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[FWD] Finding a Face in the Crowd
by Steve Schear 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Jeffrey Waters 000-000-0000 <WATERSJ1(a)mail.firn.edu> Date: 06 Nov 1997 08:23:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Finding a Face in the Crowd Found this on a visit to "Science NEWS - EurekAlert! Public Contents" at http://www.eurekalert.org . Interesting to note that the technology was developed with US military funding and is commercially marketed in the EU. Oh well Mr. Orwell, you've never believe how far we've come... "Mugspot" Can Find A Face In The Crowd - Award-Winning Face-Recognition Software Prepares to Go to Work in the Streets Computer "eyes" are now up to such tasks as watching for fugitives in airline terminals and other busy locations. A sophisticated face-recognition system that placed first in recent Army competitive trials has been given the added ability to pick out faces in noisy or chaotic "street" environments. The new "Mugspot" software module developed at the University of Southern California automatically analyzes video images, looking for passers-by. When it finds them, it picks out the heads in the images and then tracks the heads for as long as they remain in the camera's field. Throughout this tracking process, the software is watching for the best possible view of the subject's face -- the one that shows him or her looking most directly at the camera. It selects the best view presented and passes it on to the main face-recognition program. This face-recognition software, developed at USC and the University of Bochum, Germany, and now in commercial use for clients such as Germany's Deutsche Bank, is robust enough to make identifications from less-than- perfect face views. It can also often see through such impediments to identification as mustaches, beards, changed hair styles and glasses -- even sunglasses. <...snip...> Cameras mounted in airports and bus stations, or aimed at oncoming cars at traffic intersections, might continuously watch for known fugitives, von der Malsburg says. Bank surveillance cameras could identify persons seen at previous bank robberies. The Mugspot system can scan eight video frames per second in real time, and takes about 13 seconds to select the best view, process it for identification, compare it to the several hundred faces in its memory and decide whether it has found a match. The three research associates who developed Mugspot with von der Malsburg -- USC graduate student Egor Elagin, postdoctoral researcher Hartmut Neven and Bochum University visiting graduate student Johannes Steffens -- believe further refinement of the system can shorten that time by half. Mugspot is only the latest improvement in the USC/Bochum face recognition software, developed with funds from the Army Research Laboratory (ARL) and marketed commercially in Europe under the trade-name ZN-Face. <...snip...> The USC/Bochum system also shone in tests conducted under substandard lighting conditions: It lost only a small fraction of its accuracy, while competitors showed drastic falloffs in less-than-brilliant illumination. The USC/Bochum system uses an unusual approach that mimics the technique scientists believe the brain uses to recognize images. Von der Malsburg, whose principal research interests lie in the investigation of living brains, in fact carried out much of the original research on the system as part of an attempt to understand human face recognition. His research led to creating a computer model of the way the brain's visual cortex processes information. EM.MALSBURG3 -USC- NOV. 5, 1997 For Immediate Release: 5 November 1997 Contact: Eric Mankin mankin(a)usc.edu 213 740 9344 from the University of Southern California News Service 3620 South Vermont Avenue, Los Angeles, CA 90089-2538 Tel: 213 740 2215 Fax: 213 740 7600 http://www.usc.edu

