Cartel Leaders Set Snipers To Work In Border War
According to this article, the home addresses of government agents are being solicited by Mexican drug dealers, for disposal of agents interfering in their business. Between anonymous remailers and payment systems, a real Assassination Politics market could be set up. Don't even need untraceable e-cash, though this would be better. Glad I'm not a DEA or INS agent. --Tim May
Date: Thu, 14 Aug 1997 22:42:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <199708150542.WAA25283@sirius.infonex.com> From: Mix <mixmaster@remail.obscura.com> Comments: This message did not originate from the address above. It was remailed by an anonymous remailing service. If you have questions or complaints, please direct them to <complaints@remail.obscura.com> Subject: Cartel Leaders Set Snipers To Work In Border War Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns,misc.legal,misc.survivalism,alt.news-media,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.media,alt.politics.clinton Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Organization: mail2news@nym.alias.net Lines: 58 ... Cartel leaders set snipers to work in border 'war' By John Hiscock Electronic Telegraph, London
August 11, 1997
AMERICAN Border Patrol agents have become targets of snipers working for drug smugglers trying to take control of the border with Mexico. A five-mile strip of frontier near San Diego in California has become so dangerous that a specially-trained squad of border patrol sentries armed with assault rifles has been drafted in to combat the snipers, who have fired at agents seven times in the past two months.
The agents believe that Mexican drug cartel leaders have issued instructions to kill any law enforcement officers impeding drug smuggling operations. Their fears have been heightened by a bulletin from the Immigration and Naturalisation Service that said two drug cartel leaders in the Mexican border city of Tijuana had "reportedly contracted with local gangs on both sides of the border to kill federal law enforcement personnel", preferably on American soil. In addition, officers recently received reports that cartel henchmen have put a price on their heads by offering to pay £7,000 for the home address of any United States federal agent.
Dianne Feinstein, a Californian senator, says that border patrol agents, whose job until recently was to arrest mainly frightened and unarmed Mexicans trying to cross the frontier at night, are now in the front line of a vicious drug war. "This is a border on alert, a border where anything could happen," she said. "These cartels are moving drugs across the border and are operating with impunity and that adds an increased risk to the lives of border patrol agents. This is a different border than it was two years ago."
In addition to being the most popular spot for illegal aliens attempting to cross, the border around San Diego is now the main gateway for cocaine and heroin bound for the US. Since the introduction of Operation Gatekeeper, President Clinton's 1994 anti-illegal alien initiative that poured more money and agents into the San Diego area, the drug smugglers have found themselves increasingly caught up in the patrols' swoops on illegal border-crossers.
"We've made it increasingly difficult for drug traffic," said John Williams, the chief of San Diego's 2,000-strong border patrol sector. "We're making it tough on crime and that certainly has some bearing on their reaction. The escalation of violence is of grave concern to me and my agents."
Members of the elite special protection unit carry M-16 assault rifles, with a range of more than a mile, while all agents are now being issued with semi-automatic pistols and shotguns.
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On Fri, 15 Aug 1997, Tim May wrote:
According to this article, the home addresses of government agents are being solicited by Mexican drug dealers, for disposal of agents interfering in their business.
Between anonymous remailers and payment systems, a real Assassination Politics market could be set up. Don't even need untraceable e-cash, though this would be better.
Glad I'm not a DEA or INS agent.
--Tim May
Or, if our government actually got smart, they could offer a bounty on the Mexican drug lords. There are a lot more poor people in mexico. A Mequilladora (spelling?) to export drug policy? I think if they offered to make Tijuiana a protectorate and infuse a billion or two in cash after the last drug lord was eliminated the border problems would cease. If you wanted to use individual bounties, the problem is proving that you were the one who killed the target. Snipers usually can't wait around to collect the scalp (Encrypted VCR through the viewfinder maybe?). I think that Harry Browne suggested this more economic approach to terrorists in his book and campaign last year. But the US doesn't consider this "fair". They would rather send our military in as they did in Haiti and Panama, have lots of people on both sides killed, and bring them back for a show trial, or battle to a stalemate like with Iraq and Somalia. But instead, they are going to raid the homes of more people who install central air conditioning so their electric bills go up, which is reported to the police who cannot concieve of anything except a basement full of grow-lites over marijuana plants as using any electricity. 10 years from now they will still probably be paying informants in person with $20 bills with consecutive serial numbers, but only if they insist on not getting a check or direct deposit :). Where is BCCI when you need it. New BCCI - Bits of Credit and Commerce on the Internet. --- reply to tzeruch - at - ceddec - dot - com ---
On Fri, 15 Aug 1997 nospam-seesignature@ceddec.com wrote:
Or, if our government actually got smart, they could offer a bounty on the Mexican drug lords. There are a lot more poor people in mexico. A Mequilladora (spelling?) to export drug policy? I think if they offered to make Tijuiana a protectorate and infuse a billion or two in cash after the last drug lord was eliminated the border problems would cease.
