sapping the city's legal resources if all the defendants were tried simultaneously in one courtroom, authorities divided them into small groups to be tried separately and appointed publicly financed defense attorneys. Long before the East Coast terrorism, 23 of those arrested in the demonstration were sentenced to probation and time served under plea bargains offered to them by city prosecutors. In addition, more than two dozen juveniles were released and most had the charges dropped. Two other adults are awaiting trial on felony assault charges. As of Friday, 31 more were each facing six misdemeanor charges. The first two defendants to go to trial were Louise Emily Van Der Laan, 19, and Yutaka Bazil Yokoyama, 31, both of whom pleaded no contest on Sept. 12 to six misdemeanor counts just after a jury was impaneled. Superior Court Judge Brad Andrews sentenced them to three years' probation and 30 days of community service. Their pleadings came less than an hour after Andrews dismissed a motion by defense attorney Lynda Vitale to delay the case for at least a month. "The events of Sept. 11," Vitale said in an interview, "would have made it impossible for jurors to remain unbiased and fairly weigh the evidence without thoughts of what happened." Next in line for trial is Christopher J. Harrington, who is represented by Torrance lawyer Alex Griggs. "These people were exercising their rights to free speech," Griggs said. "It would be a shame if the current climate is such that they are curtailed from doing that." Nonetheless, Griggs said his client, whose trial is scheduled to start Oct. 10, is considering the implications of avoiding trial by entering a plea. On Thursday, four other defendants pleaded no contest to at least one misdemeanor charge. Among them was Adam Steudle, 20, whose Culver City attorney Noah Allen conceded, "There's a huge fear that the events of Sept. 11 had a domino effect on jurors." The defendants insist that their goal was a peaceful downtown demonstration and march on International Workers Day behind a large banner that read: "Capitalism Stole My Life." The trouble started after some demonstrators, chanting and cursing against "the police state," threw rocks at officers, according to police. "The rocks got it going," recalled Long Beach Police Sgt. Erik Herzog. Downtown streets were shut down for four hours as police fired on some demonstrators with rubber bullets and beanbags while chasing them in and around an area known for its high-end bistros, financial institutions and hotels. Law enforcement authorities said it cost the city $100,000 in overtime pay and the use of equipment, including a helicopter, to handle the disruption. At the scene, police collected evidence including rocks, hammers, a slingshot, bags of ball bearings, pointed sticks, gas masks, plastic bags filled with human feces, bombs used by fishermen to scare off seals, and fireworks, including one item that resembled a hand grenade. Police said they also determined that some of the demonstrators had arrived wearing crude shields under their baggy black sweaters and sweat shirts: thick layers of newspaper wrapped in duct tape and strapped around their arms and over their chests. Critical to the prosecution have been 500 photographs and 14 hours of videotaped footage of the demonstration taken by police and witnesses in the vicinity of the bustling corner of 1st Street and Pine Avenue. Deputy city prosecutor Andrea Davalos said, "We went over details in the photos and video footage, frame by frame, over and over, 12 hours a day, Saturdays and Sundays. "We noted people's backpacks, shirts, logos, shoes, even the tears in their jeans," she said. "Eventually, we were able to make positive identification of each and every one of them. We know what each of them did and when they did it." Prosecutors matched that information with photographs of suspects when they were in custody and unmasked. City prosecutor Tom Reeves plans to play an edited version of the videotape in court, including slow-motion scenes of rocks being hurled at police. "They conspired to come to this city armed and disguised for the purpose of creating a riot, chaos and disorder," Gordon said. "But now there are too many ghosts floating around in the courtroom for anyone with half a brain to expose themselves to a jury or a judge." In the meantime, local support for the anarchists has been mixed. Mark Bowen, a Los Angeles Unified School District high school teacher and president of the Long Beach chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union, remains skeptical of local police. It was not a crime, he said, if demonstrators cursed at police and carried signs denouncing the influence of multinational corporations. "The police were beating the anarchists with clubs, and I would not rule out the possibility that they planted evidence," Bowen said. Sharon Cotrell of the Long Beach Legal Monitoring Committee said the defendants have been "forced by circumstances to plead, which is very sad," she said. "These young people did no wrong. The police were outrageous." Some other observers are not so sure. Until Sept. 11, members of the Unitarian Universalist Church of Long Beach had been considering a proposal to back the defendants. But Pat Marr, who is a member of the church's Social Concerns Committee, said such a move seems unlikely now. "It sounds like it was a very difficult situation for police," she said. "And with the World Trade Center situation going on, it is not a good time to be in the sort of trial the arrestees are fighting." Added Marr: "Personally, their cases are on a far back burner."

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22 Sep '01

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RE: Redux: mass hate
by Aimee Farr 22 Sep '01

22 Sep '01

> On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Aimee Farr wrote: > > > ======================== > > And this, from Choate.... > > ======================== > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/psychohistory/message/2810 > > <shrug> > > What ARE you smoking? I did't write that, you did. I just forwarded it > (w/o commentary other than for folks not to take up issue with me since I > didn't write it). I know you just FWDd it. I didn't know what "psychohistory" was. The term sort of lends itself to misconstruction. I've been pissed at you for months over that. ~Aimee

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