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Re: PGPsdk is now free for non-commercial use
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:11 AM 11/17/97 +0000, phelix(a)vallnet.com wrote: > >On 16 Nov 1997 22:18:39 -0600, Alan Olsen <alan(a)clueserver.org> wrote: > >>>From what I have read of the license it is against the license agreement to >>ship the libraries on a CD of shareware products for which a price is charged. >> >>If I were to create a program using the libraries and upload them to Simtel >>or one of the other big archives, it could not be distributed on a Simtel >>CD-ROM that someone was charging money for. (Ignoring the usual export >>issues.) >> >>I see this as a big problem. > >This, unfortunately, is a non-issue. I just reread the license agreement >and noticed the following: > >Non-Commercial Distribution License. > > Subject to all the terms and conditions of this Agreement, PGP hereby >grants to you or your organization a limited, nonexclusive, nontransferable >license (a) to incorporate [... stuff deleted ...] >and (b) to reproduce and distribute the Bundled Freeware Application to end >users solely by electronic means (for example, posting on networks or >Internet sites for others to download), > >So, the only way to really (legally) distribute this would be on your own >web site, or a web site that will never be picked up on a cdrom >distribution. > >The as of yet unreleased shareware licensing agreements will probably cover >cdrom distribution. Freeware and shareware often share the same distribution channel. It kind of puts a crimp in distribution if you cannot upload to any archive that might wind up on a cd-rom. (Furthermore, uploads to those archives are not always under the control of the author.) Hopefully they will go back and update the freeware license agreement as well. --- | "That'll make it hot for them!" - Guy Grand | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.ctrl-alt-del.com/~alan/ |alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com|

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(Fwd) NaiF Meeting on Data Mining - MONDAY 11/17
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thought this might be of interest to some of you in the Puget Sound area. .. Blanc > NORTHWEST ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE FORUM > >WHEN: Monday, November 17th, 1997. > No-host dinner: 5:30 - 6:30 p.m. > Social hour: 6:00 - 7:00 p.m. > Training: 7:00 - 8:30 p.m. > >WHERE: The College Club, 5th Avenue & Madison Street, > in Seattle. (Directions later in this notice.) > >TOPIC: Data Mining and KDD: An Introductory Overview > >SPEAKER: Usama M. Fayyad, Ph.D., Microsoft Research > >COST: Public $10, NaiF members free. Complimentary parking > until 9 p.m. for all attendees in the College Club garage. > >ABSTRACT > >Knowledge Discovery in Databases (KDD) and Data Mining are concerned with >the extraction of high-level information (knowledge) from low-level data >(usually stored in large databases). Dr. Fayyad will give an overview of >this rapidly growing area, define the goals, present motivation, and give a >high-level definition of the KDD Process and how it relates to Data Mining. >He will then focus on data mining methods. These methods have their origins >in statistics, pattern recognition, learning, visualization, databases, and >parallel computing. Basic coverage of a sampling of methods will be >provided to give a feel for what the methods are about and how they are >used. > >He will outline the research challenges and opportunities posed by the >problem of extracting models from massive data sets (i.e., much larger than >main memory). Operating under such scalability constraints poses interesting >problems for how models can be built and what methods are practical. He >will use an application in astronomy, done at JPL/Caltech, to motivate the >need for dealing with large