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by nobody＠soda.berkeley.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am remailing this using a fake address, by telnetting to port 25 of a remailer from Netcom. Here is how I did it and how anyone else could do it, including Larry Detweiler, who knew how to do this when I was still in my internet diapers: >qwerty: telnet soda.berkeley.edu 25 >Trying... >Connected to soda.berkeley.edu. >Escape character is '^]'. >220-soda.berkeley.edu Sendmail 8.6.5/PHILMAIL-1.10 ready at Wed, 16 Feb 1994 15:05:31 -0800 >220 ESMTP spoken here >EHLO mail.netcom.com >250-soda.berkeley.edu Hello mail.netcom.com, pleased to meet you >250-EXPN >250-SIZE >250 HELP >MAIL From:<L.D.e.t.w.e.i.l.e.r(a)netcom.com> >250 <L.D.e.t.w.e.i.l.e.r(a)netcom.com>... Sender ok >RCPT To:<hh(a)soda.berkeley.edu> >250 <hh(a)soda.berkeley.edu>... Recipient ok >DATA >354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself >Request-Remailing-To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Here is an example of a damaging post, which is damaging in whatever volume it is sent out. For those of you who don't have a sense of humor: THIS IS A JOKE! This isn't real. There IS NOT an offer from Blacknet for such things (at least I don't THINK so)!! -----BEGIN FICTITIOUS DAMAGING POST EXAMPLE----- "Hello, Blacknet Enterprises here. We are looking for kiddie porn. Please use our encrypted remailer block to send us some and we will send you e-money, or make an anonymous deposit in your back account. Thank-you. Remember when you were 12 years old? That Suzy sure was cute! You wanted her then, and you want her now ;-) ! Don't lie; we're all kids at heart. Because at Blacknet: we love EVERYONE." -----END FICTITIOUS DAMAGING POST EXAMPLE----- Since Usenet will not be fully moderated in the next year or two, the only solution which will not backfire and make things worse, is moderated remailing. If someone can send me an AI program that would be able to block the above post, and further block efforts by the same abuser to alter said post to avoid your keyword search, such as changing "Blacknet" to "Black.Net" and "porn" to "pictures", then I will be very amazed. As I've already tried to point out, security starts with people, not technology. If I haven't made my point by now then I guess it's time to unsubscribe, shut down qwerty, and get on with what matters, which is getting PGP, Stealth-PGP, and a few sophisticated steganographs into people's hands. -=Xenon=-

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Security through obscurity?
by rishab＠dxm.ernet.in 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- qwerty(a)netcom.com (Xenon) writes: > > There's a paradigm-shift needed here. When it clicks into place in one's > mind, you will see why I am so adamant about Stealth-PGP, for rather than > being a back-burner project, it is THE very thing that is most important > for the defeat of Big Brother's Clipper chip and his wiretap proposals. It > REALLY IS a "Stealth" technology. I'm sure there are already thousands in > repressive countries who need it NOW, and if you don't call the USA a > repressive country as well, I've got a burning Constitution and Bill of > Rights for you burn your hands on. > Not everybody thinks India is a free country, but it is, more or less. The interesting thing about "needing Stealth PGP" is that you need it more in "free" USA, where Big Brother has the technology and political will to watch and blacklist you, as well as the political will of Bobby Ray's ilk. Most repressive countries are, on the other hand, not well equipped with hi-tech surveillance. In India, where I can telnet from at practically no cost due to a fairly up to date net, official policy for this "Educational" net states that mail, not supposed to be private, may be randomly inspected. However, I can send just about anything I want to and from anywhere (such as PGP, Phrack, and any sedition I might want to export), because *NOBODY WILL BOTHER* to inspect anything. And government security agencies who may have the technology to snoop couldn't be bothered with electronic traffic. In any case, if I was to hack for state secrets, presumably I'd find NSA archives more interesting than their local equivalant. The point is that nobody here will notice what encryption I use, and far from outlawing it, hardly anyone is aware of it. (I'm one the only person from India, and one of four from all Asia, to subscribe to this list. Pretty well hidden in the noise ;-) Just as in India, I'm not suspect if I encrypt a message, Xenon hopes that the NSA won't mind if *IT DOESN'T KNOW* that you've encrypted something. But the threshold of suspicion will change: with increasing use of Stealth-PGP, *ANY TRANSMISSION* of noise will be cause for honorary membership to the NSA watchlist. Of course, they may find it harder to prove that you did encrypt anything; but now they can't prove that you encrypted something criminal, as decryption is pretty hard. But they don't believe much in proof, do they? Rishab - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rishab Aiyer Ghosh "What is civilisation rishab(a)doe.ernet.in, rishab(a)dxm.ernet.in but a ribonucleic Voicemail +91 11 3760335; Vox/Fax/Data 6853410 hangover?" H-34C Saket New Delhi 110017 INDIA - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLWJ5Lvw/vM8w8hLZAQESnwP+L9nuYtkRXQap5Ucr9dUWOfAFhQQeJO2S d5tHWkRbBEf8panzPO/W/5X/2BBPCoaoNEkqLpX11RHCVKBd8rrx4xaX5UJL9iTk 49s8c2jLEC2ZqJLneJd6DchZaNRwV9u4ns3M+55m7o3sYYZ0wdE9AgfpID9BGpfn r5cA7N+RXNg= =950h -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Article from March Scientific American
