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Re: Sign up on YoungSluts click thru Program
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ray Arachelian wrote: > would you guys quit giving cypherpunks(a)toad.com as your email address for > your porno runs. The extra spam is annoying. :) use nobody(a)nowhere.mil > if you want... :) > > On Wed, 13 Aug 1997, YoungGirl wrote: > > >Below is the result of your feedback form. It was submitted by > > > (cypherpunks(a)toad.com) on Wednesday, August 13, 1997 at 19:46:18 Use your Mr. C. Punks credit card to sign up, and send the password to the list. Be assured that I, for one, only use the XXX-rated accounts for valid Stegonongraphy research. YoungSlutMonger

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Re: Microsoft and Java
by geeman＠best.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:15 AM 8/15/97 +0200, you wrote: > >::Boots > >------------ > > > http://www.computerworld.com/news/970730javah.html > >The Paul Maritz interview that article links to has disappeared from >Computerworld's site, but a copy is appended. > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > CW: Is there some reason you wouldn't want to ship them? Is there > something inferior about them? > > Maritz: No. We don't want to put further bloat on top of the system. This obviously has to make everone on the planet bust a gut howling with laughter! > We think that basically there isn't a lot of end-user value in them. > And Sun's trying to establish them as basically their platform. It's > a competing operating system. >

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Re: Remailer hating Nazis (was Re: The BIG Lie (Jesus Confesses))
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 04:13 PM 8/14/97 -0400, Dr. Dimitri Vulis wrote: >If you don't like remailers, FUCK YOU. Somebody please put that on a bumper sticker!

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AGAIN???DISINFO IN THE NY TIMES??? RESPOND!!!
by eon＠black.hole 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Again the NY Times is blatantly misleading the public! The following letter was sent to Jeri Clausing, a NY Times reporter bringing the disinformative article to her attention. Please read her article and then send her a "reminder" of her accountability to the public. Journalism requires thourough research and not just reliance on the press releases from NSI's IAHC's, of DoC's pr agencies. Wheather it's just pure laziness or wheather Ms. Clausing is following an agenda of some sort, it still adds up to dishonest and disinformative reporting. You can email to Jeri Clausing at jeri(a)nytimes.com. While you're at it, please cc it to her boss: cybertim(a)nytimes.com, rofixm(a)nytimes.com ----------full text of message follows--------- To: jeri(a)nytimes.com From: pgp(a)pgmedia.net (pgMedia) Subject: Disinfo In the NY Times---again? Cc: cybertim(a)nytimes.com, rofixm(a)nytimes.com Message-ID: <1340460904-6466563(a)MediaFilter.org> X-UIDL: 2ad5cdbc00a0fb68ba0a56b3fd2d9ae5 Dear Jeri Clausing, In your August 15 article in Cybertimes entitled "Public Jumps into the Domain Name Dispute" you failed to mention some key facts which are factors in the current Domain Name issue. First, the petition being widely endorsed in support of pgMedia, Inc.'s NAME.SPACE service, was not mentioned in your article, although it represents a significant percentage of the number of total replies received to date by the US Department of Commerce. The petition is located at http://petition.name.space.xs2.net Second, you failed to report the fact that pgMedia, Inc. is currently engaged in litigation against Network Solutions, Inc., a significant and influencing factor in this whole discussion. (http://name.space.xs2.net/law) These blatant omissions are patently misleading to the public and fail to give a fair overview of the entire situation. Wheather you are underinformed on this issue, or wheather you consciously choose to abridge the facts to suit your personal agenda or that of your employer, the New York Times, you are doing a disservice to the public by exercising such journalistic irresponsibility. I had higher expectations for those who write for the NY Times, and this opportunity to see how news is shaped and manufactured has been highly enlightening. Had I not been involved deeply and first-hand in this issue and had there not been so much reported about my comapny in the media, including the NY Times, concerning pgMedia/Name.Space's role in the changing domain name space, the Anti Trust Litigation against Network Solutions, and the US Department of Justice's involvement, I would have also been disinformed by your reporting. If you have any interest in informing yourself fully on the details absent in your reporting, please feel free to contact me at 212.677.4080. I will be happy to meet with you and demonstrate the name.space service and answer any qusetions you may have...and I'll forgive you if you really were unaware! Best regards, Paul Garrin president pgMedia, Inc./NAME.SPACE http://name.space http://name.space.xs2.net