databases, to illustrate problems of >classification and clustering with verylarge data sets, and to illustrate >how these techniques can offer powerful novel solutions to significant >problems. > >BIOGRAPHY > >Usama Fayyad is a Senior Researcher at Microsoft Research >(http://www.research.microsoft.com/research/dtg/fayyad) ><http://www.research.microsoft.com/research/dtg/fayyad)> . After receiving >the Ph.D. degree in 1991, he joined the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL), >California Institute of Technology, until 1996. At JPL, he headed the >Machine Learning Systems Group where he developed data mining systems for >automated science data analysis. He remains affiliated with JPL as a >Distinguished Visiting Scientist. Dr. Fayyad received the 1993 JPL Lew >Allen Award for Excellence in Research, and the 1994 NASA Exceptional >Achievement Medal. >He was program co-chair of KDD-94 and KDD-95 (the First International >Conference on Knowledge Discovery and Data Mining). He was general chair of >KDD-96, is editor-in-chief of the journal "Data Mining and Knowledge >Discovery," and co-editor of the new MIT Press book (1996) "Advances in >Knowledge Discovery and Data Mining." His research interests include >knowledge discovery in large databases, data mining, machine learning, >statistical pattern recognition, and clustering. > >DINNER & AI > >NaiF members and non-members are invited to come early and order your own >dinner from the College Club's delicious and economical menu. The College >Club offers free beer and some soft drink selections to Club members and >their guests (that includes all NaiF program participants) during their >happy hour" from 5 to 7 p.m. Why not come directly from work (please arrive >by 5:30 p.m.) and join the NaiF Board, NaiF members and friends in a great >dinner before the evening program? To aid in their planning, the College >Club requires a count of the NaiF dinner participants. >R.S.V.P. for the dinner only to Dave Ault (DAAult(a)Brigadoon.com ><mailto:DAAult@Brigadoon.com> , or 206-783-2917) by Noon on Wednesday, >November 12th, 1997. > >SOCIAL HOUR > >Come early (or join us after dinner) and network with other AI professionals >and enthusiasts during our social hour from 6:00 to 7:00 p.m. NaiF provides >complimentary coffee and sodas during the social hour and program >presentation. > >DIRECTIONS TO COLLEGE CLUB > >FROM THE SOUTH - >* Take the Madison Street exit from I-5. >* Turn left (west) at the light onto Madison St. >* Turn left (south) at the second light onto 5th Avenue. >* Turn left immediately into the garage under the College Club. > > FROM THE NORTH - > >* Take the Union Street exit from I-5. >* Turn left (south) onto 5th Avenue. >* After Madison St. turn left into garage under the College Club. > > > NaiF BOARD & OFFICERS > > Dave Ault, Ph.D. > Frank Christopherson, Ph.D. > Paul Gianattasio (President) > Robin Gianattasio (Secretary) > Al Leichner, C.P.A. (Treasurer) > Rae Mackay > Dan Mahler (Vice President) > Mike Michaels, Ph.D. > Philip Murphy, Ph.D. > Brian Weisbrod > > > NaiF ACTIVITIES > >* To volunteer for NaiF activities please contact NaiF President Paul >Gianattasio at <Topper(a)Halcyon.com <mailto:Topper@Halcyon.com> >. >* NaiF gives AI practitioners a forum to share their experiences and >results. Interested? Contact Program Director Dr. Dave Ault at ><DAAult(a)Brigadoon.com <mailto:DAAult@Brigadoon.com> >. > >For additional information on NaiF's activities please connect to our WWW >Web Site. > >CONTACTING NaiF > >P.O. Box 181 >Bellevue, WA, 98009-0181 > >World Wide Web Site: > http://www.halcyon.com/topper/naif.htm ><http://www.halcyon.com/topper/naif.htm> >If you know of others who would like to be included on NaiF's e-mail >distribution list, with their permission, please forward their name and >e-mail address to the sender of this message. >David A. Ault, Ph.D. <DAAult(a)Brigadoon.com ><mailto:DAAult@Brigadoon.com> > >P.O. Box 31864 >Seattle, WA 98103-1864 (206) 783-2917 > > > >

