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Re: The Illusion of Freedom
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Nerthus wrote: >>"Okay soldier, let's see that pass!" Is this the treatment accorded >>to a free man? > >Clearly not. Let me rephrase what I said since it appears it was not >as obvious as I had thought. > >Those who wage war (the politicians/"kings") are rarely the slaves. >Those who die (the soldiers/citizens) usually are. Oh, I see what you mean now. Thanks for the explanation. >The soldiers and citizens are the pawns and other chessmen on the >chessboard who are sacrificed to protect the king of their color >while attempting to checkmate the king of the other color. All >chessmen are expendable, except the two kings. When one of the kings >is checkmated, the game is over. Leaving the loser to slouch off toward Doorn, St. Helena, or Asuncion to die. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNHuFEZaWtjSmRH/5AQGwGQf+JSwEqXrgjYRcCmBpsHP/IU0SUbjaoekk 0oqF+dvY0QCtf3NwSYKClLg+vB+lIjRYR6qqgr2wvnVGyElC1A2VJUjjuUuvb1BH 27Uu2ldFFKfg4S715TpgktkysuuldqEMWfClJfgNkLFB3whjbSRWZhqQwWdDhnkB sHxj5RbFWZ0yWTcBc0v6Z+NPEok0zMWIkyg3Reazprjjgpn1vxdZMLLmSz9iK0gO tmhASDQ6et9APOzakbH9+pcsLutvkH/LGmwbkadL2DxD3Mlp2xNylOIUBbzPO0yX qbnvkEy01pw+6M/D9C6GIKyIHlubiIvOHCYv8EQSNAbDc3+KNQQusA== =JniS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Junk E-Mail Remover software
by Ed Bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Defense of the Homeland
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The National Defense Panel is to release its study tomorrow, "Defense of the Homeland," which recommends that Defense focus on domestic protection from weapons of mass destruction: http://jya.com/ndp-wmd.htm In line with this, and Tim's NBC prognostications, the Department of Health and Human Services Office of Emergency Prepareness has a new Web site which describes its domestic counter terrorism program: http://www.oep_ndms.dhhs.gov/oep/terrorism/terrorism.html These tidbits derive from the new list "Terrorism-L," which offers terrifying scenarios for apocalypse by friend and foe and voodoo doll, and survivalist tips for first responders: "There's nothing we could do." To subscribe, send E-mail to listserv(a)mediccom.org with the following text in the message body: SUBSCRIBE terrorism

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Re: Freemen and Serfs
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This model of "sheeple" doomed to slavery while cypherpunks comfortably live independent of the state is even less plausible than the original idea of crypto anarchy. It appeals to our elitist instincts and makes us feel comfortably superior, but it has little connection to reality. This idea overlooks the "fax effect", where the value of a technology rises in proportion to the number of people who use it. Cypherpunks will have to set up a virtual Galt's Gulch, trading only with themselves, and unlike in Rand's fantasy the limitations of such an economy will soon be apparent. Early cypherpunk experiments like "Magic Money" showed how pointless a virtual cypherpunk bank would be. Cypherpunk technologies create a protected boundary within which transactions can be conducted free of third party surveillance and tampering. Only by extending this secure boundary to include the masses will there be enough value generated within the secure region to be worthwhile. Cypherpunks who can only trade and work for each other will not be able to generate sufficient economic growth to survive. In an increasingly interdependent world economy, the only hope for cypherpunk technologies to succeed is to extend them as far as possible throughout society. This includes reaching out to foreigners and minorities, to the dismay of some cypherpunks. We must oppose the elitism and racism which some list members cling to, replacing it with inclusion and openness to members of other cultures. Making fun of foreign accents and calling for the deaths of innocents does not move us toward our goals.

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John Gilmore the fascist cocksucker
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Censorial leftists (Was: Interesting article)
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is nothing new. Honest (self-identified) leftists like my friend Bob Chatelle complain about the censors on the left almost as much as censors on the right. Other fave leftist censorship causes: -- MacKinnonite antiporn laws (she's a self-identified Marxist, I recall) -- "Hate speech" bans -- Sexual harassment "hostile environment" regulations (Give me a break. This is the justification for at least one library censorware installation.) -- Various FCC regulations aside from indecent stuff -- Advertising censorship (check out the Center for Media Education, a leftist group if I ever heard of one. In fact, as I pointed out in my Thanksgiving piece last week, CME's scaremongering Kids and the Net paper was cited by Enough is Enough as justification for the CDA) -- Labeling/compelled speech requirements (Jamie, are you out there?) >bottom line is that most any political orientation is likely to thrash free >speech when it appears to be a threat. Well, at least the libertarians in the audience are consistently opposed to government censorship. -Declan At 06:36 -0500 12/3/97, Jay Holovacs wrote: >Interesting article in Columbia Journalism Review, pointing out that the >political left is becoming more and more a cause censorship. I think the >bottom line is that most any political orientation is likely to thrash free >speech when it appears to be a threat. > >http://www.cjr.org/html/97-11-12-firstamend.html

