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FBI allowed to keep file on New York man's lawful activities
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FBI allowed to keep file on New York man's lawful activities By LAURIE ASSEO Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court today refused to order the FBI to purge its file on lawful activities by the former head of a charitable foundation. The court, without comment, turned away arguments that said the FBI is violating a federal privacy law by keeping a file about the man's years-ago meetings with foreign leaders and political dissidents. Lance E. Lindblom of Larchmont, N.Y., was president of the Chicago-based J. Roderick MacArthur Foundation from 1984 to 1994. The foundation supports civil liberties activities, and Lindblom's duties included meeting with foreign leaders and political dissidents. After filing a request with the FBI, Lindblom learned in 1989 that the bureau kept records that described his meetings with such people. Lindblom and the foundation sued the FBI in federal court in the District of Columbia, saying the 1974 federal Privacy Act required the bureau to purge those files. The law limits federal agencies' authority to keep records describing how people exercise their rights under the Constitution's First Amendment, including rights of free speech and association. Under the Privacy Act, agencies can keep such records only if it is authorized by another law or "within the scope of an authorized law enforcement activity." A federal judge ruled for the FBI, saying the files were compiled for legitimate law enforcement purposes. The investigations were not aimed at Lindblom or the foundation, but were aimed at the people with whom they met, the judge said. A federal appeals court agreed last December. Federal agencies can keep records they lawfully collected, the appeals court said, adding that a requirement to purge old files would be too burdensome. In the appeal acted on today, Lindblom's lawyers said agencies must separately justify the need to keep old records, even if they originally were lawfully collected. Keeping Lindblom's file increases the risk that it will be used illegally, his lawyers said, noting the 1996 controversy after it was found that the FBI files of 700 former White House employees had been sent to the White House. Justice Department lawyers said a requirement to purge old files would cause problems if the information later was needed for a new or reopened investigation. The case is Lindblom vs. FBI, 97-82. APTV-10-14-97 1020EDT

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Freeh letter to NYT
by Roger Schlafly 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[From www.nytimes.com, Oct. 16, 1997] To the Editor: "An Attack on Privacy Rights" (editorial, Oct. 3) argues that the approach to encryption that the law enforcement community is advocating has somehow "put the need to eavesdrop on criminals above the privacy rights of ordinary Americans." Nothing could be further from the truth. You fail to mention that the same court-ordered, judicially approved procedures that now apply to wiretaps and electronic data searches would also apply to our ability to obtain decryption keys or information. In fact, what we proposed requires two orders from a judge before we proceed, not just one as now required. There is another issue that, if unaddressed, will have public safety ramifications. Encryption that cannot be deciphered regardless of the number of court orders or new technologies obtained by the police will devastate our ability to fight crime and prevent terrorism. It will nullify the ability to carry out court-authorized searches and seizures of criminal communication and electronic evidence. Policy decisions about encryption should not be left solely to market forces. Congress, the computer industry and law enforcement can work together to craft legislation that balances the public safety with the commercial and private needs of law-abiding Americans. We are not wedded to any particular solution, but feel that some workable solution can be found to insure that law enforcement can gain immediate access to the plaintext of encrypted criminal communication or electronic data that we have lawfully seized. LOUIS J. FREEH Dir., Federal Bureau of Investigation Washington, Oct. 10, 1997 ---------------------------------------------------------------- How can he say this with a straight face? >In fact, what we proposed requires two orders from a judge >before we proceed, not just one as now required. The DOJ proposal, sect 302, says: (A) A Key Recovery Agent, whether or not registered by the Secretary under this Act, shall disclose recovery information stored by a person: (1) ...; or (2) to a law enforcement or national security government agency upon receipt of written authorization in a form to be specified by the Attorney General. It also contradicts his final sentence: >... some workable solution can be found to insure that law enforcement can >gain immediate access to the plaintext of encrypted criminal communication >or electronic data that we have lawfully seized. The term "immediate access" means without having to goto a judge. Roger

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Re: Liberal lawyer joke from Cdn-Firearms Digest V2 #34
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:26 PM -0700 10/16/97, jf_avon(a)citenet.net wrote: >On 16 Oct 97 at 9:58,somebody wrote: > >> Research labs are increasingly replacing rats with lawyers. >> >> There are three reasons for this: >> >> 1. The lawyers are in abundant supply >> 2. The lab workers do not develop any kind of emotional attachment to >>lawyers >> 3. There are things you just can't get a rat to do. Just a word: the "lawyer jokes" sent out recently are at least 10 years old. Calling them "liberal lawyer" jokes doesn't make them any fresher. I suggest original content, in the form of essays or analyses, is better than stale old lawyer jokes. --Tim May The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: (fwd) Import restrictions for crypto code
by alexlh＠xs4all.nl 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, Alex Le Heux wrote: [snip] > ps. Lucky - what became of the "Brain"? Brian didn't come back to the US with Lucky as he wanted to develop strong crypto applications and did not want to have to contend with export restrictions. He currently has a desk in the offices of a major Dutch ISP, XS4ALL, so he is nice and close to the backbone and thus has great connectivity. Cheerio, Alex --- I dabble in techno-house and sometimes, I do that badass hip-hop thang... But the F U N K gets me every time!

