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Re: The "Secure" version of Netscape for Linux is *NOT*
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:25 PM 8/1/96 -0700, Tom Weinstein wrote: >Alan Olsen wrote: >> >> I just installed the "secure" version of Netscape off of the "US Only" >> download site. >> >> Seems that it is actualy the international version and not the 128 bit >> version. > >What makes you think you got the export version? > >Here's one way to find out. If you look in the Security Preferences >panel under the Options menu, there are two "Configure" buttons for >configuring what ciphers are enabled for SSL 2 and SSL 3. The domestic >version supports a greater variety of options, including triple DES. I connected to my site running Stronghold 1.3b1. Only got 40 bit encryption. I then connected to Netscape's Store site. Only got 40 bit encryption. I checked the info box (or about box, I don't remember which) for the connection and it claimed to be running the "exportable" version. (The Win95 version connects properly to both sites with no tweaking needed.) I will double check, but neither site would connect with 128 bits straight out of the tar file. --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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Southern Cracker Beer Bombs in Trucks
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:16 PM 8/1/96, Joey Grasty wrote: >* All joking aside, Jim is a very fine brewmaster. I just wish >he'd spend a few bucks and ferment in something other than 2 liter >coke bottles that explode in someone's truck... "Explode"? Is this one of those southern cracker beer bombs? Let's see...circumstantially, we've got: - a southerner - a truck - an explosion I'd say that if Jim is either overweight or has ever fired a gun, we've got an arrest before dawn. But we've got to hurry--NBC wants Katie Couric present at the bust. --Louis Freeh Buy a section of metal water pipe 1/2 by 6 inches long, threaded on both ends. Buy two metal caps to fit. These are standard items in hardware stores. Drill a 1/16th hole in the center of the pipe. This is easy with a good drill bit. Hanson is a good brand to use. Screw a metal cap tightly on one end. Fill the pipe to within 1/2 inch of the top with black powder. Do not pack the powder. Don't even tap the bottom of the pipe to make it settle. You want the powder loose. For maximum explosive effect, you need dry, fine powder sitting loose in a very rigid container.

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Re: Southern Cracker Beer Bombs in Trucks
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:23 PM 8/1/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >Buy a section of metal water pipe 1/2 by 6 inches long, threaded on both >ends. Buy two metal caps to fit. These are standard items in hardware >stores. Drill a 1/16th hole in the center of the pipe. This is easy with a >good drill bit. Hanson is a good brand to use. Screw a metal cap tightly >on one end. Fill the pipe to within 1/2 inch of the top with black powder. >Do not pack >the powder. Don't even tap the bottom of the pipe to make it settle. You want >the powder loose. For maximum explosive effect, you need dry, fine powder >sitting loose in a very rigid container. For "safety" purposes (at least for the builder!) I would add that the threads on the pipe should be covered with a generous quantity of vaseline, grease, wax, or other similar material. Otherwise, the final tighten-up might cause an explosion if granules of powder get stuck in the threads and ignite due to friction. Evidence reduction tips: Discard drill bit used to make hole in pipe. Carefully avoid leaving any drill shavings in work area. Completely use/discard any extra powder/fuse not used in the bomb. (Chemical analysis will reveal similarity...) When tightening the pipe/cap, shield the work with a thick layer of folded-up paper towel or other material, so your Vice-Grips (or other such wrench, or vice) don't leave "tool marks" on the pipe. (Discard, by burning, such paper after use.) Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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A funny thing happend to my data on the way to the bank
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- The Prime Minister's Social Security Number Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu's US Social Security Number is 172-42-6111, according to the Boston Consulting Group in Massachusetts, which employed Netanyahu for about one-year during 1979-80.=20 The number indicated by the marketing firm contradicts information contained in a credit report by the US federally-regulated Transunion Company, pulled from company files during the first days of July. According to that report, Netanyahu and an American named John J. Sullivan both used Social Security number 020-36-4537. Questions were raised in the reports as to whether Netanyahu had attempted to create a false identity or had used a number which was not his. Publication of the credit report findings, and later reports indicating that Netanyahu's name had suddenly been deleted from Transunion's files, raised additional questions about possible computer break-ins into the company's records. Netanyahu aides have repeatedly claimed that the prime minister does not remember his number. In order to untangle Netanyahu from the issue, aides three weeks ago, asked US officials to provide his number. According to the Prime Minister's Office, that request has yet to be answered. (Jerusalem Post e-mail Edition..7/31.. heather(a)jpost.co.il) =20