by nates＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From Scientific American, March 1994, pages 90 - 101. This is not the whole article, just the part pertaining to up (reprinted withut permission) please excuse any spelling errors! -------- cut here -------- Parker = Donn B. Parker, SRI International Denning = Dorothy E. Denning, Georgetown University Ware = Willis Ware, Rand Ranum = ?? Farber = David J. Farber, University of Pennsylvania Spafford = Eugene H. Spafford, Purdue University If passwords should traverse the Internet only in encrypted form, what about other sensitive information? Standardization efforts for "privacy-enhanced" e-mail have been under way for more than five years, but widespread adoption lies well in the future. "The interoperability problem is nasty," Ware says, unless everyone has software that can handle encrypted messages, it is of little use to anyone. Encryption could provide not only privacy but authentication as well: messages encoded using so-called public-key ciphers can uniquely identify both recipient and sender. But encryption software in general remains at the center of a storm of political and legal controversy. THe U.S. government bars easy export of powerful encoding software even though the same codes are freely available overseas. Within the U.S., patent rights to public-key encryption are jealously guarded by RSA Data Security, a private firm that licensed the patents from their inventors. Although software enploying public-key algorithms has been widely published, most people outside the U.S. government cannot osse it without risking an infringement suit. To complicate matters even further, the government has proposed a different encryption standard, one whose algorithm is secret and whose keys would be held in encrow by law-enforcement agencies. Although many civil libertarians and computer scientists oppose the measure, some industry figures have come out in favor of it. "You can't have absolute privacy," Parker says. "A democracy just can't operate that way." The question is not whether cyberspace will be subjected to legislation but rather "how and when law and order will be imposed," Parker says. He predicts that the current state of affairs will get much worse before the government steps in "to assure privacy and to protect the rights people do have." Others do not have Parker's confidence in government intervention. Ranum forsees an internet made up mostly of private enclaves behind firewalls that he and his colleagues have built. "There are those who say that fire walls are evil, that they're balkanizing the Internet," he notes, "but brotherly love fall on it's face when millions of dollars are involved." Denning counts herself among the optimists. She lends her support to local security measures, but "I don't lose any sleep over security," she says. Farber, also cautiously optimistic, sees two possible directions for the Internet in the next few years: rapid expansion of existing services, or fundamental reengineering to provide a secure base for the future. He leaves no doubt as to which course he favors. Spafford is likeminded but gloomier. "It's a catch 22," he remarks. "Everyone wants to operate with what exists, but the existing standards are rotten. They're not what want to build on." Even if computer scientists do redesign the Internet, he points out, putting new standards in place may be impossible because of the enormous investment in old hardware and software. So much of the Internet rests on voluntary cooperation, he observes, that making sweeping changes is almost impossible. Then again, Ware counters, perhaps piecemeal evolution may be the only possibility. No single organization understands the idea of a national information infrastructure well enough to be put in charge, he contends: "There's no place to go and say `Here's the money, work out all the problems.' There aren't even three places, and I'm not sure there should be." In the meantime, the network grows, and people and businesses entrust to -------- cut here -------- -nate -- +--------- | Nate Sammons <nates(a)netcom.com> PGP Key and fingerprint via finger. | Kill The Clipper. Question Authority. Encrypt everything in sight. +---------

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by qwerty-remailer＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Perry, you should start signing your messages 'cause someone's been forging posts from you, trying to make you look stupid. -=Xenon=- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3 iQCVAgUBLWKDLASzG6zrQn1RAQHkTgP/eBL9o5g8WraOs+CPzQ75xX3xKCnDbUzP CbtaGswTLbhANe+JUZx4jONYKv94H+y6GhBc0B//g4+Howo32bmmrhNPGTjWLxH/ mcDmqacoGEtiT1V9J4BNUsA3bP8HyYWpijZA6IAzftXniZjvEErOltKksz0o1qwV Qxd64/2lVz4= =BIaa -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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The L.D. persona...
