I am remailing this using a fake address, by telnetting to port 25 of a remailer from Netcom. Here is how I did it and how anyone else could do it, including Larry Detweiler, who knew how to do this when I was still in my internet diapers:
qwerty: telnet soda.berkeley.edu 25 Trying... Connected to soda.berkeley.edu. Escape character is '^]'. 220-soda.berkeley.edu Sendmail 8.6.5/PHILMAIL-1.10 ready at Wed, 16 Feb 1994 15:05:31 -0800 220 ESMTP spoken here EHLO mail.netcom.com 250-soda.berkeley.edu Hello mail.netcom.com, pleased to meet you 250-EXPN 250-SIZE 250 HELP MAIL From:<L.D.e.t.w.e.i.l.e.r@netcom.com> 250 <L.D.e.t.w.e.i.l.e.r@netcom.com>... Sender ok RCPT To:<hh@soda.berkeley.edu> 250 <hh@soda.berkeley.edu>... Recipient ok DATA 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself Request-Remailing-To: cypherpunks@toad.com
Here is an example of a damaging post, which is damaging in whatever volume it is sent out. For those of you who don't have a sense of humor: THIS IS A JOKE! This isn't real. There IS NOT an offer from Blacknet for such things (at least I don't THINK so)!! -----BEGIN FICTITIOUS DAMAGING POST EXAMPLE----- "Hello, Blacknet Enterprises here. We are looking for kiddie porn. Please use our encrypted remailer block to send us some and we will send you e-money, or make an anonymous deposit in your back account. Thank-you. Remember when you were 12 years old? That Suzy sure was cute! You wanted her then, and you want her now ;-) ! Don't lie; we're all kids at heart. Because at Blacknet: we love EVERYONE." -----END FICTITIOUS DAMAGING POST EXAMPLE----- Since Usenet will not be fully moderated in the next year or two, the only solution which will not backfire and make things worse, is moderated remailing. If someone can send me an AI program that would be able to block the above post, and further block efforts by the same abuser to alter said post to avoid your keyword search, such as changing "Blacknet" to "Black.Net" and "porn" to "pictures", then I will be very amazed. As I've already tried to point out, security starts with people, not technology. If I haven't made my point by now then I guess it's time to unsubscribe, shut down qwerty, and get on with what matters, which is getting PGP, Stealth-PGP, and a few sophisticated steganographs into people's hands. -=Xenon=-
Since Usenet will not be fully moderated in the next year or two, the only solution which will not backfire and make things worse, is moderated remailing.
Backfire on whom? Sounds to me like cold feet. If you don't want to run a remailer and put your actions out in the world, don't. Very simple. If you don't want to take the heat, fine. No one said you had to. But don't expect anyone else to follow you. You do sound a lot like LD. "I'm right. Everyone should do it my way. I'm going to throw tantrums until you do. And if you don't I'm just going to take my ball and go home." You can escape your true name with cryptography, but not your own psyche. Eric
Xenon The Obvious says:
I am remailing this using a fake address, by telnetting to port 25 of a remailer from Netcom. Here is how I did it and how anyone else could do it, including Larry Detweiler, who knew how to do this when I was still in my internet diapers:
Big deal. Anyone can walk up to you with a gun and shoot you too. Hell, I could do that when I was in diapers. The point is not to make Detweiler's life excessively easy -- its not possible to be foolproof. We all know that. BFD. Perry
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