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Re: The "Secure" version of Netscape for Linux is *NOT*
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:31 PM 8/1/96 -0700, Alan Olsen wrote: >At 05:25 PM 8/1/96 -0700, Tom Weinstein wrote: >>Alan Olsen wrote: >>> >>> I just installed the "secure" version of Netscape off of the "US Only" >>> download site. >>> >>> Seems that it is actualy the international version and not the 128 bit >>> version. >> >>What makes you think you got the export version? >> >>Here's one way to find out. If you look in the Security Preferences >>panel under the Options menu, there are two "Configure" buttons for >>configuring what ciphers are enabled for SSL 2 and SSL 3. The domestic >>version supports a greater variety of options, including triple DES. > >I connected to my site running Stronghold 1.3b1. Only got 40 bit >encryption. I then connected to Netscape's Store site. Only got 40 bit >encryption. I checked the info box (or about box, I don't remember which) >for the connection and it claimed to be running the "exportable" version. >(The Win95 version connects properly to both sites with no tweaking needed.) > >I will double check, but neither site would connect with 128 bits straight >out of the tar file. My apologies to everyone involved! I fucked up! There was a period of time between when I downloaded and when I installed. The version I installed was not the one I installed from the secure site. (I had thought I had not downloaded the 3.0b5 version for Linux, except for the secure version. It seems that I had downloaded it when the first version of 3.0b5 came out, not the 3.0b5a version...) Sorry again! --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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Re: Is 1024-bit PGP key enough?
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:16 PM 8/1/96 -0400, "Geoffrey C. Grabow" <gcg(a)pb.net> wrote: >Also, remember that although the PGP key is 1024 bits, it generates a much >smaller IDEA key with 56 bits (I think... anyone?). The 56 bit key is >vunerable to that $1 mil mystery machine that the NSA may or may not have. The PGP RSA keysize is user-selectable. The IDEA key is not 56 bits (that's DES) - it's 128 bits, and remember that you currently need to use brute force keysearch on it, unlike RSA keys which have to be much longer because they have special forms and can be cracked by prime-number searching, which is a much faster process that doesn't have to try anything near to every 1024-bit number. As somebody else pointed out, the 128-bit IDEA key is about as strong as a 3000-bit RSA key - though that was before the latest factoring algorithm was demonstrated to work so well, which means that it's probably about as strong as a 4-5000-bit RSA key. > | That which does not kill us, makes us stranger. - Trevor Goodchild | :-) # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # <A HREF="http://idiom.com/~wcs"> # Dispel Authority!

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Re: Internal Passports (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 1 Aug 1996 18:53:57 -0700 (MST) > From: drose(a)AZStarNet.com (David M. Rose) > Subject: Re: Internal Passports > > OK. But I sure would like to have an automatic weapon for > self/home/"national" defense w/o going through a tremendous amount of B.S. > (as Israelis are excused from). I believe that you Texans and we Arizonans > have the privilege; in "urban" states, where the need truly is, good luck. We have to go through the same BS that you do to get automatic weapons. > Also, I don't know what your experience in the Middle East is. Me, I worked > in Iran and exited just before the Jan. '79 "revolution". Menace & murder. > You *really* have no idea. Hint: I'm alive. > > If you still (I don't know your age) think that humans are all the same, but > we juss gots diffrunt colors 'n' cultures, I *strongly* recommend an > extended period of travel to the third world. I do and I have. Jim Choate

