September 2001 - cypherpunks-legacy

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24 Sep '01

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Re: FC: Frank Sudia's anti-crypto stand: Razor blade genie is out of bottle
by measl＠mfn.org 24 Sep '01

24 Sep '01

On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote: > From: "Frank Sudia" <frank(a)sudialab.com> > To: "Carl Ellison" <cme(a)acm.org> > Cc: "Declan McCullagh" <declan(a)well.com> > Subject: The Razor Blade Genie is Out of the Bottle <huge snip> > The legislative power of the people (not me, the crypto guys are the megalo > maniacs) could disable every existing copy of PGP. With all due respect here, do you honestly believe this, or are you using this as a rhetorical device? Taken literally, this is an almost incomprehensible display of naivete... Outlawing is not equal to disabling. -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin(a)mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------

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by C&C Electronic Connectors, Inc. 24 Sep '01

24 Sep '01

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UK ministers want mandatory nat'l. IDs, iris-scans, biometrics for anti-terror
by Xeni Jardin 24 Sep '01

24 Sep '01

...from Monday's Sunday Times UK. ----------- Xeni Jardin xeni(a)xeni.net | www.xeni.net | YIM: xeni_jardin ---------------------------------------- MONDAY SEPTEMBER 24 2001 Blunkett wants ID cards for all BY MELISSA KITE, STEWART TENDLER AND DANIEL MCGRORY http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,2-2001331435,00.html RIGID security measures, including compulsory identity cards for all Britons, are being drawn up by ministers as part of the global war against terrorism. David Blunkett, the Home Secretary, confirmed yesterday that tough legislation, which could breach human rights laws, would be brought before MPs soon. Britain, he said, must throw down the gauntlet to terrorists as never before. The proposed legislation is thought to include increased powers of arrest for the police to interrogate suspects and moves to abolish some rights of judicial appeal for immigrants turned back at airports. Police may be allowed to arrest people suspected of having knowledge about terrorism, simply to interrogate them. Legislation to allow transcripts of telephone conversations bugged by MI5 to be used as evidence in court is also reported to be under consideration. Mr Blunkett confirmed that identity cards were being considered very seriously indeed. Asked whether they would be voluntary or compulsory, he said: I think a voluntary card in the present circumstances would not be a great deal of help. Speaking on the BBCs On the Record programme, Mr Blunkett said that at least three anti-terror Bills would introduce a range of new police powers, including the increased powers of arrest. Compulsory ID cards would use the latest technology, by scanning the iris of the eye or using thumb or finger-printing. <...>

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Selected quotes from Keyser-Soze
by Aimee Farr 24 Sep '01

24 Sep '01

Indeed it may have to be fought through the crosshairs... Time to show Ellison who the real threats to his personal safety are... Its time to water the tree... Only cowards worry about possible punishment. If this be terrorism, make the most of it! It seems quite a few have been making payments lately...eh? Will someone publish the home address of the prosecuting attorney and judge issuing the warrant? (Plus, numerous political identifying rants.) --- I've completed my psychological profile, and I'm left wanting. Maybe if I resort to astrology.... Keyser, what sign were you born under? ~Aimee

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by Haisheng 24 Sep '01

24 Sep '01

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TheRegister on anti-crypto/stego-hype in US media; UMich report
by Xeni Jardin 24 Sep '01

24 Sep '01

The Register (UK) published this snarky article, below, poking fun at recent anti-stego/crypto-hype in the American press in the wake of the 9/11 attacks. "USA Toady" is either a pretty funny typo, or a pretty funny dis. The article references a CITI/U.Mich. report from 31 August, "Detecting Steganographic Content on the Internet" -- apologies in advance if the report url (or analysis thereof) was previously posted onlist, I may have missed it. from the UMich report (url below): "We have analyzed over two million images downloaded from eBay auctions, and have not been able to find a single hidden message." ------------------------------------------------ "THE REGISTER - 09.22.01 Research slaps crypto-banning Feds http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/21829.html While America's own fundamentalists - led by US Attorney General John Ashcroft - prepare the most draconian assault on Americans' civil liberties since the second world war, their very own causus beli seems to be vanishing. The enormous increase in surveillance has been justified by claims that terrorists are using cryptography, and in particular steganography: the art of hiding information. USA Toady has run a series of articles on the theme, all predictably quoting 'anonymous' security sources, describing how messages are passed hidden in picture innocuous picture files on sites such as eBay. Or maybe, not so innocuous. The tabloid even managed to score a tasteless bullseye last week with an article that combined pornography, cryptography, terrorism and sport in the same article. For any readers who doubted the message, it was illustrated with a picture of /bin/laden himself. <...>" ------------------------------------------------ <"Detecting Steganographic Content on the Internet" 800K, PDF Center for Information Technology integration University of Michigan http://www.citi.umich.edu/techreports/reports/citi-tr-01-11.pdf> ------------------------------------------------

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Re: ID cards+law history
by keyser-soze＠hushmail.com 24 Sep '01

24 Sep '01

At 08:00 PM 9/23/2001 -0700, citizenQ wrote: >The scholarly informed citations are useful and interesting. But haven't we been put on notice that "a rebalancing" is going to occur, "it's a new world" and we will "use every measure at our disposal to combat terrorism" ?? - I fear it is naive to imagine that case law and legal precedent can combat the legislative onslaught to come. Indeed it may have to be fought through the crosshairs...

