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Re: The Emotional Killer (or out of the frying pan and into the electric chair?)
by Bruce Baugh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is off-topic; anyone wanting to follow up on it, e-mail me on the side. At 11:59 PM 2/11/96 -0500, tallpaul(a)pipeline.com (tallpaul) wrote: >This and other posts by J. Bell and other lib'bers Jim Bell is pretty much exactly as relevant to libertarian thought as Lyndon LaRouche is to Democratic thought - that is, he's a crank, whom we prefer to ignore where possible. I, for one, filter his messages straight to Eudora's Trash mailbox. If you want to sample a different variety of libertarianism, check out the URL in my sig file and look at the Christlib list. Or, for that matter, simply leaf through REASON and LIBERTY magazine, and note the variety of folks actually _doing_ things that promote "human freedom for everyone" as well as talking about it. It's not as much fun as ad hominem, I admit, but in the long run I think it's more useful. Bruce Baugh bruce(a)aracnet.com http://www.aracnet.com/~bruce

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Firewall USA to Firewall China
by sophi＠best.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At the meeting on saturday the idea of a Firewall USA was discussed. Here's a quote from Jim Clark CEO of Netscape on the idea of a Firewall China, just for comparison. Q: The Chinese government has declared its intention to filter out what it considers to be objectionable material from the Internet. If you were a consultant for the Chinese government, what technology would you recommend that they use to do that? A: A lot of people think that's not possible. It's difficult to enforce, but it's certainly possible. A corporation has a so-called fire wall -- a single point of entry into the corporate net. You can have a country that has a single point of entry into its "country net." It's doable. All you need, though, is one breach of security, and there's a leak. A fire wall is a filter -- it filters and doesn't let certain people come in. You can only come in if you have the right permission. So you could easily set that up so that it would filter out your objectionable material. this is a temp .sig

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cypherpunks t shirts, anymore?
by Oscar Boykin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I know someone that got bought a black sypherpunks t shirt with warning strong crypto on it. Are there any more of these? I would like to purchase a large. Please contact me if you know anything. oscar boykin mailto:boykin@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~boykin home: 404-206-0477

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NRL IPv6 code
by Perry E. Metzger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've just mailed off to Sameer Parekh the January '96 release of the NRL IPv6 sources. For those not in the know, this code implements the IPsec protocol for both IPv4 and IPv6. IPsec is a cryptographic protocol for securing IP datagrams -- it is now an IETF Proposed Standard, defined in RFCs 1825-1829. The code probably could use some work, but its not bad and a reasonable start for all sorts of work. This is a new version that reportedly has lots of bug fixes -- I'm also given the impression it may be the last NRL release of this code because the people doing the work have left there -- if it gets adopted by the BSD community, it will probably end up integrated into future NetBSD, BSDI and FreeBSDs, which would be where to look for future releases. The code should drop into BSDI almost out of the box -- it requires more work for NetBSD and FreeBSD. Perry PS Sorry to interrupt the discussion of the sex life of the Aloe Vera plant with something as irrelevant as cryptography. I can't resist sometimes.

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Re: Using /dev/random for PGP key generation? Be Wary
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- rngaugp(a)alpha.c2.org wrote in the c'punks list: > Subject: Using /dev/random for PGP key generation? Be Wary > > I have created a modified version of pgpi for use with a hardware random > number generators. Recently, there has been some confusion because > people have assumed that I wished people to use this version with > NOISE.SYS or an RNG that gathers entropy from timing events called > /dev/random. My concern, since there is a DOS version available according to your announcement (and this applies to OS/2 and Linux compilations as well) is that your version assumes /dev/random produces a continuous stream rather than bursts of data limited to how much entropy is gathered. A poor implementation even with a good driver is disasterous. [..] > Be assured that I originally planed the modification to be used with a > real hardware RNG. I tested it with the CALNET/NEWBRIGE RNG under DOS > and OS/2. The "RNGDRIVER" feature I tested with OS/2 and the driver in > RNG810.ZIP available at ftp.cdrom.com. Hmmm... I'll have to check that out. [..] > I am unsure about using my modification, together with these drivers > that are not connected to a real hardware RNG. In what way would the use > of these drivers' methods of gathering entropy be superior to PGP's > method of getting entropy from keyboard timing? If you choose to do > something like this, you should think carefully and make a careful study > of the code. I'm curious as to what method you tyest the hardware RNG's entropy? [..] > made to work. But careful thought an careful design should be done > first. Yep. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMR/s2yoZzwIn1bdtAQEdeAF/XFFki97J+phJv76eMZXcMyHt1ChjN3FD PsMvsq03g/QHYfAMhb25qoSp5H6F5HFZ =2l/3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Crypto Regulation Reform
by m5＠vail.tivoli.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Robert Cain writes: > > Would disclosing the encryption algorithm put your patent claim at > > risk? > > 'Fraid so. R, S and A almost blew it by disclosing theirs in a paper > before filing. So your encryption algorithm (not the key exchange part; the bit-stream encryptor) is not a well-known (or at least published) algorithm? Hmm... -- | GOOD TIME FOR MOVIE - GOING ||| Mike McNally <m5(a)tivoli.com> | | TAKE TWA TO CAIRO. ||| Tivoli Systems, Austin, TX: | | (actual fortune cookie) ||| "Like A Little Bit of Semi-Heaven" |

