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CA DMV Records Confidential? NOT!
by remailer＠merde.dis.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

No matter WHAT California Privacy Law cueently states about the confidentiality of DMV records Home addresses and such... its STILL trivial to get the info from the DMV in a semi-legal way(Social Engineering...) Faked Insurance Investigator Letterhead created on your Laser Printer and an out of State PO Box work wonders... or simply subscribe to NCI, Nighthawk, Superbureau or any number of info brokers... then you can get it ONLINE... Anon

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East Europ{ean view on Clipper
by an65939＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The widespread discussion of the Clipper Chip in both US media and relevant discussion lists is limited mostly to American people. Therefore, I wish to add my small opinion from behind the former Iron Curtain based upon my lifetime experience of living in Poland. The discussion is very interesting for me because in a few years' time when we will be more technologically developed (and have bigger GDP so that secret services may flourish) it may repeat itself in my country. I was inspired by the contribution of prof. D. Denning whom I appreciate for outstanding book about cryptography and data security. For years we lived here with the overwhelming impression of being under constant surveillance by omnipotent secret services maintained by undemocratic regime supported by Moscow. For instance people were afraid not to take part in then sham elections. Those elections were openly unequal - their results were obvious for everyone before the results - but were hyped in the media as an act of support for the government. The widespread belief was that if one did not participate he will be denied some "privilege" for example passport and exit visa to the West on the next request. The same applied to not taking part in 1st May official parades which were said to be voluntary. The regime was also afraid of every way of people's informal associating. Participants in unofficial gatherings were photographed and videotaped with the hope of identifying them. Telephone was always considered insecure and all international calls were "for sure" supposed to be wiretapped. As the published files of East Germany's STASI showed these fears were not groundless. From the four years' distance then polish secret service does not seem to had been so strong but its files WERE NOT revealed and the overall impression remains obscure. For years the society had a highly positive attitude towards West and particularly American people despite officially publicized love for Russian liberators. Unfortunately the knowledge of the West was very, very incomplete. Not surprisingly when the communism collapsed in 1989 the society wanted to integrate quickly with the West hopeful to reach their level of freedom and prosperity soon. And to their surprise the West did not fulfil their expectations either because they were false or because at the same time some of Western ideals had proven unrealistic and were to be abolished. And we learned that the Swedish model of caring state is economically infeasible in the long run, that new gospel should be promulgated to change the fast way of western life, that the World had just entered into global recession so everybody is afraid of newly emerged poor democracies, that our model USA is indeed (as described by former pro Moscow propaganda) a ruthless oppressor for some disobedient nations. At the same time we entered the Cyberspace. It was really a unique experience to have the freedom of sending out (to the West) everything one wishes just after the period of total censorship. Recent developments in cryptography and the work of Cypherpunks have created perhaps for the first time in mankind's history the opportunity to create global communities that evade government's surveillance. It seemed that an omnipotent repressive regimes may one day become hardly possible at all. And now we learn that such a privilege cannot be extended to voice communication. I am afraid that similar regulations will apply to communication over future high throughput electronic highways and that the present loose regulations concerning Internet are the result of first incredible speed of the development of this medium (the democratically elected regimes didn't catch up) and second the smaller (for the time being) popularity of email communication when compared to for instance fax and phone. And now conclusions. Despite the gloomy picture I have just presented I am on the whole an optimist. Properties of mathematics behind cryptography are part of the nature itself and like the software cannot be destroyed by human regulations. The governments may slower the outburst of universal privacy but will not evade it. In the Clipper's case I agree with the conclusion of "Newsweek" from 14 Feb. '94 which suggests that the US users will use foreign made devices and foreigners will be reluctant to use US made ones that can be wiretapped. As the fall of Berlin Wall showed the regulations that do not have popular support will one day collapse. Thank you for taking time to read my private opinions and please excuse me poor language (I am not native) and contents (I am very technical). Doodeck ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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ACLU sues GA over net ban