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From Washington Times
by measl＠mfn.org 24 Sep '01

24 Sep '01

WASHINGTON, Sept. 23 (UPI) - U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell said Sunday the Bush administration would soon offer proof of Osama bin Laden's alleged involvement in the recent terror attacks on New York and Washington. "In the near future, we'll be able to put out on paper a document, that will describe quite clearly the evidence that we have linking him to this attack," Powell told NBC television. Sheesh! It takes them this long to manufacture something this simple? -- Yours, J.A. Terranson sysadmin(a)mfn.org If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they should give serious consideration towards setting a better example: Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate... This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers, associates, or others. Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the first place... --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Is there still a chance for us?
by A Fellow Human 23 Sep '01

23 Sep '01

23 September 2001 Is there still hope left? We as human beings and inhabitants of earth are faced with one of the greatest moments in human history. Our world is on the brink of cataclysmic change. Many known and unknown civilizations that have come before us have been at this moment in time. Perhaps forces deep with inside the earth such as volcanoes or earthquakes have triggered these events. Maybe these events came from the deepest reaches of outer space or even from disease or divine intervention. Whatever the case as you read this, the human society in whole has the chance to choose it's own destiny. There have been some of the most horrific events in recent history that have occurred over the last year. From mothers killing their babies for no reason to the mass amounts of children killing out of control. All of this culminating with the suicide attacks that have been occurring around the globe and the infamous WTC attack of 11 September 2001. Lets face some facts here: Iran has no less than 38 intermediate range nuclear missiles ready to go. India and Pakistan have full nuclear capabilities. Israel is fully nuclear and willing to preempt any threat that they feel is real. Iraq. What do you think? And of course all the others. Lets not even talk about the biological and chemical weapons.. Anthrax is always a favorite when people talk about bio weapons. The thing is that it is very difficult to deliver affectively. Not to say that it isn't a real threat especially on the defined battlefields. To other places in the world it isn't affective unless it is delivered by someone like Russia or the USA who really has the means. God only hopes that Iraq can't deliver it yet via their SCUD Missile system. This would be a clear threat for Israel's population. The main threat is very realistic. SMALL POX. This deadly disease is extremely contagious and very resilient. Once it is out it doesn't just die and disappear. You are talking about one infected person could cause a wildfire affect across a nation and the globe. This viscous disease will kill within a week. The USA for example only has a total of 7 million vaccines available. And guess who they are for?? That's right the US military and the government officials. SMALLPOX escaped the controlled laboratories with the end of the Russian communist regime. Not to say it has infected anyone outside of their testing conditions; this is to say that the deadly disease is now in the hands of people who are not afraid to use it. If you believe anything less than this, don't confuse ignorance with hope. So this brings us back to choice. Yes it is our human obligation to stand up to and overcome evil. This has been the eternal human struggle. Whether those evils came from within ourselves or from outside forces. The perspective of good and bad and right and wrong is always been subject to the way in which you view it. There have been times in our human history where good and the better for all man kind have not prevailed. We as humans of this time and place have made tremendous achievements and monumental failures. We are at the cusp of discovery and surging our civilization into the outer reaches of space and time. The required resources, technology, and human endeavor are at our collective fingertips. As a world of one people (with many individual desires) working together for a common goal we can achieve things we haven't even imagined yet and things that we have. So here we are today. No ideas no matter how noble or evil ever works out the way we have them planned. This conflict is now already out of control and has reached critical mass. The question is how fast will this uncontrolled reaction take to explode. Days, weeks, months?? Make no mistakes, WE ARE THERE!! Here are the simple choices: 1) Let it ride; don't change anything.. Over 90% of the world human population will be gone. To be left after it is said in done wouldn't be a bad thing.. The opportunity to survive and be the seeds to the next civilization and help pickup where the last one left off. To have learned from the mistakes and be able to teach and grow again. Like a natural wild fire that clears out the old growth making way for the new and continuing cycle of an old growth forest (which there aren't many of those left). Of course the trick to this is surviving. Could be tough. Are you cut out for it? Are you the one in the 720,000,000 million people who will survive? 2) Make the change. Yes it is that simple. Make the change. This has to come collectively between every human. Sound like too big of an obstacle? Consider the other option. We are the people of earth. We are not all represented by Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden, Yasser Arafat, Tony Blair, George W. Bush. Etc. People everywhere need to make this choice. All things need to change. I want to quote John Lennon for some advice. Past this, you have to go back to choice #1. Imagine John Lennon Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us only sky Imagine all the people Living for today... Imagine there's no countries It isn't hard to do Nothing to kill or die for And no religion too Imagine all the people Living life in peace... You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will be as one Imagine no possessions I wonder if you can No need for greed or hunger A brotherhood of man Imagine all the people Sharing all the world... You may say I'm a dreamer But I'm not the only one I hope someday you'll join us And the world will live as one Congratulations and good luck to all of you. What a time to be alive. Embrace this life with all of its infinite possibilities and wonders. Love yourselves and your children. Please translate this in to as many languages and forward onto as many persons as you can. Remember, every end is just another beginning.

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