by qwerty-remailer＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Dave Womack asked, >The other day, I noticed that MacPGP seemed >to give credit to a person with the initials L. D. In the MacPGP2.3 startup screen there appears "... L. Detweiler....". He adapted John Norstad's help routine for use in MacPGP. This was a vast improvement over the documentation that came with MacPGP2.2. You still need my "Here's How to MacPGP!" guide though ;-). He also wrote the "Privacy and Anonymity on the Internet" FAQ, which is still regularly posted to Usenet, and mentioned at the end of my Guide, and is highly recommended reading. Then he went koo-koo. Oh well. I'm sure the old timers here know more about that than I do. -=Xenon=- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3 iQCVAgUBLWLBCQSzG6zrQn1RAQE+iwP+NjFViFSGS2LppEVeUjDnQE1/0G/NWwxw wFeLj0gYidkFtrUd37VUD0Xpvu4uWnzSEjr28QH7ycF5Zhw2rtirVb7tNaM2NeX7 vX0i8Eg3VsN3zoApm0Zdgo2dGZmxO4PES5OW4Kc33+CSjMf78L4n6D9wQX7SPc/M znS73lmdKxk= =QQrZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Blacknet worries
by hal＠alumni.cco.caltech.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim's Blacknet story has gotten a lot of reaction after Detweiler's random posting escapade last week. I think it is a good essay, but there is one point I don't think was stressed enough. > BlackNet is currently building its information inventory. We are interested > in information in the following areas, though any other juicy stuff is > always welcome. "If you think it's valuable, offer it to us first." > > - trade secrets, processes, production methods (esp. in semiconductors) > - nanotechnology and related techniques (esp. the Merkle sleeve bearing) > - chemical manufacturing and rational drug design (esp. fullerines and > protein folding) > - new product plans, from children's toys to cruise missiles (anything on > "3DO"?) > - business intelligence, mergers, buyouts, rumors The glaring omision, mentioned only in passing, is military intelligence. A friend at work tells me that in the Manhattan project, presumably one of the most secret projects ever attempted, the Soviet Union had no fewer than six agents passing on information. Since then, three have been identified. The KGB says there are three more who have never been discovered, and they won't say who they are. (Of course, this could be in part KGB boasting/disinformation, but apparently the three who were discovered are confirmed.) Keeping business secrets and manufacturing techniques secret is one thing. But, from the point of view of the government, the world of Blacknet could be an utter disaster for the protection of military secrets. Despite its consumption of a large fraction of our society's resources, government jobs tend not to be high paying, especially compared to jobs with comparable degrees of responsibility in civilian life. The temptation to sell secrets for cash has got to be present for almost everyone. But it is balanced against the immense practical problems involved: making contacts, arranging deliveries, being caught in a "sting" operation. Blacknet could remove most of this risk. With near-perfect anonymity and digital cash, a tidy side income could be created for anyone with access to classified information. There would be no need for risky physical meetings. The money could be spent on a few nice extras to make life more comfortable, without fear of it being traced. How many people would succumb to such temptation? People do undergo security checks, and presumably those who pass are mostly honest. But they are human, and money is a powerful motivator. Especially if the person figures that if he doesn't sell the info someone else will, the temptation will be all the stronger. There are possible countermeasures: frequent lie-detector tests (as in Snow Crash); "fingerprinting" documents so everybody has a slightly different copy, allowing sting operations to identify the culprits; perhaps even swamping the legitimate offers of cash with bogus ones (a denial-of-service attack, in effect). But none of these are really likely to solve the problem. This is probably the issue which has the government really scared, the issue which turned Barlow's government friends against free encryption, as he describes in his Wired article ("if you knew what I know, you'd oppose it too"). The NSA in particular has for a long time been wildly paranoid about this issue, as detailed in The Puzzle Palace; sometimes it seems that despite its ostensible mission, the NSA is more concerned about protecting its own secrets than discovering others'. I could see any technology which would facilitate sellouts by their people to be considered a mortal threat, something to be fought by any means. And I imagine that the rest of the military intelligence community would feel the same way. Imagine if Blacknet had existed during the Manhattan Project, how much easier it would have been to corrupt those involved. This must be a nightmare for the government, and they appear determind in their fight against it to create a nightmare in turn for proponents of privacy. Hal Finney hfinney(a)shell.portal.com

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TELECOM Digest V14 #85 (fwd)