Of course they aren't going to do that. The FEDs make way too much money on the drugs anyway. If they weren't, they would have closed down the trade a long time ago, or legalized it to make money off the taxes. It's all ecconomic. But they're making much more money this way than if it were sold and taxed legally. Everything that's illegal comes down to tax money. From drugs to prostition to murder to gambling. Yes, even suicide: if you kill yourself, you won't work, so they get less tax money.
But the US doesn't consider this "fair". They would rather send our military in as they did in Haiti and Panama, have lots of people on both sides killed, and bring them back for a show trial, or battle to a stalemate like with Iraq and Somalia.
Hey, them marines and army boys need to cut their teeth on some real action once in a while or else they get soft, wouldn't want that, would we? If I remember my history correctly, and I probably don't, either FDR or Teddy, durring the depression hired two sets of crews of people. On set to dig a ditch, the other to fill it, and the next day it would be dug again, so that they could have jobs and get paid and stimulate the ecconomy. Same deal. Military get target practice, Feds capture and resell the dope, buy weapons to sell to Iran or whatever, local cops bust down the door, the hardware and home supply stores get money in sales and installation of doors and windows busted by the local cops, etc... Only ones who wind up losing are the citizen units. The drug dealers aren't hurt much. Sure they need to ice one or two off every once in a while to give the appearance of a justice system, but, the rest go out on the street to sell again.
But instead, they are going to raid the homes of more people who install central air conditioning so their electric bills go up, which is reported to the police who cannot concieve of anything except a basement full of grow-lites over marijuana plants as using any electricity.
Of course, keeps the citizen units in line. And heck with the new laws pretty soon they'll be applied to EVERYTHING, not just business with guns... pretty soon they'll raid people's homes and confiscate everything whether they find something illegal or not... just to hold it for 50-200 years for um, evidence, yeah, um, that's it. And boy, that's a mighty fine leather couch the Jones bought yesterday, you know, we should raid them just incase it's full of heroin, them cushions are mighty soft, no? And heck, we just happen to have a perfect spot for it in our precinct recreation room. :) And boy, that land on Ruby Ridge looks mighty fertile, you know I bet they're growing marijuana plants in the trees... We could use it to build a park, heck... And shit that Koresh compound, let's burn it and say they commited suicide and raped their kids... we could use the land and come out looking good...
10 years from now they will still probably be paying informants in person with $20 bills with consecutive serial numbers, but only if they insist on not getting a check or direct deposit :). Where is BCCI when you need it.
Naw, that's not how it's done, they'll pay'em with counterfit $20's and then arrest them when they hit the grocery store to buy a six pack and some milk, then when they get'em at the stationhouse they'll stuff'em in the bathroom to be sodomized and beat up with toilet plungers and brooms. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if the cops had a small dope quota every month to plant as evidence in the cars of the people they ticket for speeding, or having tinted windows, or actually using their turn signal lights. And hey, here's a thought, let's pass some more laws and like confiscate cars that are speeding. Heck, we ain't makin' enough money as is from stealing cars off the street for parking for more than five minutes... =====================================Kaos=Keraunos=Kybernetos============== .+.^.+.| Ray Arachelian |Prying open my 3rd eye. So good to see |./|\. ..\|/..|sunder@sundernet.com|you once again. I thought you were |/\|/\ <--*-->| ------------------ |hiding, and you thought that I had run |\/|\/ ../|\..| "A toast to Odin, |away chasing the tail of dogma. I opened|.\|/. .+.v.+.|God of screwdrivers"|my eye and there we were.... |..... ======================= http://www.sundernet.com ==========================
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