by camcc＠abraxis.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>X-Sender: ewatkins(a)pop.ipst.edu >Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:01:30 -0500 >Reply-To: Electronic Frontiers Ga Action Mailing List <ACTION(a)efga.org> >Sender: Electronic Frontiers Ga Action Mailing List <ACTION(a)efga.org> >From: Eric James Watkins <eric.watkins(a)IPST.EDU> >Subject: AJC [Atlanta Journal and Constitution] Front page Tuesday final edition >To: ACTION(a)EFGA.ORG > --------------------------------------------------------- >We made the front page!!! I don't have >permission to distribute this. I consider it fair use, and I did suggest >everyone buy a paper earlier. Note: The AJC does not archive these articles. >---------------------------------------- >ACLU sues the state over its ban on some Internet communication > >By Art Kramer >STAFF WRITER > > The ACLU filed suit against the state Tuesday, alleging that a Georgia >law barring the use of pseudonyms and anonymous communication on the >Internet is unconstitutional. > In the first court challenge in an ongoing campaign against >Internet-related laws in 13 states, the American Civil Liberties Union >alleges that when Georgia passed the law affecting the Internet, it >unconstitutionally encroached on the federal power to regulate interstate >commerce. > The suit was filed in U.S. District Court in Atlanta on behalf of >Electronic Frontiers Georgia (EFGA), Rep. Mitchell Kaye (R-Marietta), and 12 >other groups and individuals. > "The right to speak and publish using a virtual 'nom de plume' has its >roots in a long tradition dating back to the very founding of democracy in >this country," said Ann Beeson, staff attorney for the ACLU. > Beeson's use of the Constitution's "commerce clause," the first in an >Internet-related case, could invalidate many state laws affecting the global >computer network, said Trotter Hardy, a professor of law at William and Mary >Law School in Williamsburg, Va. > But Hardy said that approach could backfire by strengthening the case >for federal regulation of the Internet, a result civil libertarians may come >to regret. > State Attorney General Michael Bowers said Tuesday he had not reviewed >the case yet, but that his office typically pursues lawsuits against the >state vigorously. He has 20 days to respond in court. > The ACLU is among a coalition that in February challenged the federal >Communications Decency Act, which bars online content deemed indecent or >"patently offensive." A Philadelphia federal court's decision in June to >block enforcement of the law is on appeal to the Supreme Court. > China, Singapore, Australia, France, Britain and other countries are >debating or enacting curbs on Internet content, and several U.S. states are >considering or already have regulated online material. > The ACLU lawsuit also targets a portion of the Georgia law that the >group contends prohibits online use of trademarked material without >permission. The law went into effect July 1. > That could threaten the use of protected materials such as corporate >logos as links on the World Wide Web, a practice that is now routine, said >EFGA executive director Robert Costner. On EFGA's page, for example, >selecting the BellSouth logo takes the viewer to BellSouth's Web page. > But the law's author, Rep. Don Parsons (R-Marietta), called that >argument preposterous. > "It's just common sense. A link is not an attempt to make a visitor >believe your Web page is someone else's, which is what the law is meant to >prevent," Parsons said. > Kaye, whose use of the Georgia State Seal on his home page angered some >legislators, said he joined the suit to promote open, accessible government. > Kaye said the law has "given Georgia a black eye, sending a message to >the world that we do not understand and are inhospitable to technology." > Parsons said he's been unfairly characterized as an Internet know-nothing. > "I'm an advocate for the Internet's possibilities. To reach its full >potential, users must have real confidence that the sites they visit are >credible, that they are who they say they are. That's all the bill was >supposed to do." > One of the challengers, Avondale Web page designer Bonnie Nadri, said >she already has removed some links from her pages, including the logos of >Coca-Cola, Microsoft and Netscape Communications, because of the law. > The challengers say the wording of the law appears to prohibit >anonymity. Eric Van Pelt, president of the gay support group Atlanta >Veterans Alliance, said his organization joined the suit to shield the >identity of >two gay, active-duty military members of the AVA and to protect their >compliance with the Pentagon's "don't ask, don't tell" policy. > "We made them take an oath of confidentiality to join AVA; we don't want >to expose them to criminal charges just for sending e-mail," said Van Pelt. > RealAudio playback of Tuesday's press conference and the full text of >the lawsuit are available from EFGA.