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Re: Deriving economic profits from writing FREE software?
by Zooko Journeyman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I have an idea for a model for deriving economic profits from writing free software. It requires dcash (specifically, some money that is cheaply and easily transferrable in small amounts). People submit requests for changes to a "wishlist"/"bug report list". Along with these requests they send dcash. Various mechanisms of market and/or trusted intermediary ensure that, on the whole, the hackers who satisfy the most highly valued wishes get the most money. See Grigg 1997 for one good idea of how such a market could operate. We already have extensive networks of wishlists, bug tracking systems, and the rest of an integrated open, distributed software development system (e.g. Linux, Debian, many others). Given the ability to pay (perhaps credit cards could be made to work here? Low cost credit card transactions? Cybercash?), we could start trying to add this kind of flow of cash to some such systems. Unfortunately, i fear that such attempts may fail and disrupt currently working systems... --Zooko P.S. Hi, y'all. I've switched continents, contexts, CPUs, sensitivities and perhaps more, but i'm fine. Thanks for missing me. p.p.s. as per <a href="http://www.slashdot.org/slashdot.cgi?mode=article&artnum=685"> this slashdot.org article</a>, it is called "Open Software" from now on, not "Free Software". Tell the kids.

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Handling spam
by The Sheriff 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For those of you who use mail-reading/downloading softs that let you filter your messages based on header/body content (ie Eudora, ect), I've found a helpfull tool that assists in the filtering out of spam. If the Sender: header is "owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com" and the To: line does not contain the list address, you can easily get a lot of the spam that comes through here. I've resigned myself to creatively filtering out the spam into the trash folder (or your equivilent, like deleting) and leaving it at that, because of time constraints. Best wishes and fresh-roasted peanut taste, The Sheriff. -- ***<REPLY TO: sheriff(a)speakeasy.org>*** --- As kinky as this sounds, finger sheriff(a)speakeasy.org for my RSA PGP public key and my ICQ UIN. If you don't know what a UIN is, head on over to http://www.icq.com :) --- Any and all commercial e-mail will be subject to a $5000 downloading, archival and consulting fee. Cash/MO only. Refusals will result in a default judgement of $10,000 and persuit from my favorite collection agency. NO SPAM! --- --- BEGIN INFLAMATORY BLOCK --- Version: 0 (Survivors) Comments: I was stewing about cliques when the rhyming bug bit. Watch them gather, watch them play. Watch the mailman blow them away. --- END INFLAMATORY BLOCK ---

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(forw) Re: Cypherpunks - Austin: Sat. Feb. 21 6-7pm, physical meet (fwd)
by Troy A. Bollinger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I made the mistake of replying back to austin-cpunks instead of this list. If anyone attending CFP this week in Austin would like to get together let me know. Or just show up on Saturday for the local meet. Thanks, Troy ----- Forwarded message from Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> ----- Message-Id: <199802181631.KAA11452(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: Re: Cypherpunks - Austin: Sat. Feb. 21 6-7pm, physical meet (fwd) To: austin-cpunks(a)ssz.com Date: Wed, 18 Feb 1998 10:31:27 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <19980218101742.09049(a)austin.ibm.com> from "Troy A. Bollinger" at Feb 18, 98 10:17:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-austin-cpunks(a)ssz.com Reply-To: austin-cpunks(a)ssz.com Hi Troy, > Well, I'm free to meet anytime this week. I don't know what the > schedule is for CFP, but if someone sends me a time and place I'll show > up. > > > Lots of us out-of-towners will be in Austin for CFP this week -- but the > > > conference ends on Friday. People start leaving that evening or the next > > > morning. And those of us are staying through Saturday are planning a day > > > trip outside of Austin that won't get us back by 6 pm. > > > > > > Why not have a pre-meet, or the meet itself, during CFP? You should send a notice to 'cypherpunks(a)ssz.com' so that your offer can be propogated to the entire crew quickly. Thanks for the effort. ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Troy Bollinger troy(a)austin.ibm.com AIX Security Development security-alert(a)austin.ibm.com PGP keyid: 1024/0xB7783129 Troy's opinions are not IBM policy

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Moore's Law - What is it?
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Consider this, Moore's Law has for the past few decades successfuly described the increase in computer performance, at least within experimental error. It has proven it's success, at least short term, from the school of hard knocks. But what *is* Moore's Law? It clearly doesn't discuss the fundamental technology of computing and its limitations. Is it in fact the mathematical description of our understanding and ability to apply that comprehension to the real world. Is it in fact a mathematical model of the limits of human reasoning and not computing technology per se. If Moore's Law is fundamentaly valid over the long-term it should be applicable to other forms of human endeavor since the limits of human reasoning and comprehension would seem to be a characteristic of our mind and not a particular area of application. What other forms of human exploration when examined in this light follow the curve? Perhaps Moore's Law is a measure of an ecomomic systems' ability to apply and distribute technology to the society in a non-breakthrough, an ah-hah experience where there is a fundamental shift of paradigm, environment. If so, what other forms of economic expansion follow this curve? However, if Moore's Law is only applicable to computing technology; Why? Why should such a simple curve describe such a complex and inherently non-deterministic area? ____________________________________________________________________ | | | When a man assumes a public trust, he should | | consider himself public property. | | | | Thomas Jefferson | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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