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Electronic Funds Clearing House?
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Take a look at these guys... http://www.efunds.com/welcome2.html Now I know I can't use e-money.com. :-). Anybody here heard of them? Cheers, Bob ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell The NEW(!) e$ Home Page: http://www.tiac.net/users/rah/

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Re: PLO censoring pro-Iraqi sentiments
by Brian B. Riley 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> The next time you "cheer to see the U.S. gets its tail kicked", why >> don't you think about the American troops who lost their lives or were >> maimed, or who were doing something they may have been personally and >> morally against, but they chose to be professional soldiers, and instead >> of displaying cowardice, they tried to do what was asked of them. I prefer to view what Tim said in the context that "Amerika" the ugly got its tail kicked in the broader sense. I don't believe that Tim took any pleasure in seeing American soldiers getting killed. The fact remains that we, Amerika, did get our tail kicked in Somalia; like Viet Nam it was little reflection on the troops but a reflection of the of a command staff being run by Washington DC Apparatchiki all suffering from cranio-rectal inversion. America deserves all the ridicule that has been heaped upon it for those fiascos; only ... some time, maybe we can but hope the we will finally learn at least one lesson and get it right once before I go for the long sleep! -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNOz23D7r4fUXwraZAQFTmAf+NduMJzQp+B4bgILGKcE2n2nMiqqCbV3F gfDqNCANv8I+9VFIZp5yXomg6fmrv/byz/KBAJ0Vb+r8Sgmw/EofflN6s5fInVTq GZlg9aGkdQRHSo8dRuGsxeIkQE0tYqISqFWLNdf5raKEE1UygYoOxQ83snZFvFLU VFOdo37zepo3qlfRNwt2TSW4Wg5D02uQHQIONah64/F9XIENoBAfTLhdeglAN05z L+JGC0hUgyzjv+vmN4qBgtQJIKKOJO1eyQsT1csDXXWPoD/O7I+w6bwS98Yf4UA2 d8T+G8vBdms7rpjQkX7cpa2XASufl1A+3YI8vVDMUREBSjJRTH85nA== =tsyh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Brian B. Riley --> http://members.macconnect.com/~brianbr For PGP Keys <mailto:brianbr@together.net?subject=Get%20PGP%20Key> "Despite the bleating of various socialistically-anointed freakshow groups, the vast majority of us realize that bringing children into the world is not only the most wonderful endeavor with which we can be associated but absolutely essential if we aren't going to put ourselves on the EPA's endangered species list." Winston Borden

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Re: Defeating untrustworthy remailers?
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com" "Deranged Mutant" 7-FEB-1996 00:44:18.29 >Here's another idea (don't laugh): to set up a system where mailing lists and newsgroups have public keys that you can encrypt directly to. Advantage for anonymous mail is that if a remailer is untrustowrthy, there's still some security in the final remailing of the document. ------------------ The newsgroups part of the idea has the problem that you've got to have either a centralized place from which the newsgroup is run that has the private key (a problem for controversial newsgroups, which are precisely the ones to which people will tend to use remailers to post to), or lots of places having the private key (an obvious problem from the cryptographic standpoint). -Allen