by Colin Orion Chandler 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I hope this is legal... check out the section on Clipper! Not new news, but at least all the telco honchos are receiving this info... :) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:33:36 CST From: TELECOM Moderator <telecom(a)delta.eecs.nwu.edu> To: telecom(a)eecs.nwu.edu Subject: TELECOM Digest V14 #85 TELECOM Digest Wed, 16 Feb 94 09:33:00 CST Volume 14 : Issue 85 Inside This Issue: Editor: Patrick A. Townson GTE High Technology in California (TELECOM Digest Editor) Over 10,000 Sign Petition to Oppose Clipper (Dave Banisar) More FTP NISDN Information Available (William H. Sohl) Caller ID in Russia (For Curious) (Michael De Lyon) Faculty Position Available (Jane Fraser) Cell Phone Welcome Message (Gary Huntress) "America's Network is New Name For TE&M Magazine (Nigel D. Allen) Network Efficiency (Dave Linthicum) Request For Map Drawing Software (Donald E. Kimberlin) AT&T Directory Assistance Now Includes Addresses (Monty Solomon) Privacy on 900 Mhz Cordless Phones? (John Galloway) Smart Trunks (Mark Henry) Help Needed With Phone Connections (Robert Varcoe) Priorities (John Shaver Modernization Office) TELECOM Digest is an electronic journal devoted mostly but not exclusively to telecommunications topics. It is circulated anywhere there is email, in addition to various telecom forums on a variety of public service systems and networks including Compuserve and GEnie. Subscriptions are available at no charge to qualified organizations and individual readers. Write and tell us how you qualify: * telecom-request(a)eecs.nwu.edu * The Digest is compilation-copyrighted by Patrick Townson Associates of Skokie, Illinois USA. We provide telecom consultation services and long distance resale services including calling cards and 800 numbers. To reach us: Post Office Box 1570, Chicago, IL 60690 or by phone at 708-329-0571 and fax at 708-329-0572. Email: ptownson(a)townson.com. ** Article submission address only: telecom(a)eecs.nwu.edu ** Our archives are located at lcs.mit.edu and are available by using anonymous ftp. The archives can also be accessed using our email information service. For a copy of a helpful file explaining how to use the information service, just ask. TELECOM Digest is gatewayed to Usenet where it appears as the moderated newsgroup comp.dcom.telecom. It has no connection with the unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.dcom.telecom.tech whose mailing list "Telecom-Tech Digest" shares archives resources at lcs.mit.edu for the convenience of users. Please *DO NOT* cross post articles between the groups. All opinions expressed herein are deemed to be those of the author. Any organizations listed are for identification purposes only and messages should not be considered any official expression by the organization. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 10:08:01 -0500 From: TELECOM Digest Editor <telecom(a)eecs.nwu.edu> Subject: GTE High Technology in California The following bulletin was released by GTE on Monday. Feb. 14, 1994 GTE BRINGS HIGHLY ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY TO CALIFORNIA THIS WEEK; "WORLD CLASS NETWORK" A REALITY GTE California today announced that it will install highly advanced switching technology this week in the Los Angeles area as part of the company's continuing effort to build a "World Class Network" for customers. The company said ATM switches -- some of the final components that permit access to the information superhighway -- will be installed Tuesday (Feb. 15) at company facilities in Santa Monica, Ontario and Thousand Oaks. Additional ATM switches are scheduled to be installed at other California sites before the end of the year. ATM (Asynchronous Transfer Mode) switches handle simultaneous video, data, image and voice traffic. A few of the customer service capabilities include: interactive distance learning among classrooms in different parts of a city or state; geographically distant employees sharing documents and images during video conference calls; medical experts in separate hospitals concurrently reviewing and diagnosing X-rays; and residential customers picking movies from video-on-demand libraries. GTE's ATM network initially will support educational institutions, businesses and government agencies. "The 1990s have been a challenging time for California, but also an exciting time as we work to build a future that's better than our past," said West Area President Larry Sparrow. "We've been aggressively installing advanced network systems here for several years. The addition of ATM switching makes our long-standing vision of a World Class Network a reality." ATM SWITCHES PART OF GTE PLAN TO SUPPORT EDUCATION Educational institutions are a critical component of GTE's World Class Network in California. More details of the World Class Network's educational aspects, as well as business and government applications, will be announced at a later date. "We've proven the value of telecommunications in the classroom, and we've learned that no single product can meet the diversity of needs present in our schools today. Another difficulty educators face is technological obsolescence," Sparrow said. "GTE will ensure that educators have access to technology that meets their individual needs. ATM's flexibility will help schools avoid dependency on technology that will become outdated." Using telecommunications, schools can improve the quality of education by pooling resources and accessing a tremendous variety of information and learning materials. The company has conducted several educational pilot projects, including programs in the Hacienda-La Puente and Norwalk-La Mirada school districts, and a distance learning program with California State University, Dominguez Hills and Coastline Community College. GTE also has conducted the world's most comprehensive technology test of educational applications as part of the company's Cerritos Project. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 13:42:29 -0500 From: Dave Banisar <cpsr(a)access.digex.net> Subject: Over 10,000 Sign Petition to Oppose Clipper Washington, DC February 15, 1994 Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility (CPSR) OVER 10,000 SIGN PETITION TO OPPOSE CLIPPER In only two weeks, over 10,000 users of the nation's computer networks have signed the CPSR petition calling for President Clinton to withdraw the Clipper proposal. Opposition has been widespread, from CEOs of large firms to college students in small towns, from librarians and civil libertarians to computer programmers and product marketers. To sign the petition, email <clipper.petition(a)cpsr.org> with the message "I Oppose Clipper" Encourage friends to sign. In 1990, over 30,000 people sent email message to Lotus asking that a product containing detailed personal information called "Marketplace" be withdrawn. Eventually Lotus withdrew the product. CPSR is a non-profit, membership organization based in Palo Alto, CA. CPSR's mission is to provide analysis of the effects of new technological developments on society. For more information, please email cpsr(a)cpsr.org or call 415-322-3778. ------------------------------ From: whs70(a)cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h) Subject: More FTP NISDN Information Available Date: 15 Feb 1994 13:55:41 -0500 Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore) Information about National ISDN is now available by anonymous FTP (File Transfer Protocol) over the Internet at host: info.bellcore.com FTP allows the retrieval of formatted documents and software. The documentation now available (2/17/94) includes: 1. A Catalog of National ISDN Solutions for Selected NIUF Applications 2. Bellcore document, SR-2006, "National ISDN" 3. A list of Bellcore TEC training for National ISDN Additional documentation will be added over time and this announcement will be periodically updated and posted to the appropriate newsgroups. The files are available in PostScript through anonymous FTP from "info.bellcore.com" in the /pub/ISDN sub directory. I M P O R T A N T: Many of the files are large, it is essential that you first get the README (the upper case is important) file for detailed information on retrieving various files associated with documents. The following text describes a typical anonymous FTP session: system: ftp info.bellcore.com <enter> Connected to info. 220 info FTP server (SunOS 4.1) ready. Name: anonymous <enter> 331 Guest login ok, send ident as password. Password: <enter your internet login -- example: student(a)university.edu> 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. ftp> cd /pub/ISDN <enter> 250 CWD command successful. ftp> mget README <enter> mget README? yes <enter> 200 PORT command successful. 150 ASCII data connection for README (8758 bytes). 226 ASCII Transfer complete. local: README remote: README 8943 bytes received in 0.19 seconds (46 Kbytes/s) ftp> quit <enter> 221 Goodbye. <enter> represents pressing the "enter" or "return" key on your computer keyboard. The README file is in ASCII format and may be read on any word processor. The other files in the directory are in PostScript format and may be downloaded as needed by using the "mget" command while in the FTP. The PostScript files may be printed on a PostScript printer by using the "lprr" command. A typical Post Script print command may look like: lpr -P<printer> -h -v <filename.ps> where: <printer> represents printer name on your network, and <filename.ps> represents a PostScript file. '-h' corresponds to the option of suppressing the printing of burst page while '-v' corresponds to the option of printing raster image, i.e., PostScript. Please note that the printer must support PostScript imaging model in order to print these files. If you have problems or you'd like to comment on the information stored at this site or wish to make recommendations for future enhancements, you can email us at: isdn(a)cc.bellcore.com OR call us at Bellcore's National ISDN Hotline: 1-800-992-ISDN If you'd like to be added to our NISDN information mailing list, please call the Hotline or email us and provide your name, your full mailing address (regular mail), and telephone number. ------------------------------ From: ics(a)netcom.com (Michael De Lyon) Subject: Caller ID in Russia (For Curious) Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest) Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 03:52:45 GMT After some reading of 'Caller ID' thread, I decided that some curious people might be interested how is it done in Russia. Russia is beginning to offer tone-dialing (very limited number of exchanges even in Moscow), but as long-distance direct dialing is very common, standard (?) caller ID request/responce are used. It is worth to mention that in Russia all seven-digit calls are local (flat rate), so the problems with billing only begin when you call 8 (wait for dialtone) (area code) number. Your caller ID is requested after you dialed 8. If it failed after several trials or callback probe realized that the number is not busy (i.e. it is forged or incorrectly recognized), you get engaged tone and need to hang up. (International calling is 8 W 10 + ....; this 10 looks more familiar, eh?). Of course, there is nothing like custom calling services. (You cannot _dial_ * or #, can you?) That's why hardware-knowledgeable people began to create their own devices (mostly Z80-based, with 4K of ROM) to perform basic caller ID functions. Algorithms were getting better and better, and now such a device does caller ID (buffer for about 10, time and date), white (distinctive ringing), grey (regular) and black (rejected) lists of caller IDs, repetitive dialing, "answering machine" (outgoing message from RAM, incoming to an attached tape recorder), etc., etc. Very impressive, especially for those who understand that there is 1-bit FFT inside. What happened next -- it became almost impossible to call long distance, because the number of caller-ID generators was limited and if all of them on your local exchange are busy when you call long distance, it doesn't get your ID and rejects you. That's why the Ministry of Communications decided to introduce the fee for caller ID boxes. But it is not the end of the story. As those boxes are cheaper than answering machines, people used them in AM mode