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Re: Commerce Undersecretary William Reinsch defends the governments encryption policy
by Ernest Hua 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Michael, Absolutely! But I still really am hoping in desperation that some people in the main stream press would get a clue that this is all double speak, and that they are simply playing a game to buy time for their old system, and buy political wins for the next system. Heck, if I was in FBI/NSA's shoes, and this was the slimy game I see everyday in D.C., it would be the same game I play to get what I need. And I would be very irresponsible if I did not play the game, however slimy it is. The problem is that it seems like most of the public take speeches like the speakers are pretty much honest, when in fact, most of the time, they are playing spin control. I have no doubt the FBI/NSA are in trouble. Echelon (or whatever they call it) is in trouble. They are irresponsible if they did not fight to the end to preserve some of their multi-billion $$$ investment, but they are in dire straits if they are hoping for a second generation centralized scanning intelligence machinery like Echelon. My belief is that they have to gather automated intelligence from far more disparate and heterogenous (and possibly conflicting) sources in the near future, and find ways to make sense out of all of the data. But I think the intelligent observer would see that they have no choice because this technology .. I hate that word because people call some of the most simple and dumb stuff "technology" in order to make money from it .. this technology is impossible to control, which means that precisely the most important target worth going after will have plenty of resources to foil Echelon, but the people made most vulnerable (because of the regulations) are the common folks. THAT is what is pissing me off. If they have some effective way to regulate underground trade of encryption, then they would have a story to tell. However, the fact that most encryption get out of this country so darn fast (we're counting minutes now ...) means they are not even trying. Prosecuting that guy in San Jose is just nuts. Since when does prosecuting a legitimate business man will actually stop people, who firmly believing that they have some natural right to distribute encryption? And I must emphasize that my opinion has NOTHING to do with whether encryption SHOULD, from a social/political/legal view, be exportable or not. Ern

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mail2fax remailer capability? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 20:14:40 +0100 > From: Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> > Subject: mail2fax remailer capability? > Has anyone come across any mail2fax site which tries to keep track of > other free fax services and forward faxes to one in the right area? It wouldn't surprise me any to find that Kinko's and other such chain print shops couldn't do that sort of thing. Now if they'd do it over the web.... > ('Course if we could get some damn working ecash, we could fax it > anywhere -- sender pays:-) Open a laundromat, at least one person here in Austin has begun providing smart-card/no cash services. > Next stage -- anonymous voice mail delivered via voice modem / > soundcard, all via mixmaster, that would be nice! An anonymous remailer which drove a multi-format/media database would be pretty nifty. Might find more than a few niche markets to dabble in as well. In a sense you'd have your own little one machine data-haven. ____________________________________________________________________ To know what is right and not to do it is the worst cowardice. Confucius The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Elliptic Curve Rumor
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 10:53:16 -0700 To: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> From: Somebody Subject: Elliptic Curve Rumor Mime-Version: 1.0 I assume you will pass this information on. Please don't associate my name with it. I have heard that Apple has a working implementation of Elliptic Curve Cryptography. Because of the export regulations they don't want to include it in their products. If anyone wants to try to change their minds, now would be a good time. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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Ooops, didn't save? FlashBack!
by Aladdin Systems 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I suppose I am developing a reputation amongst the Inside the Beltway Cyber Rights Groups (tm) as a pain in the ass, but nearly everytime I see one of their chief spokeswonks giving a policy statement I realize they are "not on my side." The latest quote is from Marc Rotenberg, on a CNN piece on spam and anti-spam legislation, saying that what the legislators in Congress really need to look into is how the spammers develop their data bases..... Incredible. Does he propose investigations of private data gathering? Perhaps search warrants served on those who take public postings and construct data bases? Look, I'm annoyed by getting 5-10 "unwanted" spam messages a day. But I realize the "spammers" are merely taking publicly available (= legally available, as 99.99% of all such information is) information and using legal channels to contact me. I may not "like" it, but their behavior is as legal as someone calling me on the phone. (And ny nearly any measure of hassle factor, dashing to get to the phone only to find it's a salesman selling something I don't want is worse than any 20 unwanted e-mail messages.) So, Marc Rotenberg wants Congress to "look into" (= interfere with) compilation and use of public information. These people are NOT our allies. --Tim May There's something wrong when I'm a felon under an increasing number of laws. Only one response to the key grabbers is warranted: "Death to Tyrants!" ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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ADfilter 2.1 Registration Code
by cypherpunks＠toad.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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DoT National ID card delayed; CDA II signed soon
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 18:45:12 -0700 (PDT) >From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> >To: politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu >Subject: FC: DoT National ID card delayed; CDA II signed soon >X-No-Archive: Yes >Sender: owner-politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu >Reply-To: declan(a)well.com >X-Loop: politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu >X-URL: Politech is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ > >http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/15635.html > >Newt Caves on National ID Cards >by Declan McCullagh > > 5:45 p.m. 15.Oct.98.PDT > When the staff at the conservative Free > Congress Foundation learned Thursday > that legislation postponing a federal plan > to standardize US drivers licenses was in > trouble, they turned to the Internet for > help. > > Patrick Poole, deputy director of the > groups Center for Technology Policy, > quickly fired off an email alert to 500 > grassroots conservative and libertarian > groups. He said Representative Lamar > Smith (R-Texas) was trying to preserve > regulations creating de facto national ID > cards, and he urged readers to let > Congress know exactly what middle > America thought about such big > government boondoggles... > > > >http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/15638.html > >CDA II Bound for Clinton's Desk >by Declan McCullagh > > 2:45 p.m. 15.Oct.98.PDT > Wielding a potent political bludgeon -- by > accusing Democrats of being soft on > pornography just weeks before the > election -- Republicans on Thursday > inserted the sequel to the > Communications Decency Act into a > sprawling $500 billion spending bill. > > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >POLITECH -- the moderated mailing list of politics and technology >To subscribe: send a message to majordomo(a)vorlon.mit.edu with this text: >subscribe politech >More information is at http://www.well.com/~declan/politech/ >-------------------------------------------------------------------------- >