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Cartel Leaders Set Snipers To Work In Border War
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

According to this article, the home addresses of government agents are being solicited by Mexican drug dealers, for disposal of agents interfering in their business. Between anonymous remailers and payment systems, a real Assassination Politics market could be set up. Don't even need untraceable e-cash, though this would be better. Glad I'm not a DEA or INS agent. --Tim May > Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 22:42:08 -0700 (PDT) > Message-ID: <199708150542.WAA25283(a)sirius.infonex.com> > From: Mix <mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com> > Comments: This message did not originate from the address above. It was remailed by an anonymous remailing service. If you have questions or complaints, please direct them to <complaints(a)remail.obscura.com> > Subject: Cartel Leaders Set Snipers To Work In Border War > Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns,misc.legal,misc.survivalism,alt.news-media,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.media,alt.politics.clinton > Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster(a)nym.alias.net > Organization: mail2news(a)nym.alias.net > Lines: 58 ... > Cartel leaders set snipers to work in border 'war' > By John Hiscock Electronic Telegraph, London > > August 11, 1997 > > AMERICAN Border Patrol agents have become targets of snipers working > for drug smugglers trying to take control of the border with Mexico. A > five-mile strip of frontier near San Diego in California has become so > dangerous that a specially-trained squad of border patrol sentries > armed with assault rifles has been drafted in to combat the snipers, > who have fired at agents seven times in the past two months. > > The agents believe that Mexican drug cartel leaders have issued > instructions to kill any law enforcement officers impeding drug > smuggling operations. Their fears have been heightened by a bulletin > from the Immigration and Naturalisation Service that said two drug > cartel leaders in the Mexican border city of Tijuana had "reportedly > contracted with local gangs on both sides of the border to kill > federal law enforcement personnel", preferably on American soil. In > addition, officers recently received reports that cartel henchmen have > put a price on their heads by offering to pay £7,000 for the > home address of any United States federal agent. > > Dianne Feinstein, a Californian senator, says that border patrol > agents, whose job until recently was to arrest mainly frightened and > unarmed Mexicans trying to cross the frontier at night, are now in the > front line of a vicious drug war. "This is a border on alert, a border > where anything could happen," she said. "These cartels are moving > drugs across the border and are operating with impunity and that adds > an increased risk to the lives of border patrol agents. This is a > different border than it was two years ago." > > In addition to being the most popular spot for illegal aliens > attempting to cross, the border around San Diego is now the main > gateway for cocaine and heroin bound for the US. Since the > introduction of Operation Gatekeeper, President Clinton's 1994 > anti-illegal alien initiative that poured more money and agents into > the San Diego area, the drug smugglers have found themselves > increasingly caught up in the patrols' swoops on illegal > border-crossers. > > "We've made it increasingly difficult for drug traffic," said John > Williams, the chief of San Diego's 2,000-strong border patrol sector. > "We're making it tough on crime and that certainly has some bearing on > their reaction. The escalation of violence is of grave concern to me > and my agents." > > Members of the elite special protection unit carry M-16 assault > rifles, with a range of more than a mile, while all agents are now > being issued with semi-automatic pistols and shotguns. -- There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Cartel Leaders Set Snipers To Work In Border War
