November 2000 - cypherpunks-legacy

CDR: Banned From Prius_Technical_Stuff
by Aaron Nielsen 13 Nov '00

13 Nov '00

Hello; I have reiceived a message asking me to ban you from this group on the account that they said that you are nothing more than a mailing list. If you feel that you have been unfairly banned please e-mail me and I'm sure we can get this sorted out. Thank You; Aaron Nielsen _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

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CDR: Hate monger Tim May strikes again
by auto9950013＠hushmail.com 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

The hate mongering Tim May who claims not to hate Jews, tells us: >I'm fully aware that the Democrats will likely win through exactly >this trickery. The Dems used their Jew lawyers very quickly and very >shrewdly. The Republicans trusted to the count and recount, which >they won. > Well, us gun grabing liberal Democrats with our Jew lawyers and our Jew V.P. will win. Hope your ready Tim, were coming for you and your guns.

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CDR: Re: Bush Florida lead dwindles toward zero...
by George＠Orwellian.Org 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May Moroned: # Hey, Vulis, I was the one who pointed this out earlier than nearly # anyone else. Yesterday, early afternoon, my time. Check it out. Oooh, want to compete on who was first? ! From root Mon Nov 6 19:09:23 2000 ! From: cypher(a)punk.net ! Subject: Election results come in January ! Newsgroups: ny.politics ! Organization: NYPD: We don't need no stinkin' license plates! ! ! Florida is so close results might not be in until 9-11pm EST. ! Same for Michigan. ! ! And California? 3.2 million absentee ballots, which will ! take days to count. ! ! And the government's official count doesn't ! come in until three months later. ! ! Anyway, there's a chance we won't know who wins for a while. ! ! Just a possibility. White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May Moroned: # I'm fully aware that the Democrats will likely win through # exactly this trickery. What trickery? Everything being done now is provided for by Florida law. Of course, a White Supremacist like you will have a severely twisted view of even the simplest of events. White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May Moroned: # As I have said, it will be a "good" thing that the Democrats # steal the election this way. Yeah, for your "Turner Diaries" wet dreams. Ha ha ha. White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May Moroned: Georgie-poo wrote: # >Live and let live. # Fuck that. Heh-heh-heh. Poor rich weirdo and his "Turner Diaries" wet dreams. Why don't you do something constructive-ish by releasing a shoot-em-up video game that matches your wet dreams? Usenet and this list don't do your warped dreams justice. Better release it anonymously, or you'll get sued for anyone hurt. ;-) Or don't, and make your free speech stand there.

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CDR: Vatican defends its IP
by Anonymous Remailer 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

VATICAN, Monday: Numerous religion around the world have confirmed that they will close over the next few weeks following the Catholic Churchs startling declaration that it is the only valid source of salvation. The Churchs declaration, "Dominus Iesus", ended the years old debate as to which religion was correct. In the document the Catholic Church claims that it made the shrewd purchase of the rights of salvation sometime around 300BC. Aware of the possible controversy that would be caused by their statements the Church sought to placate other religions. "Just because there is no chance of salvation through them doesnt mean that Hinduism or Buddhism cant be very effective social clubs," said Pope John Paul II. The Catholic Church has defended the impartiality of the declaration which also claims that Christian religions that failed to recognise the Pope are also deficient as churches. "There was a great deal of vigour in the process and any religion could have turned out to be the correct religion," defended Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. "I got the Pope to ask God and the answer just happened to come back in favour of Catholicism, it was just lucky for us." "I guess it is good to find out now rather than later," commented Jewish fundamentalist Rabbi Kahane who admitted that there was a sense of regret at being wrong. "Pass me a ham sandwich."

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CDR: Re: Close Elections and Causality
by George＠Orwellian.Org 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

Kevin Elliott <k-elliott(a)wiu.edu> wrote: % This is why people who don't know statistics should not be allowed to % think... By no means is that number, by itself, of any significance % whatsoever. How many got canceled last election- one number I heard % said 14,000. If so then 19,000 is about what one would expect % considering increased voter turnout and normal statistical % fluctuations. Bzzzt! Wrong. http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB973893500998857873.htm # # November 10, 2000 # # Palm Beach Official Disputes Claim By Bush Campaign on Invalid # Ballots # # By JACKIE CALMES Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL # # WASHINGTON -- The Bush campaign is dead wrong on one of its prime # arguments in response to complaints about voter confusion in # Florida's Palm Beach County, according to a top county official. # # Palm Beach County Commissioner Carol Roberts said in an interview # Friday that about 30,000 ballots were invalidated for their # presidential selection this week because voters had punched two # holes or none. That is more than twice the 14,000 invalidated # in 1996, which could be evidence of some amount of voter confusion # about the county ballot's much-criticized design. # # This week, both Bush campaign Chairman Don Evans and chief # strategist Karl Rove have claimed that about 19,000 ballots' # presidential votes were invalidated, or not significantly more # than four years ago, when turnout was lower. But that 19,000 # represents only the invalidated ballots with two holes punched # for president, the commissioner says. More than 10,000 additional # ballots were invalidated for having no presidential vote, she # explains, for a combined 30,000. # # "It's not a correct argument," Ms. Roberts, a Democrat, said # of the Bush officials' contention that this year's invalidated # ballots are comparable to the number four years ago. "It's just # not accurate." Kevin Elliott <k-elliott(a)wiu.edu> wrote: % More importantly, the ballot was approved by both % parties before the election took place. Thus demonstrating the ballot design problem is non-partisan. I asked a [Bush-voting] friend why the live-and-let-die attitude towards such a large loss of people's votes, and he admitted it was because he wanted Bush to win, and that Gore probably had the votes.