when leaving home, that is when you call a number equipped with caller-ID box, it picks up after the first ring, sends the request, decides what to do with you, and either simulates busy tone or hangs up (you're rejected) or simulates ringing and really rings the phone, but nobody answers. It is very annoying if you call from a payphone, that's why it is considered very impolite to set the device in AM mode. (regular mode is to detect ID after the receiver went off hook). Of course, anti-caller-ID were developed, but they work quite unreliably -- just trying to send pulses after remote picked up. Sometimes it helps, sometimes not. Last note: as the system was designed for billing, the ID only contains seven digits, so it is impossible to derive area code from ID, the best is to recognize "alien" phone number. I hope it was of interest, Leo [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: Yes Leo, it was of interest. Thanks very much for passing it along, and please tell us more about telecom in Russia from time to time. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 08:59:12 EST From: fraser(a)ccl2.eng.ohio-state.edu Subject: Faculty Position Available Rochester Institute of Technology Telecommunications Engineering Technology RIT's School of Engineering Technology invites applicants for a tenure-track position in the bachelor of science program in telecommunications engineering technology. Women and minority candidates are encouraged to apply Candidates should have a background in electronic systems engineering with experience in voice, data and multimedia telecommunications that includes network management, network planning and design. Duties include teaching electrical and telecommunications engineering technology courses and laboratories in the EET Department. Knowledge and understanding of engineering technology principles and experience in computer applications relative to the electrical and telecommunications field is desirable. A masters degree in engineering and three years relevant industrial experience in the specialties above are required. Professional registration and teaching experience desirable. Submit resume with names & phone numbers of three references by 5/1/94 to: W. David Baker, Director, School of Engineering Technology, Rochester Institute of Technology, 78 Lomb Memorial Drive, Rochester, NY 14623 - 5604 . ------------------------------ From: ghuntres(a)nyx10.cs.du.edu (Gary huntress) Subject: Cell Phone Welcome Message Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept. Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 14:02:47 GMT My in-laws have a new Motorola flip phone that they love very much. They recently took a trip to Florida and while driving on Rt. 95 the phone rang and they got some sort of a "welcome" message from one of the local service providers. My FIL is constantly amazed by all the technology at work here and he would like to know basically how this works. I assumed that the phone, while in standby, can detect when it enters and leaves each cell. And when it sees that it enters the cell of a new carrier it (the phone) transmits some sort of a "here I am" message obviously this includes his phone number or some sort of serial number so that the cell can call back with the "welcome" msg. Is this about right? Thanks, Gary Huntress ghuntres(a)nox.cs.du.edu ------------------------------ From: ndallen(a)io.org Subject: "America's Network" is New Name for TE&M Magazine Date: Mon, 14 Feb 1994 13:22:26 EST Organization: Internex Online Public Access, Toronto, Ontario, Canada One of the leading magazines for telephone company managers is changing its name. {TE&M, Telephone Engineer & Management} is becoming {America's Network}, effective with the February 15 issue. Here is the magazine's address, in case you ever want to send it a press release or letter to the editor: America's Network (formerly TE&M) Attn: Mr. Robert E. Stoffels, Editor 233 N. Michigan Ave., Suite 2423 Chicago, IL 60601 U.S.A. Telephone (312) 938-4856 Fax (312) 938-4854 I have no affiliation with the magazine. Nigel Allen, Toronto, Ontario, Canada ndallen(a)io.org ------------------------------ From: davel(a)to.mobil.com (Dave Linthicum) Subject: Network Efficiency Date: 14 Feb 1994 18:35:56 GMT Organization: Mobil Oil, Fairfax VA Reply-To: davel(a)to.mobil.com (Dave Linthicum) A question: If network efficiency can be roughly estimated using the following formula: E = M/(M+O) where: M = Message size O = Overhead needed to send one message = (Px delay x speed) + ACK size + H P = NUMBER OF PACKETS SENT H = HEADER SIZE ACK = Acknowlegment message of meassage received For example, IEEE 802.3 uses this formula such as: E = 100/(100 + 30 + 64 + 2(64) = 31% I know 100 is Message size. What is 30, 64, and 2(64)? This is in a network modeling book. Please respond via e-mail. Thanks! Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 13:10 EST From: Donald E. Kimberlin <0004133373(a)mcimail.com> Subject: Request For Map Drawing Software I'm getting into software that draws network maps on the fly as people use it, with need to zoom in and out and place variable labels, like node names, on the maps, and have them ultimately printable on an attached printer or fileable in disk files. Can anyone suggest sources for some nice geographic outline map drawing code for PCs? The U.S., Canada, and world political outline maps are all ultimately needed. Windows/DOS preferred, but UNIX is acceptable, at least to try with. Ultimately, I will need to get the source to make modifications as to labeling and such. Commercial products are acceptable, but public domain is preferred. The choice depends on cost. All replies appreciated. Send me any private replies to 0004133373(a)mcimail.com, please. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 01:54:06 -0500 From: Monty Solomon <monty(a)roscom.COM> Subject: AT&T Directory Assistance Now Includes Addresses In all states except New Jersey and Connecticut you can now request phone number and/or address information from AT&T Directory Assistance. They can't currently provide addresses in New Jersey and Connecticut. ------------------------------ From: jrg(a)rahul.net (John Galloway) Subject: Privacy on 900 Mhz Cordless Phones? Organization: Galloway Research Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 20:01:11 GMT Given the extended range folks are reporting for these new phones, it seems like privacy is an even bigger issue. Do the units provide any sort of build in key to distinguish your phone from your neighboors? (not that such would prevent determined eavsdropping, but it would keep the other guys phone and likely the scanner-heads out). jrg internet jrg(a)galloway.sj.ca.us John R. Galloway, Jr 795 Beaver Creek Way applelink D3413 CEO...receptionist San Jose, CA 95133 Galloway Research (408) 259-2490 [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: One tradeoff where the increased range of cordless phones is concerned is that increased range causes a greater risk that the call will be overheard by others. I guess you have to balance convenience and security; a trade-off which occurs so often where modern computer and phone networks is concerned. PAT] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 09:26:29 CST From: o_henryma(a)ccsvax.sfasu.edu (Mark Henry) Subject: Smart Trunks TELECOM Digest Readers, Has anyone had any experience with a trunking application based on ISDN called Smart trunks by Southwestern Bell? If so, can you send me pros and cons of such and post to the net if appropriate. In addition, could you tell what percentage reduction in actual trunks can be expected when converting to the Smart Trunk application from analog facilities. Thanks in advance, Mark Henry, Director of Telecommunications and Networking Stephen F. Austin State University P.O. Box 6095, Nacogdoches, Texas 75962 Phone (409) 568-2200 E-Mail @ o_henryma(a)ccsvax.sfasu.edu ------------------------------ From: aj645(a)FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Robert Varcoe) Subject: Help Needed With Phone Connections Reply-To: aj645(a)FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Robert Varcoe) Organization: The National Capital FreeNet Date: Tue, 15 Feb 1994 13:54:29 -0500 Hi, I hope someone out there can help ... I've acquired a touchtone phone but the wires leading from the headset to the phone AND the wires leading from the phone to the jack are not connected. Here is all the numbers I could find on the phone: on the cover at back it is placo telecom inc. On the inside on the touch pad is says NE-35Q3A2X 1-79 on the bottom of the phone there is a number: 79 QSQM 2500AX on the inside of the phone on the right is a block where the wires should be connected (I think) the block is labled: L1 L2 G X Y. The wires that come from the hand set (four) are black, red and two whites, from the phone jack (four) are black, green, red and yellow. I would like to get this phone working, any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 15 Feb 94 10:55:24 GMT From: John Shaver Modernization Office <shaverj(a)huachuca-emh16.army.mil> Subject: Priorities A British humourist noted that if God had wanted us to have aeroplanes he would not have given us the railroads. Cannot the same be said for Telephone and Telegraph? [TELECOM Digest Editor's Note: And ditto for computers versus the old mechanical 'adding machines' of the 1940-50 era! <smile> PAT] ------------------------------ End of TELECOM Digest V14 #85 *****************************

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The L. D. persona...
by dwomack＠runner.utsa.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The other day, I noticed that MacPGP seemed to give credit to a person with the initials L. D. He certainly seems unpopular...was he at one time a more positive force? Or is this a dumb question on my part? Regards, Dave

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FWD: Chaitin speaks near D.C.
by tburns＠mason1.gmu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If anyone wants to go, I doubt that you have to be an official member of WESS to attend. You are required to buy dinner, however. Dave --------- forwarded message follows -------------------- Dear WESSers: The next general dinner meeting is scheduled for March 1, 1994, at Jacques Cafe, 4001 Fairfax Drive in Arlington, VA. The schedule for the evening is as usual: Cocktails at 6:00PM, Dinner at 7:00 PM and the talk at about 8:15 PM. The speaker is Dr. Gregory Chaitin of Watson Research Laboratories of International Business Corporation. Dr. Chaitin is internationally recognized for his work on theories of randomness. ( The tensions between the traditional theories of randomness and the emerging theories of nonlinear deterministic behavior should prove to be stimulating.) The following dinner meeting will be held on March 28th, 1994. The speaker will be Dr. Ben Weems who will discuss "The Evolution of Cognitive Structures". Dr. Koichiro Matsuno (Professor of Biophysics, Nagaoka University) will be visiting the Washington area from March 27, 1994 to March 29, 1994. He is interested in meeting with WESS members during that period. Please drop me a note so that I can arrange a mutually agreeable schedule or contact him directly via Internet at (kmatsuno(a)voscc.nagaokaut.ac.jp) Jerry Abstract ================================================================== THE LIMITS OF MATHEMATICS G. J. Chaitin IBM Research Division P.O. Box 704, Yorktown Heights, NY 10598 chaitin(a)watson.ibm.com One normally thinks that everything that is true is true for a reason. I've found mathematical truths that are true for no reason at all. These mathematical truths are beyond the