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Re: Dealing with Credit Reporting Agencies...
by btmoore＠iquest.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 09:31 AM 2/5/96 -0600, Karl Ike wrote: >Attila: I'm not in the business of running or hiding. I'm just an average, >everyday working guy that doesn't like credit reporting agencies, what they >stand for or what they do for money. I didn't say that I was going to do >this. I just had the idea! I don't have the knowledge or the money to spend. >That doesn't mean that there is someone out there that would jump at the idea. > >I just don't like the idea that these assholes know more about me than my >mother and sell my private and personal information to anyone for big bucks. >My credit is fine, just ask my banker or better yet, my mom. > >I am assumming that you know far more people on the internet since I have >only been on for a month and have done three e-mail. I'm just suggesting to >get the idea out and someone will take the ball and run. Yes, they will be a >hunted man, but not a US citizen. Someone out there with a laptop and a >cellular, living on a cruise ship, just may enjoy the idea. > >Just me, Karl Well Karl, It seems I missed your idea/solution in this post, however, some of us figured this out some years ago... I begin a campaign almost 10 years ago of feeding the computers false information about myself. I never use the Social Insecurity Number assigned to me... I don't even give it to the Bank. This makes for some rather dicey situations. I rarely use my real name or give out my real phone number. At this point in my life... I have *NO* credit history. I currently have *NO* bank account. My goal is to be completely invisible to the system. Yes I have had a few glitches in this plan from time to time... but I continue to work on it. I just have never felt warm and fuzzy knowing that any government agency, business, or whoever can get my personal information off a computer could come knock on my door some dark night. If you're interested in fortifying your privacy, I can give you a few pointers. 1.) Go to your local DMV and inform them you've had a change of address. I selected a high rise apartment building with 15 floors and selected an address on a non-existant 23rd floor. Getting your Driver's License address changed should cost less than $10.00. 2.) Go find a company like "Mail Boxes Etc." and rent a mailbox. The cost is nominal compared to the added privacy and security. The distinction between a mailbox and a Post Office Box is with a mailbox you have an actual street address. You can receive deliveries from UPS and Federal Express at a mailbox. You can't at a P.O. Box. 3.) This part requires some skill... befriending a graphic artist is a good idea for this one. But what you need is a phony work identification. Pick a name! A couple of "Pass Port Photos" and some lamination and you're good to go. 4.) Take your new persona down to your local utility companies and get the serv- ice switched to the name of your new persona. Even get your phone switched and have the number non-published. You'll be pleasantly surprised from now on, everytime your phone rings, it will be someone you really want to talk to. 5.) Go down to your local Post Office and file a change of address form. Use the address of your mailbox. Remember, most companies that provide Mailbox service, will need to see your drivers license... which of course now has a non-existant address on it. You can take this as far as you want... Just doing these 5 things will give you a sense of comfort and security you've probably not had in a long time. How does this fit into cyperpunks and encryption? The philosophy is the same! What good is it encrypting your messages to ensure your privacy when everything else is exposed! It's a lot like an Ostrich burying his head in the sand to hide, but leaving all his good parts exposed! Benjamin T. Moore, Jr. btmoore(a)iquest.net (Jian #AJF IRChat) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMRlexoSAJOVFNaChAQFBCQf8Drm04x2YT5gZb8cklwep1eBVKxOMyVzn /ZN3Tk+lKT05CAT0TCmHm+8oztqxWhgjMklYT228C5u4zvaF8ZrYvLxMp7RQPHvK D2fSKdMGMs+pPvJxPUC5UXssoIsBS0W+i4dO5jDIj/MkXM4JFHsDHvFqr9Q7FqwE Xr75lHjiNP4Gcv06WkVpJewJMaflP5zcrSam577/fbbCkYM6e4nhQPGdqdi83txM hzvCs8cHalPa9UJGuSbIZObe1fAUkQMsVqEomXe5HuBzukJigwdqj4IK9SJixTVx m0Fxf/W74j4lS1TXpqjCQoSD4EPRAleCYR6SFbqV/p0/cMYqv6kErA== =4HYS -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Electronic Grille Cipher?
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:16 PM 2/6/96 EDT, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: > I had a similar idea a bit back, and Lewis/Futplex kindly referred me >to some parts of the Archives discussing it. However, the main objection to >this idea was that the cops would just do a search warrant for the second group >of information. My solution to this is to have quite a few groups of >information, which would admittedly make the spacing problem a bit hard. >The following might be an example for someone of such a scheme: > [comparatively innocent stuff deleted] >G. Your plans to violently overthrow the government (don't give). Hmmmm... That's odd. I spam this stuff on USENET and FIDOnet <GGG>