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fwd: Meeks on telcos sharing local call info
by tbyfield＠panix.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>This is forwarded from: > >Date: Tue, 6 Feb 1996 20:17:43 -0800 >From: "Brock N. Meeks" <brock(a)well.com> >To: cwd-l(a)cyberwerks.com >Subject: CWD--We're Not in Kansas Anymore Sender: owner-cwd-l(a)cyberwerks.com > >CyberWire Dispatch // Copyright (c) 1996 // > >Jacking in from the "Abandon All Hope" Port: > >Washington, DC -- >Howard Stern's Private Parts >========================== > >Although Howard Stern's privacy (is this an oxymoron?) isn't in question >here, your privacy is. > >The bill basically allows the telephone companies to use the data they have >on you in any way they see fit, with one caveat: They must provide the same >access to that information to competitors, if asked. As long as they don't >hog all your private data, such as how many times >you call Domino's Pizza or whether you're an avid QVC network shopper, they >can sell your data to just about anyone and use it internal in ways that >should make your skin crawl. > >This is all laid out in admittedly banal Congress speak: "A local exchange >carrier (that's your local phone company) may use, disclose, or permit >access to aggregate customer information... only if it provides such >aggregate information to other carriers or persons on reasonable and >nondiscriminatory terms and conditions up reasonable request therefore." > >In other words, bend over and kiss your sweet aggregate good-bye. > >Meeks out... >--- end forwarded text

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NSA Mouse pad
by Greg Rose 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I got a mouse pad in the mail today, mailed in Maryland, but otherwise in a plain brown envelope. It has nice, understated gold seal announcing it is from the National Security Agency's Information Systems Security Organization. Obviously it wasn't export controlled. I met these people at the recent USENIX conference; there was an Air Force related trade show in the center next door to the San Diego Marriott. I was looking for people to submit papers to the upcoming USENIX Unix and Network Security Conference in San Jose in July. The deadline for extended abstracts is one month away (hint, hint). Greg. -- Greg Rose INTERNET: greg_rose(a)sydney.sterling.com Sterling Software VOICE: +61-2-9975 4777 FAX: +61-2-9975 2921 28 Rodborough Rd. http://www.sydney.sterling.com:8080/~ggr/ French's Forest 35 0A 79 7D 5E 21 8D 47 E3 53 75 66 AC FB D9 45 NSW 2086 Australia. co-mod sci.crypt.research, USENIX Director.

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Re: Cypherpunks vs. Coderpunks [CORRECTION]
by lmccarth＠cs.umass.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I wrote: > If you want to join coderpunks, my life is made slightly easier if you > mailto:coderpunks-request@toad.com rather than sending directly to me. <sigh> the coderpunks-request address will work, but mailto:coderpunks-approval@toad.com is actually the address that prompts Majordomo to send me a nicely formatted subscription template, and makes my life a little easier. Sorry about the blather. I plead sleep deprivation. Futplex <futplex(a)pseudonym.com> (Volunteer) Coderpunks Bouncer -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMSAeNinaAKQPVHDZAQEYawf9HbnbJLfd9HnCp7hoYHoW6pMAm8fTgcmk 0SkAHoeUsh7neNwEtYAt+KTCv65fS3/YY5Tt8JmQ8D19q5tjjfggYuEfEdqC71FK 16WAKbDN66ucpQmdNkfWExafr4Cw+7jhW3VpJIByDIRdS9opLfK5VNwVETaRHstR bBal9Cr397siQ9WsXYWfw7w3tLxg54T3NP/sXcyNHQ+C6ZJSxUXB1YEFossKCduf cJp3KWfi2IKcD65fy05W164DQmtcL42iwkgHUQoCwilZYE+PEuAOTMqu26dfeTqu iil9dLIEd7lEkHxlFU2ufHDCoSj89zO515FRV1/B+33T8bqzJt3OdA== =a85O -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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John Gilmore the fascist cocksucker
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.31) John Gilmore is a fascist cocksucker Sandy Sandfort is a censorous motherfucker John Gilmore is a fascist cocksucker Sandy Sandfort is a censorous motherfucker John Gilmore is a fascist cocksucker Sandy Sandfort is a censorous motherfucker John Gilmore is a fascist cocksucker Sandy Sandfort is a censorous motherfucker Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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