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Re: Anonymity -> Untraceability -> High Latency?
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 9:19 AM 2/2/96, Nelson Minar wrote: >I've been trying out various mechanisms for anonymity: remailer >chains, HTTP proxies. There's one problem that makes them inconvenient >to use regularly: latency. "Latency" is not necessary for mix security. What is important is the number of messages mixed together in the mix. If it is desired that N = 10 and only 10 messages are entering the mix per hour, then, on average, the mix must wait an hour. E.g., "latency = one hour." If however, 100 messages are entering the mix per hour, then "latency = 6 minutes." >A good Type I remailer chain takes at least an hour to deliver email, >instead of the 15 seconds I'm used to. Mixmaster-style takes even >longer; the delay is important to the security of the system. None of these points is necessarily true. --Tim May Boycott espionage-enabled software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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17 Dec '03

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A quote...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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ISDN status - Intermittent (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From ravage(a)ssz.com Sat Oct 18 09:57:09 1997 From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> Message-Id: <199710181457.JAA02252(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: ISDN status - Intermittent To: users(a)ssz.com (SSZ User Mail List) Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 09:57:08 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1548 Hi, Just talked to SWBT and they apparently show the ISDN line as disconnected. Upon further digging at my request they determined that indeed there had been some sort of cable throw yesterday. They issued me a trouble ticket number and will check the line. Considering the intermittent nature of the drop my suspicion is a bad punch-down. If this is so we should see the line stabalize sometime this afternoon. More as I learn it. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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WebX?13@@.ee7b0a7
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[LINK] Navigation [LINK] Community News Chat Message Boards CNN Insider Consumer Food Health Parenting Software News Plus Plus Mail Week In Review Resources Media Search CNN In-Depth Newsmakers Video Almanac Web Kit Transcripts Games! Daily Crossword Head Games Get the Picture? Now Ear This! FEEDBACK HELP! Infoseek BigYellow [INLINE] [LINK] [INLINE] [LINK] Message Boards Home Sci-Tech Message Board Topic: Internet taxation The nation's governors and local officials, already having difficulty collecting taxes on catalog sales, said Friday, October 17, a bill aimed at restricting new taxes on the Internet would worsen their problems. Full Story Should states collect taxes on the net? _______________________________________________________________ Dan Grawe - 10:49am Oct 19, 1997 ET (#1 of 7) Nothing says "GREED" like a politician with too much idle time. When will there be an end to oppressive taxation. I'm not apposed to paying taxes, but good Lord, do they have to tax everything. I think we need to get the air conditioning taken out of the government buildings, so they don't sit around thinking up new and better ways to put the screws to the people who already pay their way. _________________________________________________________________ joseph herr - 01:15pm Oct 19, 1997 ET (#2 of 7) ...the internet is uniting the whole planet together in a smarter, more organic , more honest way, its improving everything and giving all of us easier, more logical alternative solutions in energy , education, food , work and communications ...how can politicians destroy something this good and free ? one way is with taxes....lets stand united against the politicians corrupt tricks to start manipulating this wonderful new tool for growth and democracy...lets leave taxes, obsolete religion manipulators, crime and absurd greedy politics out from this wonderful new peaceful way....global peace.... _________________________________________________________________ Matthew Snyders - 01:28pm Oct 19, 1997 ET (#3 of 7) I am not at all surprised that some brain-dead politicians who would sell their daughters into slavery for a little cold cash would attempt to tax the Internet. Joseph Herr: If we were to stand united against this, how could we? What would we do? _________________________________________________________________ Michael Mendenhall - 01:34pm Oct 19, 1997 ET (#4 of 7) No article I've yet to review has provided a coherent argument for the public-policy which would be satisfied by Internet taxation. Nothing concerns me more than politic automatons who cannot resist the urge of government interference in commerce for the sake of government control. Few realize that the technology industry of the past decade is primarily responsible for our comparative advantage over foreign markets. Taxing Internet activity will be the foothold which turns this tide. _________________________________________________________________ David Lefavour - 01:45pm Oct 19, 1997 ET (#5 of 7) The Internet is already taxed through the existing telephone tax collections. Special taxes for the Internet is simply another example of double taxation. Most of us are fully aware of the objectives behind such efforts and we have had it up to our noses with this nonsense. The time to put a halt to this is already past due. _________________________________________________________________ William V. Beshlian - 02:03pm Oct 19, 1997 ET (#6 of 7) Doesn't local government already collect taxes from our local phone and cable companies that most of us use to get to our Internet Service Providers? That being the case, we are already being taxed once. This appears to be an attempt at taxing us twice for the same service. Think about it...... _________________________________________________________________ Michael Benezra - 02:37pm Oct 19, 1997 ET (#7 of 7) Any government that would dare tax the Internet will find Internet businesses fleeing that country and operating from a different local. After all, on the Internet it does not matter where you are, but what you provide to your customers. 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Re: Voice On the Net Digest V2 #44
by tedwards＠access.digex.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From: "Shane D. Mattaway" <shane(a)netspeak.com> > Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 07:12:32 -0500 > Subject: [VON]: WebPhone Beta 6 Release > AUDIO ENCRYPTION > All audio transmissions are encrypted to provide secure conversations > without any performance overhead. Encryption is accomplished using a > proprietary algorithm. If the encryption is secure, there is no need to have "security through obscurity." I rather doubt that the makers of WebPhone have invented a proprietary encryption method that actually provides a high level of security. Most truly secure encryption methods (DES, RSA, IDEA) are presented for peer review for years before the academic and cryptographic communities deem them to be reasonably secure. It is easy to claim you have a secure encryption algorithm - but most such algorithms turn out later to have serious security holes. Only some manage to hold up to their security claims under close academic analysis. PGPfone's encryption methods are available for public inspection, and are generally accepted by the cryptographic community to be secure. -Thomas Edwards

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