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[CODE] Signing Web Pages
by Ed Carp, KHIJOL SysAdmin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's a quick script I hacked together in the last few minutes to sign web pages. Very simple-minded, it nonetheless does the job. If you want to see how it looks in action, visit http://dal1820.computek.net #! /bin/sh # # signit - use PGP to sign a web page # Written 02/08/96 by Ed Carp (ecarp(a)netcom.com) # # This could conceptually be used to sign (and optionally verify) # shell scripts, etc. The possibilities are endless... # # # Set up some variables... # # Change this if you're so inclined... PGPHELP="http:\/\/www.yahoo.com\/Computers\/Security_and_Encryption" # Look for a line that starts like this... LOOKFOR="This web page has been signed with" ADDLINE="$LOOKFOR <A HREF=$PGPHELP>PGP<\/A>. To see the digital signature, click <A HREF=$1.asc.html>here<\/A>." # # First, we need to make sure that the page hasn't already been signed... # F=`grep "^$LOOKFOR" $1|wc -l` F="`echo $F`" # If it hasn't already been signed, add signature line if [ "$F" = "0" ]; then echo Adding PGP signature HTML to document echo "s/<\/BODY>/$ADDLINE<\/BODY>/g" > $1.temp.$$ echo "s/<\/body>/$ADDLINE<\/body>/g" >> $1.temp.$$ sed -f $1.temp.$$ < $1 > $1.$$ rm -f $1.temp.$$ mv $1.$$ $1 fi pgp -asb $1 # Add rudimentary HTML echo "<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>PGP Digital Signature of $1</TITLE></HEAD>" > $1.$$ echo "<BODY><I>PGP Digital Signature generated `date`</I><HR><PRE>" >> $1.$$ cat $1.asc >> $1.$$ echo "</PRE></BODY></HTML>" >> $1.$$ mv $1.$$ $1.asc.html rm $1.asc echo Done. -- Ed Carp, N7EKG Ed.Carp(a)linux.org, ecarp(a)netcom.com 214/993-3935 voicemail/digital pager 800/558-3408 SkyPager Finger ecarp(a)netcom.com for PGP 2.5 public key an88744(a)anon.penet.fi "Past the wounds of childhood, past the fallen dreams and the broken families, through the hurt and the loss and the agony only the night ever hears, is a waiting soul. Patient, permanent, abundant, it opens its infinite heart and asks only one thing of you ... 'Remember who it is you really are.'" -- "Losing Your Mind", Karen Alexander and Rick Boyes The mark of a good conspiracy theory is its untestability. -- Andrew Spring ---------------------------------------------------------------------- According to the Communications Decency Act, these are the words you may no longer use in your Internet correspondence: Shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cock-sucker, mother-fucker and tits. The use of shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cock-sucker, mother-fucker and tits, may now earn you a substantial fine as well as possible jail time, should President Clinton sign this Bill into law. Please refrain from using shit, piss, fuck, cunt, cock-sucker, mother-fucker and tits, to protect your children as well as others, from their evil influence, thus keeping America "ideologically pure".

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IFCA
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 1998 21:52:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: online.offshore.com.ai: list set sender to fc98-request(a)offshore.com.ai using -f Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 02:33:04 +0100 (MET) From: Ray Hirschfeld <R.Hirschfeld(a)cwi.nl> To: fc98(a)offshore.com.ai Subject: IFCA Resent-From: fc98(a)offshore.com.ai X-Mailing-List: <fc98(a)offshore.com.ai> archive/latest X-Loop: fc98(a)offshore.com.ai Precedence: list Resent-Sender: fc98-request(a)offshore.com.ai The second year of a new conference is perhaps the most difficult--the novelty has worn off but the conference is not yet firmly established. But all indications for FC98 are promising. Another success next week will be a signal to do it again next year. A new organization, the International Financial Cryptography Association (IFCA) has been formed to support future meetings of the Financial Cryptography conference. IFCA will not only be responsible for organizational aspects of the conference, but will also select the program chair. All paid registrations of FC98 will automatically receive a year's membership in IFCA (unless they indicate that they do not wish to join). Others may join by paying membership dues. A first general meeting of IFCA will be held on the evening of Tuesday February 24, just before the conference rump session, and all members are encouraged to attend. The main purposes of the meeting will be to elect directors and to discuss possible locations for FC99 (and perhaps FC00). If you are interested in hosting an FC conference and can provide some logistic support for it, you are invited to bring a proposal to the meeting. Ideas tossed around so far have mostly focused on other "financial island" locations, e.g., Grand Cayman, Hong Kong, Manhattan, Jersey, etc., but anyplace reasonable will be considered. (There will almost certainly be insufficient information available at the time of the meeting to make a decision, but an indication of the wishes of the membership will be gathered to help guide the directors.) --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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No Subject
by Daniel J. Boone 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Barry Wainwright wrote: > > At 4:51 pm -0500 on 10/2/98, sombody pretending to be Brian B. Riley wrote: > > > Alabama licenses have the holder's SSN on them (because that way > >the state gets more Federal highway $), except his parents had never > >applied to get him one, because of their religion. > > What religion precludes the holding of a SS no.? Here's one: Western Sect Freedonianism. Check out http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/2110/F_Freedonian.html <g> -- J.Q. Lurker