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testing new Home Web site
by Phiberelic Phreaker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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testing
by Phiberelic Phreaker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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testing
by Phiberelic Phreaker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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testing new Home Web site
by Phiberelic Phreaker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: "S1" encryption system (was: this looked like it might be interesting)
by Alex de Joode 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Futplex sez: : BTW, the code has been posted to Usenet by a Frank Falstaff -- look for : message ID <40b8tk$cj4(a)news.xs4all.nl> in sci.crypt (Wed, Aug. 9, 1995). : His article refers to a message ID (namely <40b50l$oa8(a)utopia.hacktic.nl>) : that differs from the message ID of the copy sent to c'punks. So it looks : like there was at least one additional recipient. That's a minimum of 5 : originals so far.... The remailers at utopia.hacktic.nl use news.xs4all.nl as their newsserver, all messages get an "news.xs4all.nl-ID", all mail ID's will have "utopia.hacktic.nl" in it. -- Alex de Joode Fear Uncertainty and Doubt, Inc.

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Re: crypto anarchy
by an42035＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Count on it. Things are moving much too slowly on "our" side. Entities >like AT&T, Warner, etc. stand a good chance of controlling much of what >becomes "the net" in the future, if much of this technology is not: >1) in place and functional >2) easy to use by the clueless and lazy as well as techies >3) accepted for use within the network, indeed considered *part of* the > network both as "flavour" and technical specifications >4) impossible to remove - no govt/corporate turning back of the tide >VERY soon. In addition the populace has to become aware of: >4) HOW to do all of this - easy "newbie" software is needed - plug-n-play >5) that privacy is possible. Most have forgotten this. If we need this stuff out VERY soon, then there is a serious problem: Time-Warner, AT&T, etc. can afford to spend major $$$ on implementing technology, including having employees work on these projects full time, while the cypherpunks work that goes on is largely on a part time basis by otherwise employed professionals, or students. Not to insult anybody; each contribution in anonymous mail, digital cash, dc-nets, crypto software, etc. is GREATLY appreciated. However, the progress that has been made still has a fun oriented research and development slant. But all the same, if what you are saying is that these volunteer/hacker types have to battle for the future of the net, there's no way. I mean, look at all the stuff Phil Zimmerman went through to put out one crypto program. Can you expect anybody else to do the same? Many volunteers have spent countless man-hours working on PGP, and by no stretch of anybody's imagination is it "plug-n-play" ready. I can't tell you how many announcements of upcoming Windows PGP front-ends I've seen. I'm sure many hobbyists are working on it as much as they can, and I'm glad, but these people can't be expected to compete with real software development efforts. A software company that wants to make "plug-and-play" easy to use crypto software which meets #1 and #2 - including integration into popular mail software - will bury PGP or RIPEM by sheer numbers. Most people fall into the "clueless and/or lazy" category. >There's a lot of work to do. The Wired article may have called cypherpunks "millionaire hackers", but I don't think the majority of this list can afford to work on cypherpunks stuff full time like it probably needs to be worked on. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQBVAgUBLMRcPcOOfkF1iwTdAQE7ygH+OixoYSJBqiH5HbLj4TSjnEaUJINZlndk /zBYfigU0hFYB12rEpI1MBsqep9DNSzR4aOqyQMz4WQ45ayBCp4ekw== =kQBw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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Re: The Crisis with Remailers
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just realized that I haven't been making something clear. The ephemeral endpoints (to use Lance Cottrell's phrase) will be identified when they're used. The purpose of concealing from all but a trusted group (remailer operators) their address (at first) is to slow that identification as much as possible. If it takes someone (NSA or whatever) repeatedly sending messages through to discover each new address, this will take longer (and make it harder for traffic analysis, especially by other parties) than if the output end's address were immediately made public knowledge. This can be helped by the remailer(s) sending to the output address only accepting such mail from another remailer. -Allen

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