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Re: Who is next? (re Jim's subpoena)
by DOOM Anonymous Untraceable User 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Could you mean this.... First they came for the Communists, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Communist. Then they came for the Jews, and I didn't speak up, because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the Catholics, and I didn't speak up, because I was a Protestant. Then they came for me, and by that time there was no one left to speak up for me. by Rev. Martin Niemoller, 1945. William J. Hartwell wrote: > > This ran through my mind this morning before I was totally awake. Maybe > somebody can help me with the original author of this.... > > When they came for Kevin Mitnick I said nothing. After all he was a big > time hacker and I wasn't a hacker so I did not speak up. > > When they came for Jim Bell I said nothing. He was a criminal and I am not > a criminal so I didn't speak up. > > When they came for Toto I said nothing. Surely he was nuts and I am > completely sane so I didn't speak up. > > When they came for Jim Choate I said nothing. He runs a cypherpunks mailing > list and I don't manage any lists so I didn't speak up. > > When they come for me who will be left to speak up? > > This is a poor paraphrase of the original but I wonder if it is something > that we may be saying here in the U.S. soon? > > -- > William J. Hartwell > (602)987-8436 > Queencreek, Az. > > billh(a)ibag.com billh(a)interdem.com billh(a)hartwell.net

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Re: LUGGAGE, GARMENT BAGS, BREIFCASES, ETC.
by HyperReal-Anon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ms. Anges Lek, Managing Director We have urgent need for suitcases that enable transport of laptop computers through customs without search. Please provide case histories. Tim May wrote: > > At 5:07 AM -0700 10/15/98, sendus(a)earthcorp.com wrote: > >Dear reader, > > > >We have just visited your website and became interested to develop a > >trading relationship with you company. > > > >We are a major manufacturer of a full range of luggage, bags, and > >trolleys.For full details > >mailto:sendus@earthcorp.com?Subject=BESTPLUS_IDUSTRIES_LTD. > > > >Thank you very much, > > > >Ms. Anges Lek, > >Managing Director > > > > Thank you for posting this to our list! > > We are very interested in specialized types of luggage. We seek suitcases > and briefcases in which various items may be hidden. The usual items: > money, papers, drugs, chemicals, and various pyrotechnic assemblies. > > Please describe your experience in fabricating such items, and please list > some of your more famous clients. > > Warning: We have very high standards! The luggage we use now has been used > to export the PGP source code disks to Finland and Holland, and such > esteemed travellers as Pablo Escobar, Abu Nidal, and the Engineer have used > the same products we use. > > We look forward to your reply. > > --Asama bin May, Director of Delivery Operations, World Liberation Front

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legal EAR work-around/Paper based remailers
by Adam Back 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

EAR says that you can't export crypto in electronic form. EAR says you can export crypto in textual form. We have electronic cash in terms of MT banks digicash. Email is more convenient for exporting crypto source code and binaries that snail mail. Let's do it. Here's what we need: 1. US entrepreneur to accept mail with :: Snail-To: <street address (outside US)> Snail-Fee: <Fee + 2c/sheet + postage stamp charge, digicash> Scanning-Fee: <50c/sheet, digicash> Request-Remailing-To: <cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net> Anon-Post-To: alt.cypherpunks US volunteer strips off first two headers, prints out the document in a large OCR friendly font. Puts in envelope and posts at highest priority snail that can be paid for out of the included postage (overnight/air-mail/slow-boat). 2. Non-US entrepreneur to scan and remail results :: Scanning-Fee: <50c/sheet, digicash> Request-Remailing-To: <cypherpunks(a)toad.com> Anon-Post-To: alt.cypherpunks US volunteer scans the sheets, mails/post them to the requested email address/newsgroup, and collects his digicash fee per sheet. I volunteer for #2. (You understand the importance of the Scanning-Fee, I can pay someone to feed sheets into a scanner if needs be with a fee, without that I can become overloaded with a ream of paper representing the binary for PGP5.0). Legal questions: I'd be interested in legal interpretations of whether the above scheme is legal for the US entrepreneur. Peter Junger said a short while ago on the list that printed material could be exported under the EAR regulations administered by Commerce Dept. Does this scheme qualify? Technical questions: If this is to include uuencoded or radix-64 mime encoding, we might want to think about redundancy to allow error correction. Perhaps we want that anyway to ensure that what we have is 100% character-by-character perfect. Or perhaps not as it may damage the legality aspects. They may start saying that you can only export human readable stuff on paper, etc. Then we move on to `texto' apparently human readable steganographically encoded paper based remailer messages. Adam -- Have *you* exported RSA today? --> http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"|dc`

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