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Re: PLO censoring pro-Iraqi sentiments
by Eric J. Tune 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Eric Tune writes: > >> You know Tim, I respect most of what you write, and I respect you in >> that you have your own free will and opinions and the right to express >> them, but what you have forgotten in your anarchistic ravings is that >> PEOPLE DIED IN SOMALIA, including a personal friend of mine. They were >> all somebody's son, brother, and friend. > >So were the 100,000 Iraqi military killed by Bush, and the 1,000,000 >Iraqis of all ages killed by US sanctions. So were the civilians >bulldozed into mass graves in Panama, so the country would look neat and >tidy for the arrival of the ReportWhores. > >What the world needs now is not another mass killing of Iraqis by the >United States government. What the world really needs now is a fifty >dollar weapon that sinks aircraft carriers. > >> These soldiers went where they were ordered to go, as befits a soldier, >> and tried to do the job they were given and accomplish the mission, and >> for that EVERY ONE OF THEM DESERVES Y O U R RESPECT. I am quite sure >> the vast majority of them thought it was patently stupid to go to >> Somalia in the first place, but a soldier follows orders, legal ones, >> and tries to get the job done regardless of personal feelings. > >Most of them would probably follow "legal orders" to fire upon American >civilians too. You ever served in the military? Unless you've been under fire, you should shut the fuck up about shit you know nothing about nor could comprehend. >> The next time you "cheer to see the U.S. gets its tail kicked", why >> don't you think about the American troops who lost their lives or were >> maimed, or who were doing something they may have been personally and >> morally against, but they chose to be professional soldiers, and instead >> of displaying cowardice, they tried to do what was asked of them. > >The universe does not view the lives of Americans as more valuable than >the lives of people murdered by Americans. Listen up jerk, in case you didn't get any news during 1990, Iraq attacked Kuwait, and murdered thousands of Kuwaitis. "Don't start no shit and there won't be no shit"... ever heard that, asshole? America would have never been involved if Iraq hadn't invaded Kuwait. I was there, in a Bradley, and we could have rolled all over Baghdad, especially after what the Iraqi bastards did to the Kuwaitis, but it wasn't done. Unfortunately Saddam Hussein stayed in power. There will not be a shred of a chance for peace in that region until he is DEAD. I don't think air strikes are the answer to this, and I think Clinton is a moron for his present policy, War is the worst thing that man can do to other men, and there is no such thing as "the good fight"... war is hell. Period. Until you have been in a war, you have no idea of what you are talking about. But if you think that Iraq was "more right" or better yet, "less wrong", you need a radical lobotomy, or perhaps you've already had one. >> Think of the innocent civilians who inevitably die in the conflicts >> started by the megalomaniacs like Saddam Hussein. > >You mean all those melted child car seats and scorched teddy bears on >George Bush's "Highway of Death" leading out of Kuwait? Evidently, you again know nothing of what the Iraqis did to the Kuwaitis on their way in to Kuwait. Get educated, shithead. >Unfortunately, for all the braying Americans do about freedom, Americans >can never be truly happy unless someone is telling them what to do, or >they are telling someone else what to do, or they are bombing someone for >not doing what they have told them to do. > >The only thing Americans understand is dead Americans. The only thing. You sound like nothing more than disillusioned, spoiled, pompous asshole when you presume to know what Americans "understand". Your anarchistic ravings only mark you for the idiot you are. To everyone else besides Cordian who reads this, my apologies, but for all it's failings, I still have pride in America... ...not for all the foreign policy bullshit or the way the government fucks us over, or starts wars, or sticks their collective nose in other countries business...but for the fact that as a whole people, Americans still keep trying, everyday, to be a better people. I'm proud of that. Eric Tune

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CNN on Crypto
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

CNN had a piece on crypto last evening. Jim Bidzos spoke about selling RSA products to China, and lamented export restrictions. PRZ commented on crypto-enabled privacy. A voice-over warned of crypto use by criminals and terrorists and its threat to law enforcement and intelligence. While not there now, presumably the story will be on the CNN Web site later: http://cnn.com

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