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Re: Announcing a disposable remailer
by Benjamin Chad Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Announcing a disposable remailer
by Benjamin Chad Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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The Illusion of Freedom
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Kent Crispin wrote: >On Thu, Nov 13, 1997 at 05:59:51AM -0000, [Nerthus] wrote: >[...] >> >> "I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty, >> or give me death." -- Patrick Henry >> >> What is life without liberty? Abject slavery. Any sane man would rather >> die than be a slave. > >It makes nice rhetoric, but this is simply not true, you know. Most >people correctly evaluate that you have no chance for freedom at all >if you commit suicide, whereas a slave *does* have a chance. Assuming he recognizes that he *is* a slave. Most people are oblivious to this fact. >But of course we know from game theory that being completely >predictable can be a weakness. So having a certain percentage of the >population who will behave irrationally is probably necessary for the >health of a society. But if too many people act irrationally, >society will disintegrate. (By "irrational" here I am referring to >behaviour clearly contrary to your own survival.) 'Tis true. War is a perfect example of what happens when too many people act irrationally. I'm interested in avoiding war without becoming a slave in the process. Anyone else? Nerthus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNGz3tuFWwZe05jcJAQFkDQf+L2Xv0bL8zIT6aKZDkPSYYcLnDD1Ky8d8 F6/1NMid0ZSsn/d6QtMH+ToZDHIuXsY2H12RZqmjSxLnaOm6BPsdGvxviuPoMKT2 1OFEszVgCbx0R+6mcZSjHtkbPr03s1+YgfEShdp7HRymmFsKkb71lPGj3naj1Yle p9k6qqJ2r4AMR6tlop6MjC9IgzJxzCDinOAcn2l1+pDkfj3N8KXIJgauPAtVd+zS sbDpNwL4NCuMpmTOeYhfiaD4ODD0LfU4yfYQFSac1OwPq3hG4vt0HmGrh77WvLSF yG1Lm1uSr8InLj1g4Zhkx0H+e7Ut9YgMFLWtfGVHiRb/73t1l0U2/Q== =0zEn -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Hard To Read PGP 5.5 Key
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- "Benjamin Chad Wienke" <woodwose(a)mailexcite.com> posted a message with the PGP 5.5 key attached below. My Eudora 3.0.3 plugin couldn't find any PGP-relevant information, though I had no problem using PGPtray's Add Key From Clipboard. PGP 5.0 indicates it's an RSA key and doesn't show anything special about it like CMR :-) - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: PGP for Business Security 5.5 mQENAzRgm1kAAAEIAKuDuhI2L3bR4InCJxzaiPLtLHU+tFaD8NeVWAh+XiYme5Cp aH5oKDUVzPFoSTidYC11xB5VIXRX6yCnjk5MqX3VlKJ+hVv/4vY20ZlVBaDc8IZ5 GvrEc8+iify3OdOkh3p4FuUbT2rgV/QO8n1UPOfwpzPAF/cqznqgUHuupB6+/k1n 7y6vCMQp1GmOZP9LO6MqZOKmtzKbrBNwio+Yp+vGFv0/HDW1ZD1bIIQL+ZhEXVR7 0Px5u8yeGUer6vdmz8S44s76JPnYPGU5z7vprndc5QHMIjQY9ZUWxlvsR43s1RuZ 0r+1f35f4LhxCOyf2FLV6+hI9Rjd9Uu3rrYNJeEABRG0HFdvb2R3b3NlIDxXb29k d29zZUBkZXYubnVsbD6JARUDBRA0YJtZ9Uu3rrYNJeEBAcLbB/90co6BJRGtIrNZ 2BqiA8+VrsGQMzUfCl4cas4i+G0aKigkemW/TlbSUEF7YIk7bh/ZQ49eAGucrfM5 NICAqSSzNQx+3h2pzYn/uN5+55QOLho4PwwJw+qr31o+weuIgyoMuECNb2IZUtGn fwfC3MZtZrqwfSzoXpJRZNQCrj+lZKUc14VEJ9kcw1Vt93+E6dTPd+GgyAlcbZ9v 6thY86iTmccCDMv5tPvrAQ/buPHZif1mFs3Ii2pBZ06gpypj2vVTJ63wp5tfASZL RwfXJT3CmjiCQFpHQIGNDwZmc4YaFaFUGobI47nEJXksdTrE8o1f9ISwrDc2RZIX +VP1+pyo =7OWl - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQBUAwUBNHAMZfthU5e7emAFAQG6kAH4zcbnumeZlyG6N5jP5TLPHVQYXM82P314 su1zAC/GnrlwtAnwgN8UtlYpr+Gkz8SkIK740DCgc+PRirzfF0K6 =c1lS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com Regular Key PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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KC is an Idiot
