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Just Released! 16 Million!
by workadmn＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

IT WAS JUST RELEASED!! INTRODUCING...MILLIONS VOL. 1 We took a total of over 92 million email addresses from many of the touted CD's that are out there (bought them all - some were $300+)! We added the millions we had in storage to those. When we combined them all, we had in excess of 100+ million addresses in one huge file. We then ran a super "sort/de-dupe" program against this huge list. It cut the file down to less than 25 million!!! Can you believe that? It seems that most people that are selling CD's are duping the public by putting numerous files of addresses in the CD over and over. This created many duplicate addresses. They also had many program "generated" email addresses like Compuserve, MCI, ANON's, etc. This causes a tremendous amount of undeliverables, and for those that use Stealth programs, clogs up servers quickly with trash, etc. We then ran a program that contained 150+ keywords to remove addresses with vulgarity, profanity, sex-related names, postmaster, webmaster, flamer, abuse, spam, etc., etc. Also eliminated all .edu, .mil, .org, .gov, etc. After that list was run against the remaining list, it reduced it down to near 16 million addresses! So, you see, our list will save people hundreds of dollars buying all others that are out there on CD and otherwise. Using ours will be like using the 100+ million that we started with, but a lot less money and alot less time!! We also purchased Cyber-Promos ($995.00) CD. We received it just prior to finishing production work on the new CD. We had our people take a random sample of 300,000 addresses from the touted 2.9 that they advertised. We used a program that allows us to take a random sample of addresses from any list. We were able to have the program take every 9th address, thus giving us a 300,000 list of Cyber's email addresses from top to bottom. We did not clean these, but we did create 3 seperate files named cyber1.txt, cyber2.txt, & cyber3.txt of 100,000 addresses each. This will give all people that use the list a opportunity to send mail to the list before deciding if their CD is all it's hyped to be. We also included a 2+ million "Remove/Flamer" file broke into seperate files for ease of extracting and adding to your own database of removes. "You can buy from the REST or you can buy from the BEST. Your choice. _____________________________ What others are saying: "I received the CD on Friday evening. Like a kid with a new toy, I immediately started bulking out using the new email addresses. Over the course of the weekend, I emailed out over 500,000 emails and I received less than TWENTY undeliverables!! 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17 Dec '03

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Netiquette: (was) Re: .50 ammo
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 1/5/98 1:29 AM, Alan Olsen (alan(a)clueserver.org) passed this wisdom: >At 09:24 PM 1/4/98 -0600, Igor Chudov @ home wrote: >>Alan wrote: >>> At 04:50 PM 1/3/98 -0500, Brian B. Riley wrote: >>> The hardest part is getting the 50 cal ammo. (He had his Federal >>> firearms license and was in the National Guard, so it was not too >>> difficult for him.) Getting AP and other special ammo would be >>> doubly difficult. (Non-specialty ammo could be reloaded as long as >>> you could get molds and primer caps.) >>> >>> I guess it depends on your military and/or black market >>> connections. >> >>I have seen what appeared to be .50 ammo (probably not AP) in gun >> stores. > >I am surprised, but I am sure you are correct. It has been quite a >whilesince I have spent time in gun shops. (My expenditures on ammo >is limited to smaller calibers. I tend not to look at other things >because I cannot afford what I >want.) small point here of netiquette. one should be careful when trimming down quotes out of context ... I did not make the above statement. This time it is of little matter as the statement wasn't very inflammatory nor was it very controversial (not that CP is *ever* inflammatory or controversial), but it may well have been. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNLFTOz7r4fUXwraZAQHDDQf/XBk9i+6+GA7UcZD/a1CY3F/102Kh5u/L Y0KfqoMGCqv23oeJbayxjbWtXKSDd5+wX8Owrmr0i4arsD7vsunECkiQeUf0oQ83 Nid/tffRD5smu6P7mrf4yRVWOKKMmY8/VLOpFi9mRrOGVAWpGildXDikIhDuFylW RHjRnSugM88RUqz1Z7rLuIirMpYm//UVT0YRM9EXUyH/ejmOgH5YB8vP5isPBa4T L2TjPKbirQU1BX5HdgrVB+WkOpHdfSvA6sFlMPdAG4VvRltXA1IXZv1ce1AlKgtW OTnzvFoVrnMieJ0cKxe/dXSbFpedb9BBmCcCo+GWuf/Z2M/NWMwSnA== =SO5L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "There's so much comedy on television. Does that cause comedy in the streets?" Dick Cavett

