September 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

Re: Larry Ellison volunteers to donate the S/W for Nat. ID Cards
by keyser-soze＠hushmail.com 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

At 10:45 AM 9/23/2001 -0700, citizenQ wrote: >>"'We're quite willing to provide the software for this absolutely free.'" >> >>"But Ellison said in the electronic age little privacy is left anyway" ... >> >>" 'This privacy you're concerned about is largely an illusion,' he said. 'All >>you have to give up is your illusions, not any of your privacy.'" >> >>"Howard Gantman, a spokesman for Sen. Diane Feinstein, D-Calif, said that she >>would be interested in discussing the idea with Ellison." > >Fuckwits. I'm concerned the possibility of Nat ID cards is a more virulent >threat than wiretapping and crypto restrictions. > >"May I see your papers please?" Time to show Ellison who the real threats to his personal safety are...

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What might have happened on Sept. 11...
by Matthew Gaylor 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

What might have happened on Sept. 11 if this were truly The Land of the Free: <http://www.tlknapp.net/bieser091101frames.html> Go to the above url to view a cartoon created by Scott Bieser, proprietor of Liberty Artworx <http://www.libertyartworx.com/>. Regards, Matt- ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt(a)coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **************************************************************************

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Re: FC: Sen. Hollings plans to introduce DMCA sequel: The SSSCA
by keyser-soze＠hushmail.com 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

From: Someone > >Working to keep our neighbors awake and informed is our best hope, in my >view - that is the only way democracy will ever work. Historically this has often failed (e.g., the lack of outcry against Japanese internment camps). Neighboors are willing to sell their liberty and their neighbors at the drop of a hat if someone in government promises them greater security, even though these same liars failed them time and time again. Since the New Deal Americans and corporations have become increasingly reliant on government to provide for them, shield them from their own poor judgement and folly and transfer the responsibility to the rest of us. (Citizens of a like mind should structure upcoming tax filings to deduct Congress' largess to the airlines and others). We cannot depend on these cowards and weaklings. You'll notice that no Declaration of War was formally given. Even so Congress has moved to curtail civil liberties. From my perspective both life and liberty are equally dear. Those that attempt to take either I will treat the same. Its time to water the tree...

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23 Sep '01

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Cooksey: Expect racial profiling
by Jim Choate 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

Somebody should impeach this asshole... http://www.theadvocate.com/news/story.asp?StoryID=24605 -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Kill them all, take their land, and go there for vacation. Rage Against The Machine The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Bush's special military tribunals?
by Harmon Seaver 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

Check out http://www.time.com/time/covers/1101010924/bprivacy.html -- anyother references anywhere to Bush's plan for special military tribunals with no constitutional protections for the defendant? WTF? -- Harmon Seaver, MLIS CyberShamanix Work 920-203-9633 Home 920-233-5820 hseaver(a)cybershamanix.com http://www.cybershamanix.com/resume.html

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Intercepts foretold of 'big attack' -- The Washington Times
by Jim Choate 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

http://www.washtimes.com/national/default-200192213012.htm -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Kill them all, take their land, and go there for vacation. Rage Against The Machine The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Guardian Unlimited Observer | UK News | Fury at plan to sell off DNA secrets
by Jim Choate 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

http://observer.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,556511,00.html -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Kill them all, take their land, and go there for vacation. Rage Against The Machine The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Death of 'nations'?
by Jim Choate 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

Hi, Are we seeing the beginning of the end of the concept of 'nation'? Are we faced with the incontrovertible truth that we either abandon the concepts of science/technology, accept a autocratic state where our every move is reviewed for threat potential, or do we find another solution to the problems of mankind other than the 'state'? Are these the only three choices? It is clear that any assault on 'method' will fail because there is an infinite regress. Instead we should focus on 'motive' since if a person is never motivated to commit the act in the first place the 'method' becomes moot. This raises the question of what does 'individual' or 'independent' mean in a technology filled world? It is also clear that CACL solutions won't work, the example of armed aircraft passengers during a high-jack clearly demonstrates how such confrontations can be turned against the passengers to their own detriment. Their very biological nature makes such solutions unworkable. Is it time that all forms of human government recognize the fundamental limits imposed by physics (something even CACL theory doesn't do)? Whatever solution works must include some form of neutral third party conflict resolution mechanism. And the solutions of that mechanism must not resort to forceful coercion. It must recognize the fundamental right of the individual to not go along with the majority in (nearly?) all cases. Is it time we recognize that the good of the many doesn't outweight the needs of the few in all cases? And that in any case the initiation of violence (physical or not) is never justified? That irrespective of the issue forcing someone to participate only creates more problems in the future that any possible good that may come from forcing the current resolution? That these problems will pile up until there is no solution other than a complete 'reboot'? That individuals have a fundamental right to say "No, I won't participate" irrespective of the issue? That in fact Lincolns 'universal law of nations' is nothing more than a scam? Does the threat of future technology applications justify abandoning those applications? Do we put a cap on our lifestyle? I propose that the only solution isn't forcing people to participate but rather offering voluntary opportunities to participate. Buy their cooperation. Is this the true future of 'economics'? -- ____________________________________________________________________ Kill them all, take their land, and go there for vacation. Rage Against The Machine The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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by pseudolicious＠hushmail.com 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

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