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > > According to this article, the home addresses of government agents are > being solicited by Mexican drug dealers, for disposal of agents > interfering in their business. A major thrust of the article deals with the government promotion of the idea that the "bad guys" have actively declared war upon agents of the U.S. government, on U.S. soil. Strange that this claim should come from a variety of sources at the same time the government is facing the embarassment of having to whitwash the actions of heavily armed, camouflaged Marines who felt so threatened by a goat-herder with a .22 rifle that they slaughtered him with their M-16's, despite the fact that the child was an American citizen, doing what he had every right to do, on American soil. The drug cartels are having such little trouble getting drugs into the U.S. that cocaine and heroine are cheaper than a bottle of good Scotch, yet, according to the government, they have decided that it is necessary to perform actions which will "force" the government to 'crack down' on border terrorism with increasing use of armed force. Right... I bet the child pornography cartels are arming themselves, even as we speak, preparing to join the drug cartels in their war against the U.S. governement. We'd better send some Marines to Denver, New York City, and Fargo. Then everybody but the high-school goat herders will feel much safer, I'm sure. GiveMeAFuckingBreakMonger "There is something wrong when U.S. armed forces murder American schoolchildren on American soil, under an increasing number of unconstitutional laws." > > Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 22:42:08 -0700 (PDT) > > Message-ID: <199708150542.WAA25283(a)sirius.infonex.com> > > From: Mix <mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com> > > Comments: This message did not originate from the address above. It was > remailed by an anonymous remailing service. If you have questions or > complaints, please direct them to <complaints(a)remail.obscura.com> > > Subject: Cartel Leaders Set Snipers To Work In Border War > > Newsgroups: > talk.politics.guns,misc.legal,misc.survivalism,alt.news-media,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.media,alt.politics.clinton > > Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster(a)nym.alias.net > > Organization: mail2news(a)nym.alias.net > > Lines: 58 > ... > > Cartel leaders set snipers to work in border 'war' > > By John Hiscock Electronic Telegraph, London > > > > August 11, 1997 > > > > AMERICAN Border Patrol agents have become targets of snipers working > > for drug smugglers trying to take control of the border with Mexico. A > > five-mile strip of frontier near San Diego in California has become so > > dangerous that a specially-trained squad of border patrol sentries > > armed with assault rifles has been drafted in to combat the snipers, > > who have fired at agents seven times in the past two months. > > > > The agents believe that Mexican drug cartel leaders have issued > > instructions to kill any law enforcement officers impeding drug > > smuggling operations. Their fears have been heightened by a bulletin > > from the Immigration and Naturalisation Service that said two drug > > cartel leaders in the Mexican border city of Tijuana had "reportedly > > contracted with local gangs on both sides of the border to kill > > federal law enforcement personnel", preferably on American soil. In > > addition, officers recently received reports that cartel henchmen have > > put a price on their heads by offering to pay £7,000 for the > > home address of any United States federal agent. > > > > Dianne Feinstein, a Californian senator, says that border patrol > > agents, whose job until recently was to arrest mainly frightened and > > unarmed Mexicans trying to cross the frontier at night, are now in the > > front line of a vicious drug war. "This is a border on alert, a border > > where anything could happen," she said. "These cartels are moving > > drugs across the border and are operating with impunity and that adds > > an increased risk to the lives of border patrol agents. This is a > > different border than it was two years ago." > > > > In addition to being the most popular spot for illegal aliens > > attempting to cross, the border around San Diego is now the main > > gateway for cocaine and heroin bound for the US. Since the > > introduction of Operation Gatekeeper, President Clinton's 1994 > > anti-illegal alien initiative that poured more money and agents into > > the San Diego area, the drug smugglers have found themselves > > increasingly caught up in the patrols' swoops on illegal > > border-crossers. > > > > "We've made it increasingly difficult for drug traffic," said John > > Williams, the chief of San Diego's 2,000-strong border patrol sector. > > "We're making it tough on crime and that certainly has some bearing on > > their reaction. The escalation of violence is of grave concern to me > > and my agents." > > > > Members of the elite special protection unit carry M-16 assault > > rifles, with a range of more than a mile, while all agents are now > > being issued with semi-automatic pistols and shotguns. > > -- > There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. > ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- > Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, > tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero > W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, > Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. > "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Electronic Surveillance Indices