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17 Dec '03

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Crypto-enemy senator gets cash from Johnny Chung
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sen. Kerry is not as extreme as Sen. Kerrey, but he still is an enemy of strong encryption. I wrote last year: >>>> The committee also approved amendments proposed by Kerry that would give jurisdiction over crypto exports to a nine-member "Encryption Export Advisory Board." The panel would "evaluate whether [a] market exists abroad" and make non-binding recommendations to the president. <<<< Here's what he's been up to recently... -Declan KERRY: DAMAGE CONTROL Boston Globe's Black reports, Boston atty Robert Crowe on 12/29 resigned as chair of Sen. John Kerry's (D) camp. finance cmte "in response to negative publicity that featured his ties" to Kerry. Crowe, "a longtime close personal friend and financial supporter" of Kerry's, "reportedly decided that he had had enough of critical newspaper stories, sources close to Kerry said." Kerry, responding to the resignation which he termed "understandable": "Bob Crowe has done an outstanding job for me, often at the expense of his own personal life." Crowe had "made headlines" recently in regard to his role as a lobbyist for Boston's Big Dig and his work for a firm hired by the Swiss Bankers Assn. Kerry's finance cmte will be "'streamlined'" and headed by Peter Maroney who was hired by the campaign last fall (12/30). CHUNG CONNECTION? A Los Angeles Times article by Rempel & Miller reported that Kerry received $10K in '97 from Dem contributor Johnny Chung following Chung's "high-level meeting" with SEC officials, arranged for him by Kerry's office soon after he paid a visit there. A Kerry spokesperson "confirmed that Kerry's office contacted the SEC" on Chung's behalf, "but she said it involved no more than helping arrange "'a tour.'" The DoJ is investigating the contribution which Chung is said to have made through several employees and others whom he reimbursed. Kerry spokesperson Tovah Ravitz "acknowledged" that Chung was approached for a donation "'numerous times because they were nearing the end of a tough campaign.'" Although Ravitz said Kerry's office arranged a tour for Chung, SEC officials "said the request on behalf of Chung involved a briefing session" (12/24). Boston Globe's Zitner follows up on the Times story, reporting that Chung's visit to the SEC "was something more than a casual tour but something less than special access to high government official, the SEC said." Kerry's Ravitz said Chung made the request for a stop at the SEC during an 8/96 visit, accompanied by other Asian businessmen, to Kerry's office. Chung and the others visited the SEC later the same day (12/25). On 12/26, USA Today reported that Ravitz said the Times was incorrect in its initial report (12/26). 01/05 12:35

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Re: Anonymous Remailers
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 23:14:19 -0800 From: Chuq Von Rospach <chuqui(a)plaidworks.com> Subject: Re: Anonymous Remailers To: "ListMom-Talk Discussion List" <ListMom-Talk(a)SkyList.Net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Precedence: Bulk Reply-To: "ListMom-Talk Discussion List" <ListMom-Talk(a)SkyList.Net> Sender: "ListMom-Talk Discussion List" <ListMom-Talk(a)SkyList.Net> X-URL: <http://www.SkyList.Net/ListMom-Talk.Home> At 8:10 PM -0800 1/4/98, Eric Mings wrote: > I noticed on Apple's info about acceptable behavior on their lists, that > they ban postings which originate from anonymous remailers (of which they > include juno). I was wondering what experience people have had regarding > abusive posts from such systems, and how one easily identifies them if > you choose to ban postings originating from such systems. Thanks. That's me. I decided to stop accepting posts from anonymous remailers way back, when anon.penet.fi was still alive. Some of that is philosophy, some of that was problems. As far as problems, it's the normal stuff -- personal attacks, mailbombing through anonymous remailers, copyright/slander/libel issues, all the normal fun and games. Since you can't track users back, you have real problems policing them. And since anonymous remailers tend to allow multiple (heading towards infinite) remailing addresses, the practical issue of how to lock out an abusive user becomes severe. That's why Juno is bounced -- you can create accounts and then use them instantly, with no policing and no tracking. I had a problem a while back with an idiot who did, abusively. After about four rounds of trying to get him to go away, I did it the hard way, with a virtual neutron bomb. Juno's no help. In THAT case, I got email from them six weeks later apologizing for being so delayed in responding to my requests for help. they didn't offer to help, they just apologized for not telling me they wouldn't for so long. And that's been typical of my dealing with them. They don't police. They don't care. Their systems are set up so that basically, they *can't* police things. So I just don't even get into it. Since I can't police their users, I police their site. Effectively, they are an anonymous remailer. God knows enough folks use them as one. -- Chuq Von Rospach (chuq(a)apple.com) Apple IS&T Mail List Gnome <http://www.solutions.apple.com/ListAdmin/> Plaidworks Consulting (chuqui(a)plaidworks.com) <http://www.plaidworks.com/> (<http://www.plaidworks.com/hockey/> +-+ The home for Hockey on the net) --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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RE: Location Escrow anyone ?
by Pearson Shane 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi All, > >> 800 MHz analog may be the most difficult. GSM perhaps can reach 500 meteres >>under ideal conditions >> (Andreas Bogk). IS-95/CDMA probably a bit better than GSM due to the very >>high data (chip) rate and >> spread spectrum's better multipath characteristics, although the system's >>multipath performance most >> improves communications not ranging (Phil Karn, Qualcomm). > > >GSM doesn't use spread spectrum? > >Either way, I'd imagine that the accurate time domain division used with GSM >would provide >the Telco's with something a lot better than 500 meters. > >Some cells where I live aren't much further apart than 500 meters. :) > >Bye for now.

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Re: [Humor] Kennedy's New Legislation
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> "Evolution in action." > Thank you, Michael Kennedy, for improving humanity's gene pool. Too bad _you_ reproduced. ---guy

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Letter on Jim Bell
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There's a recent letter on Jim Bell/AP/IRS harassment by long-time friend Bob East at: http://www.charm.net/~joabj/belet.htm Offered by Joab Jackson, who wrote the recent story posted here for the Baltimore City Paper.

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cypherpunks and guns
by Wei Dai 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I don't understand why there is so much talk about guns here lately. Unless someone comes up with a weapon that has some very unusual economic properties, individuals cannot hope to compete with governments in the domain of deadly force. If we have to resort to physical violence, we've already lost! Think about it: if we can defend ourselves with guns, why would we need crypto?

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