by Benjamin Chad Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 01:00 AM 11/16/97 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote: >Hmm -- I've been robbed at gunpoint 3 times, pistol-whipped once. The >perpetrators were all minorities; none were ever caught. Possessing a >gun at the time wouldn't have made a positive difference in any of the >cases, incidentally. (I own several guns; I am quite familiar with >guns; I no longer really have a use for them, though.) I thought Kent was a liberal suckup shill, but now I realize he is merely a stupid jackass. Unless Kent walks around in a semipermanent state of rectal defilade, having a gun in his posession WOULD have made a significant difference in each case. A certain amount of situational awareness IS required to have your gun aimed at the punk(s) before the punks get the drop on you. Anyone unable to be aware of their surroundings deserves whatever they get--natural selection removing stupid genes from the pool and all that. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Business Security 5.5 iQEVAwUBNG/tXPVLt662DSXhAQF89Qf+PDc57MywdPm+Fq3UxUekkbwRs9Ltp8bo 1owPCO2Ea3rBTm7+sWBklDNbNc2RXA0Id6BZv3PDxkJtKvimsMiaQ9jfxk/x+tts jNpZWSJnN3AJWdsqF1t9nD7A6cVl/MAS5gC6A16rNcG1IKVCB4Om6kD9e1Dc+d1W ynzUxEQ7y0xbs5YnZvZtDSHjTPSSGEIDThBQMkuhXVH8Uy7MCTbLMhG9Y3alF+ET ydxVqIPxZzKWV/vBC9DC9OkOymKoL/bAoZYk85qgUSk/B6Boj6SNizN9uYaUNB4n eNtW4FL/tSuPxjJyDDZhyEiMGvvkjD4TawTTtOXWMt4lPHeTnjKuoQ== =wGpo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com

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KC is an Idiot
by Benjamin Chad Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 01:00 AM 11/16/97 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote: >Hmm -- I've been robbed at gunpoint 3 times, pistol-whipped once. The >perpetrators were all minorities; none were ever caught. Possessing a >gun at the time wouldn't have made a positive difference in any of the >cases, incidentally. (I own several guns; I am quite familiar with >guns; I no longer really have a use for them, though.) I thought Kent was a liberal suckup shill, but now I realize he is merely a stupid jackass. Unless Kent walks around in a semipermanent state of rectal defilade, having a gun in his posession WOULD have made a significant difference in each case. A certain amount of situational awareness IS required to have your gun aimed at the punk(s) before the punks get the drop on you. Anyone unable to be aware of their surroundings deserves whatever they get--natural selection removing stupid genes from the pool and all that. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Business Security 5.5 iQEVAwUBNG/tXPVLt662DSXhAQF89Qf+PDc57MywdPm+Fq3UxUekkbwRs9Ltp8bo 1owPCO2Ea3rBTm7+sWBklDNbNc2RXA0Id6BZv3PDxkJtKvimsMiaQ9jfxk/x+tts jNpZWSJnN3AJWdsqF1t9nD7A6cVl/MAS5gC6A16rNcG1IKVCB4Om6kD9e1Dc+d1W ynzUxEQ7y0xbs5YnZvZtDSHjTPSSGEIDThBQMkuhXVH8Uy7MCTbLMhG9Y3alF+ET ydxVqIPxZzKWV/vBC9DC9OkOymKoL/bAoZYk85qgUSk/B6Boj6SNizN9uYaUNB4n eNtW4FL/tSuPxjJyDDZhyEiMGvvkjD4TawTTtOXWMt4lPHeTnjKuoQ== =wGpo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com

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Re: Exporting crypto from Japan
by Benjamin Chad Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 06:37 PM 11/16/97 PST, Nobuki Nakatuji wrote: >Do you readJapanese import & export law book? >If you don't read at yet,You must read it. I bet that NoNookie's next post offers copies of Jap inport/export laws for $50. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Business Security 5.5 iQEVAwUBNHAPCfVLt662DSXhAQHt9wgAkGTzSVIZp2jXh0df22a7Ah3y8hVPyzb4 3kuPrFs4o6+lhdgX3pE6r9F213Hl7/qaDheB/u0bXgnlGtK6gEdL+QBtGg78myRe F82sLxoNQHam31lZ7SRRqJ1GzlbPtPSWuHf3KwN7oaf7QaV/0mWViUYROCB94oqR cpAPnXLzXmeUmHmw8tePSES8KRHA5Gt2MD4Sda2LrJ+RUFvnXw2sG9TCrXeDLFx2 d8LBocy8eCYugc/lowF6NY80EfcFZb1fY+0lAGHg0d1NydJg+x9XxjNR2HBLEmTB +jF1b5gg6f9pVPrqqncmQWHLZAYUO0NuA4DHzHtM0cRh0V2bDBXTSg== =guKp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com

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