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From the Privacy Act Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] [DOCID:jus_fbi-7] DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE JUSTICE/FBI 006 System name: Electronic Surveillance (Elsur) Indices. System location: Federal Bureau of Investigation, J. Edgar Hoover Bldg., 10th and Pennvylvania Ave., NW, Washington, DC 20535. Those field offices which have sought conducted electronic surveillances also maintain an index. See appendix to System 022. Categories of individuals covered by the system: Individuals who have been the targets of direct electronic surveillance coverage by FBI in a court order; those whose communications have been monitored/intercepted by an FBI electronic surveillance installation; those who won, lease, or license premises subjected to electronic surveillance coverage sought by the FBI in a court order. Categories of records in the system: The ELSUR Index is comprised of three types of 3 x 5 cards: 1. Principal cards identify, by true name or best known name, all interceptees (targets) identified in an application filed by the FBI in support of an affidavit seeking a court order to conduct an electronic surveillance; 2. Proprietary Interest cards identify entities and/or individuals who own, lease, license or otherwise hold a possessory interest in locations subjected to an electronic surveillance sought by the FBI in a court order; and, 3. Overhear cards identify, by true name or best known name, individuals and/or entities who have been reasonably identified by a first name or initial and a last name a being a party to a communication monitored/ intercepted by the FBI. Authority for maintenance of the system: The ELSUR Index was initiated in October, 1966, at the recommendation of the Department of Justice and relates to electronic surveillances conducted/ sought by the FBI since 1/1/60. The authority for the maintenance of these records is Title 5, Section 301, USC, which grants the Attorney General the authority to issue rules and regulations prescribing how Department of Justice information can be employed. Title 18, U.S.C., Section 3504, also sets forth recordkeeeping requirements. Routine uses of records maintained in the system, including categories of users and the purposes of such uses: The Elsur Indices are utilized: (1) To respond to judicial inquiries about possible electronic surveillance coverage of witnesses, defendants, or attorneys involved in Federal court proceedings, and (2) To enable the Government to certify whether a person regarding whom court-order authority is being sought for electronic coverage has ever been so covered in the past. The actual users of the indices are always employees of the FBI. In addition, information may be released to the news media and the public pursuant to 28 CFR 50.2 unless it is determined that release of the specific information in the context of a particular case would constitute an unwarranted invasion of personal privacy; Member of Congress or staff acting upon the member's behalf when the member or staff requests the information on behalf of and at the request of the individual who is the subject of the record; and, to the National Archives and Records Administration and the General Services Administration in records management inspections conducted under the authority of 44 U.S.C. 2904 and 2908 to the extent that legislation governing the records permits. Policies and practices for storing, retrieving, accessing, retaining, and disposing of records in the system: Storage: The records are maintained manually on 3 x 5 cards. Retrievability: Names/facilities are indexed and filed alphabetically. Telephone numbers and other such serial or identification numbers targeted are indexed and filed numerically. Locations targeted are indexed by address and filed by street name. Safeguards: The index is maintained in a restricted access room at all times. The entrance is equipped with a special locking device and alarm system for off-duty hours when the index is not in use. Retention and disposal: Until advised to the contrary by the Department, the courts or Congress, these indices will be maintained indefinitely. The indices have been declared permanent by NARA. (Job No. NC1-65-82--4, Part E. 2. t.) System manager(s) and address: Director, Federal Bureau of Investigation, Washington, DC 20535. Notification procedure: Same as the above. Record access procedures: Inquiry addressed to Director, FBI, Washington, DC 20535. Contesting record procedures: Same as the above. Record source categories: Category of Individual. Systems exempted from certain provisions of the act: The Attorney General has exempted this system from subsections (c) (3) and (4), (d), (e) (1), (2) and (3), (e)(4) (G) and (H), (e) (5) and (8), (f), (g) and (m) of the Privacy Act pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 552a(j). Rules have been promulgated in accordance with the requirements of 5 U.S.C. 553 (b), (c) and (e) and have been published in the Federal Register.