power of mathematical reasoning because they are accidental and random. ===================== GREGORY CHAITIN is a member of the computer science department at the IBM Watson Research Center in New York. In the mid 1960s, when he was a teenager, he created algorithmic information theory, which combines, among other elements, Shannon's information theory and Turing's theory of computability. In the three decades since then he has been the principal architect of the theory. Among his contributions are the definition of a random sequence via algorithmic incompressibility, and his information-theoretic approach to Godel's incompleteness theorem. His work on Hilbert's 10th problem has shown that in a sense there is randomness in arithmetic, in other words, that God not only plays dice in quantum mechanics and nonlinear dynamics, but even in elementary number theory. He is the author of three books: ALGORITHMIC INFORMATION THEORY published by Cambridge University Press, and INFORMATION, RANDOMNESS & INCOMPLETENESS and INFORMATION-THEORETIC INCOMPLETENESS, both published by World Scientific. = vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Jerry LR Chandler, Ph.D. Phone: 301-496-1846 Epilepsy Br. National Inst Health Fax 301-496-9916 Bethesda, Maryland 20892 Home 703-790-1651 chandler(a)casa.ninds.nih.gov OR chandler(a)helix.nih.gov vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

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Re: CERT Funding
by Matthew J Ghio 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Brad Huntting <huntting(a)glarp.com> wrote: > > Anyone have any more information about how much CERT spends annually, > > and where it comes from? Or should we just assume it is the NSA? > > The main gripe most people have about CERT is that they are way > slow. Could it be that they systematically inform some parties > before others, and that it just so happens that the public at large > is the last to know and the US intelegence community is the first? >From alt.security: ---------- Forwarded message begins here ---------- From: Paul <PAUL(a)TDR.COM> Newsgroups: tdr.general,digex.general,alt.security,comp.security.misc Subject: New List on Computer/Telephone Problems/Bugs/Viruses/Dangers Date: Sun, 20 Feb 1994 01:05:00 -0500 (EST) Organization: Tansin A. Darcos & Company, Silver Spring MD Lines: 72 Message-ID: <9402200105.PAUL(a)TDR.COM> NNTP-Posting-Host: access2.digex.net Followups-To: tdr.general Xref: bb3.andrew.cmu.edu alt.security:5909 comp.security.misc:5565 This is to announce the creation of a list and newsgroup for the public disclosure of bugs, system problems, viruses, and any other conditions in a computer system that people should be aware of so they can fix the problem. It is also appropriate to report security holes, dangerous conditions in PBXs, cellular and wire telephone systems, and other computer-controlled devices. Also reports of things such as default accounts and passwords on systems that should be changed, etc. The focus will be on reporting clear descriptions of problems including how to generate them. The idea being that this will alert people to the nature of certain problems that they might be unaware of. Reproducing these conditions lets others know what is being done, and can allow people to post solutions on how to block them. The purpose in creating this outlet is that currently, the only means currently available for reporting discovered security holes in computer systems and possibly other areas is via the Computer Emergency Research Team (CERT) out of Carnegie Mellon University. The problem with CERT reporting is that the reports generally tend to be done in secrecy, and it fails to let system administrators and others know about what is happening so that these things can be fixed. In short, CERT acts like a black hole and takes too long to publicize problems until lots of places get hit because they didn't know about it. Some people feel that reports should not be publicized because potential reports might become available to "the bad guys." Well, the truth of the matter is that "the bad guys" trade their discoveries around all the time; the current use of secrecy is only hurting "the good guys" who want to protect their systems. There will be two addresses. The general list will be PROBLEMS(a)TDR.COM which is used to post a report to the list. Postings may also be made by facsimile to +1 301 492 7617 to the attention of Paul Robinson, or by telex to USA telex number 6505066432; the answerback is '6505066432MCI UW'. If your site receives all or most newsgroups, the list is echoed to the group tdr.problems. If you do not receive that hierachy (or prefer to receive it as mail), you can subscribe. To subscribe to the list, or to post a report to me that you do not wish to be publicly identified as the sender, use PROBLEMS-REQUEST(a)TDR.COM Currently, both addresses are moderated. This may change as I upgrade the software on my system. Persons wishing to make a report but not be identified should send the message to me at PROBLEMS-REQUEST and state so in the text of their message. Persons wanting to receive this service by facsimile should contact me for details. All messages requesting subscriptions or posting information will be acknowledged. Please pass this announcement around. It is my intent to set this up such that people can publicly report known bugs, viruses and problems in clear detail so everyone knows about them and can encourage much faster response to these problems than is currently available. It may even embarass some manufacturers into making fixes sooner when their errors are glaringly exposed in public. --- Paul Robinson - Paul(a)TDR.COM ----- The following Automatic Fortune Cookie was selected only for this message: Never call a man a fool; borrow from him.

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