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CDR: Organization
by tabu_luv＠yahoo.com 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

Next time, email someone who cares. OK! -------------------- Original Message:

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CDR: 6th CACR Information Security Workshop - Slides now online
by Robert Guerra 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

Hi folks: I attended t he Sixth CACR Information Security Workshop in Toronto the other day . The slides presented by the speakers are online and available at the URL's below.. http://www.cacr.math.uwaterloo.ca/conferences/2000/isw-sixth/announcement.h… The Sixth CACR Information Security Workshop, also titled the 1st Annual Privacy and Security Workshop,was help on Friday, November 10, 2000 at the Fields Institute, Toronto, Ontario. Slides for the presentations are available at: http://www.cacr.math.uwaterloo.ca/conferences/2000/isw-sixth/slides2.html Slides available: Ann Cavoukian Privacy by Design: Building Trust into Technology David Wallace Meeting the Challenges og Privacy in the Ontario Government Barry Sookman Incorporating Privacy into the Security Domain: Issues and Solutions Stefan Brands PKI versus Private Credentials Brenda Watkins Security and Government On-Line: Getting the Model Right Peter Cullen Managing the Balance of Privacy - Why it Matters Jo Anne DeLaurentiis Privacy Protection Made Simple: How technical design can help you meet your commitment to privacy in the marketplace Guy Herriges The Privacy Impact Assessment Guidelines -- "...as we transfer our whole being to the data bank, privacy will become a ghost or echo of its former self and what remains of community will disappear"...Marshal McLuhan -- Robert Guerra <rguerra(a)yahoo.com>, Fax: +1(303) 484-0302 WWW Page <http://pgp.greatvideo.com>, ICQ # 10266626 PGPKeys <http://pgp.greatvideo.com/keys/rguerra/>

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CDR: Democrats are arguing for "statistical sampling voting"
by Tim May 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

Democrat spinners are now talking up the idea of using "statistical sampling" to assign some fraction of the spoiled ballots to Al Gore. Not a surprise, given that it was the Democrats who wanted to augment the "direct count" of the U.S. Census with "statistical fudge factors." I never thought I'd hear this bizarre notion extended to the vote, though! --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.

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CDR: Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!
by George＠Orwellian.Org 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

Declan, powerful Media Mogul, wrote: # George seems to have an unusual fixation on Vulis... THAT'S NOT FUNNY. White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May Moroned: # I trust more in machines for counting machine ballots than I trust in # local politicians counting machine ballots. The Republican and Democratic members of the card examiners have agreed on objective standards. o if any corner of the "chad" is broken, then it is a choice. o merely indented or even "pregnant" (sunshine) are not a choice As far as I know, two opposing choices is still an invalidated ballot White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May Moroned: # The Democrat Party is just trying to steal the election. You mean Dubya is, by virtue of going into federal court to stop a state recount that is provided for under Florida law. White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May Moroned: # Blood in the street is about to flow. AH HA HA HA HA! You and your "Turner Diaries" wet dreams. White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May Moroned: # No wonder the Democrat Party has been trying so hard to disarm us. No wondering about your brain: it's left the planet. Hey, Tim, put your wife on the list so we can talk to the rational one. If I ever find out your real name and where you live, I'm going to come over and deal with you. I'm going to lick you. Lick, Lick, Lick, Slobber, Lickity-lick-lick-lick. Yum, stupid white trash.

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CDR: Declan on Bell
by Eric Cordian 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

In a Wired News article, Declan reports: "In Bell's 1997, plea agreement, he admitted to owning chemicals that could be used to produce Sarin gas and to stink-bombing the carpet outside an IRS office." Yeah, and I own chemicals for making chlorine gas. Sodium hypochlorite solution, and sodium bisulphate. I use these "dangerous" chemicals when I do my laundry, and when I clean my bathroom. I think "chemicals that could be used to produce..." is pretty sleezy journalism, which could describe virtually anything. I think using the word "admitted" in describing a plea bargain taken in lieu of a much longer prison sentence is also pretty sleezy journalism. What were the chemicals in question? Does Bell, outside of documents the government makes him sign, claim to have made the IRS doormat smell bad? Does anyone with a clue think nitric acid is a ominous chemical for a chemist to own? I'm really getting tired of Jim Bell articles whose tone suggests that despite the egregious mistreatment of Mr. Bell, the government apprehended him just in the nick of time, before he killed millions with homemade weapons of mass destruction. Bell's Common Law Court was political theatre, his Assassination Politics essays satirical commentary on political accountability, and his documentation of smart-assed IRS employees consumer activism. Aside from not giving his government-issued Social Security number to an employer, the entire compendium of alleged Jim Bell crimes is little more than one of IRS Agent Jeff Gordon's more extreme masturbation fantasies. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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