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Re: fbi, crypto, and defcon
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:50 AM 8/2/96 EDT, Paul J. Bell wrote: >i, for one, and perhaps others on the list as well, would be interested in hearing >what you mean when you say, "At&t, Microsoft, etc) who are ripping people off on a >daily basis". I don't know about Microsoft but certainly AT&T long benefitted from local telephone monopolies that resulted in increased prices and slower innovation than would otherwise have been delivered. Even today, long distance carriers are licensed and there are substantial regulatory barriers to entry. International calls still are made under the control of an international cartel of governments that keep prices way above competitive levels. This benefits AT&T and the rest. Since it costs 2 cents a minute to *produce* a call to London from New York the 45 cents to $1 a minute charged represent an excessive price protected by the government regulated cartel status of telecoms even in the Age of Deregulation. AT&T should get honest work as should the others. Maybe when I get a 10 (25?) mbps cable connection to the nets, I'll start offering my neighbors net connections and LD phone service. I could make a pretty penny even savagely cutting the telco's markup. Lots of challenges ther but doable. DCF

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Re: More evidence that democracy is bunk
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 1 Aug 96 at 15:34, E. ALLEN SMITH wrote: > And some people think democracies secure civil liberties... > -Allen And some people think polls are an accurate representation of anything. Chances are it's really a poll of people with telephones who just finished watching news reports about increased threats of terrorism. Depends on the exact questions that were asked of them, too... [..] > > As an antidote, 80 percent believe the federal government should have > > more power to investigate terrorists, but just 52 percent believe > > wiretaps should be expanded. Note that 'more power to investigate terrorists' is vague. Very vague, especially if the actual question was "should the federal government be given a greater ability to investigate terrorists?" (which is not the same as 'more power'... greater ability could be more funds or manpower, for instance.) Often time pollsters will introduce the question with a short paragraph or statistics explaining the situation... often these will cue someone in to be more likely to answer a certain way. If the pollster says "with the increase in terrorist activisties in the United States and new communications technologies, should the federal government..." a respondant will be more likely to agree that the gov't should have more power. > > Three out of five said they still favor giving the government more > > power even if that meant groups unrelated to terrorism were > > investigated, too. That's vague too. What was the question: "...even if it meant a charity that was exploited by a terrorist group was investigated" or a "political group which a suspected terrorist belonged too" etc.? > > Even if it cost more, nearly nine out of 10 people surveyed want > > more security checkpoints, guards and metal detectors -- and > > they'd be willing to wait longer in lines -- at public events. If they were asked if they minded random searches of their bags and belongings or required to carry photo-ID wherever they went, to be presented on demand, would they still be willing? Rob --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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Pipe bombs
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

So now we are to spend the next six or eight months putting instructions on how to build pipe bombs in our .sigs, reading endless analyses of how the "Antiterrorism and Safety Act of 1996" is unconstitutional, following the CDA-type emergency challenge mounted by VTW/ACLU/NRA, and wondering who will be arrested first. Fuck them. Fuck Swinestein, Klinton, Gingrich, and all the rest. And fuck Dole. (On second thought, don't--it might not be a survivable experience.) I say they've all earned only our contempt. It's time to accelerate our efforts to undermine this foolish experiment in pandering to the masses. --Tim May Buy a section of metal water pipe 1/2 by 6 inches long, threaded on both ends. Buy two metal caps to fit. These are standard items in hardware stores. Drill a 1/16th hole in the center of the pipe. This is easy with a good drill bit. Hanson is a good brand to use. Screw a metal cap tightly on one end. Fill the pipe to within 1/2 inch of the top with black powder. Do not pack the powder. Don't even tap the bottom of the pipe to make it settle. You want the powder loose. For maximum explosive effect, you need dry, fine powder sitting loose in a very rigid container.

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