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Export Transactions Espionage
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From the Privacy Act Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] [DOCID:commer-31] DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE COMMERCE/ITA-1 System name: Individuals Identified in Export Transactions-- COMMERCE/ITA-1. System location: Office of Export Administration, ITA, U.S. Department of Commerce, 14th St. and Constitution Ave., NW, Washington, DC 20230. Categories of individuals covered by the system: a. Individuals involved in export transactions. Information is maintained on domestic and foreign companies and business officials, and includes U.S. citizens involved with or working for firms abroad. b. Individuals identified in an export administration compliance proceeding or investigation. Individuals alleged to have violated the Export Administration regulations; established violators of the regulations; certain other individuals identified by the FBI or other investigating agency or individual in the investigative process such as those involved in organized crime; and individuals who have received warning letters. Categories of records in the system: Reports and cables from U.S. foreign service posts. Reports from F.B.I., other law enforcement or investigative agencies, investigators, or informants; investigative and intelligence data; documented violations; warning letters. Includes any information on alleged or proven violators of the Export Administration Act. Authority for maintenance of the system: Export Administration Act of 1979 (Pub. L. 96-72, 50 U.S.C. App. et seq.). 5 U.S.C. 301, 28 U.S.C. 533-535, 44 U.S.C. 3101. Routine uses of records maintained in the system, including categories of users and the purposes of such uses: See routine use paragraphs 1-5 and 8-13 of the Prefatory Statement. Policies and practices for storing, retrieving, accessing, retaining, and disposing of records in the system: Storage: Paper records in file folders. Retrievability: Information filed by case or subject file. All names are cross-referenced by name card file. Safeguards: Records are located in lockable metal file cabinets or in metal file cabinets in secured rooms or secured premises with access limited to those whose official duties require access. Retention and disposal: Retained for a reasonable period of time. Disposition is recorded. System manager(s) and address: Director, Compliance Division, Office of Export Administration, ITA, U.S. Department of Commerce, Washington, DC 20230. Notification procedure: Information may be obtained from: Privacy Officer, Office of Management and Systems, ITA, Room 3102, U.S. Department of Commerce, Washington, DC 20230. Requester should provide name, address, and case or subject, if known, pursuant to the inquiry provisions of the Department's rules which appear in 15 CFR part 4b. Record access procedures: Requests from individuals should be addressed to: Same address as stated in the notification section above. Contesting record procedures: The Department's rules for access, for contesting contents, and appealing intial determinations by the individual concerned appear in 15 CFR part 4b. Use above address. Record source categories: Individual exporters, those authorized by the individual exporters to furnish information, trade sources, investigative agencies, intelligence, investigative and other personnel of the Office of Export Administration, informants, CIA, FBI, Justice Department, Defense Department, Energy Department, and State Department. Systems exempted from certain provisions of the act: Pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 552a(j)(2), all information about an individual in the record which meets the criteria stated in 5 U.S.C. 552a(j)(2) are exempted from the notice, access and contest requirements of the agency regulations and from all parts of 5 U.S.C. 552a except subsections (b), (c)(1) and (2), (e)(4)(A) through (F), (e)(6), (7), (9), (10), and (11), and (i), and pursuant to 5 U.S.C. 552a(k)(1) and (k)(2) on condition that the 5 U.S.C. 552a(j)(2) exemption is held to be invalid, all investigatory material in the record which meets the criteria stated in 5 U.S.C. 552a(k)(1) and (k)(2) are exempted from the notice, access, and contest requirements (under 5 U.S.C. 552a(c)(3), (d), (e)(1), (e)(4)(G), (H), and (I), and (f)) of the agency regulations because of the necessity to exempt this information and material in order to accomplish this law enforcement function of the agency, to prevent subjects of investigation from frustrating the investigatory process, to prevent the disclosure of investigative techniques, to fulfill commitments made to protect the confidentiality of sources, to maintain access to sources of information, and to avoid endangering these sources and law enforcement personnel. Section 12(c) of the Export Administration Act of 1979 also protects certain of this information and material related to export licenses from disclosure.

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Re: Remailer hating Nazis (was Re: The BIG Lie (Jesus
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Patrick Oonk <patrick(a)atro.pine.nl> wrote: >Flaming me through a remailer is the equivalent of shouting >'hey asshole!' and then running away. Children do it often. Maybe you should stop being such an asshole to those children.

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Re: Cartel Leaders Set Snipers To Work In Border War
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: > Glad I'm not a DEA or INS agent. > > Cartel leaders set snipers to work in border 'war' > > By John Hiscock Electronic Telegraph, London > > AMERICAN Border Patrol agents have become targets of snipers working > > for drug smugglers trying to take control of the border with Mexico. A > > five-mile strip of frontier near San Diego in California has become so > > dangerous that a specially-trained squad of border patrol sentries > > armed with assault rifles has been drafted in to combat the snipers, > > who have fired at agents seven times in the past two months. Replacing the Marines who murdered an American teenager. Funny that the drug cartels never felt a need to assassinate border patrol agents until the American public found it unacceptable for U.S. troops to be murdering American citizens. > > The agents believe that Mexican drug cartel leaders have issued > > instructions to kill any law enforcement officers impeding drug > > smuggling operations. Their fears have been heightened by a bulletin > > from the Immigration and Naturalisation Service that said two drug > > cartel leaders in the Mexican border city of Tijuana had "reportedly > > contracted with local gangs on both sides of the border to kill > > federal law enforcement personnel", preferably on American soil. In > > addition, officers recently received reports that cartel henchmen have > > put a price on their heads by offering to pay £7,000 for the > > home address of any United States federal agent. Have they "received reports" as to the logic behind these actions by the cartel "henchmen?" Do the cartel henchmen think that the assassinated U.S. agents will not be replaced? Do they think that assassinating U.S. agents will lead to lessened security along the border? Do they expect the U.S. governement to put up "Welcome Drug Smugglers...We Surrender" posters all along the border? Right. I got a parking ticket, so I'm going to put out a contract on the meter-maid. That'll solve all my parking ticket problems. Then the police will leave me alone. Why didn't I think of this before? > > Dianne Feinstein, a Californian senator, says that border patrol > > agents, whose job until recently was to arrest mainly frightened and > > unarmed Mexicans trying to cross the frontier at night, are now in the > > front line of a vicious drug war. "This is a border on alert, a border > > where anything could happen," she said. "These cartels are moving > > drugs across the border and are operating with impunity and that adds > > an increased risk to the lives of border patrol agents. This is a > > different border than it was two years ago." The cartels only began moving drugs across the border in the last two years? Border Patrol agents have never been shot at before? Are the drug cartel snipers worse shots than the U.S. marines? How many American teenage goat herders have the drug cartels murdered so far? > > Since the > > introduction of Operation Gatekeeper, President Clinton's 1994 > > anti-illegal alien initiative that poured more money and agents into > > the San Diego area, the drug smugglers have found themselves > > increasingly caught up in the patrols' swoops on illegal > > border-crossers. > > > > "We've made it increasingly difficult for drug traffic," said John > > Williams, the chief of San Diego's 2,000-strong border patrol sector. This explains why America is practically drug-free, with only twice as many grade school children using heroin as at this time last year. If we can keep up the pressure along the border, perhaps one day _all_ of our children will be junkies. Good reasoning... > > "We're making it tough on crime and that certainly has some bearing on > > their reaction. The escalation of violence is of grave concern to me > > and my agents." > > > > Members of the elite special protection unit carry M-16 assault > > rifles, with a range of more than a mile, while all agents are now > > being issued with semi-automatic pistols and shotguns. And this is going to protect them from snipers and hired assassins who the drug cartels are sending to their homes to murder them? How many illegal immigrants and American border citizens are going to be killed in "mistaken self-defence" before they consider it is now necessary to arm themselves for protection? How far will the Border Patrol need to feed the "escalation of violence" before the President feels comfortable to once again begin unconstitutionally using the Armed Forces to enforce laws internally in the U.S.? Why do these idiots go to such great lengths to spread FUD as a smokescreen to help whitewash the murder of American citizens by U.S. Armed Forces being unconstitutionally deployed internally within the U.S.? The Border Patrol has always had the authority to use armed agents to defend our borders, and they have always had special units to deal with areas which have become more violent than usual. The latest "announcements" have nothing to do with "news." They have to do with smokescreen-FUD. TruthMonger

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