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Re: Card Playing Protocol?
by jamiel＠sybase.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:44 PM 07/15/94 -0400, Kent Borg wrote: >Comments? Suggestions for a game other than cards that would be >better or more suitable? What about implementing a Multiplayer Game Protocol? That way, you can play cards, checkers, chess, Life(TM), - all those games that used to be really popular circa precolor macintoshes. Have an API for game developers to plug into and let the net.gaming begin. >Is anyone already working on a Card Playing Protocol? Not that I know of, but this is both good and silly enough that I might see if I can find some time. Need to bone back up on real coding... >-kb, the Kent who tries to cause trouble jl, the Jamie who appreciates the subtle. -j -- "Blah Blah Blah" ___________________________________________________________________ Jamie Lawrence <jamiel(a)sybase.com>

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ACAPULCO H.E.A.T.
by Sandy Sandfort 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SANDY SANDFORT . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . C'punks, Today's episode of "Acapulco H.E.A.T." was a treasure trove of privacy and technology issues. The story was about a renegade biologist who had "supplied both sides with biological weapons in the Iran-Iraq war." It seems he's now living in South America where he owns a casino and--in his spare time--is using genetic engineering to create an army of super-soldiers. The only example we see, though, is a steroidal acromegalic who looks like a young Arnold (he has some sort of European accent, too). H.E.A.T. "hack" the casino's computers to give themselves a million dollar line of credit. In the meantime, they use a homing device they plant on the bad guys van, they find his secret jungle lab where they plant a microcam to spy on the bad guy's genetic operation. Through the use of a room bug the *fire* into an exterior wall with a rifle, they learn that the bad guy and an accomplice use marked cards, which can be read with special contact lenses, to cheat at chemin de fer. Using a special hand-held electronic lock pick, our heroes defeat a card-key hotel lock and break into the room in which the marked cards are kept. There, they substitute their own marked deck. After that, a fortune gets won, things get blown up, machine-guns are fired, truth and justice prevail. The usual. While this episode had no bikinis, it also had no Fabio. As they say in Blackjack, it was a "push." S a n d y P.S. There was no "Acapulco H.E.A.T." report last week. Fabio was in that episode, and he tried to act. I was too bilious to write. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: ID card from hell
by frissell＠panix.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 02:04 PM 7/15/94 PDT, Blanc Weber wrote: >First they nationalize your possessions, then your mind: but it can >also be done the other way: while everyone is freely engaging in >commercial transactions across national boundaries, in the background >everyone is being corralled into a national identity scheme >the connection to the Holy Leadership is always maintained, like a >tether - you always know, psychologically, to whom you are attached >and to whom therefore, you must surrender your money, your time, your >identity card........ The advantage of expatriation. If you are in a country other than that of your birth there is less of a psychological burden. The government is just another thing to deal with. No magic associations from childhood. This is particularly true if you move around. Dual nationality helps too. You can buy same for <$25K from various Carribean nations. DCF "Anyone with at least one grandparent (living or dead) born in Ireland (including Northern Ireland) is an Irish citizen. All you need do is apply for a passport."

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Re: Triple encryption...
by DAVESPARKS＠delphi.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Adam Shostack <adam(a)bwh.harvard.edu> wrote: > While the IDEA in th middle might slow down a meet in the > middle attack on 2DES, I don't know that you're justified in claiming > 112 bits of DES key space without something like: > > des|des|IDEA|des If IDEA can be *TRIVIALLY* broken, and assuming the availability of the massive amounts of memory needed to store all of the data required for a MITM attack, then you're technically correct. But, even granting that possibility for the time being, you still have the equivalent of 57 bits of DES keyspace, which is better than totally relying on 3DEA. While a "super DES breaker" machine has been hypothesized, and a cost to build it estimated, I don't recall anyone doing so for a "MITM DES breaker" which would require incredible amounts of memory. At a minimum, it would require not only *TWO* super-DES-crackers, but a very sophistocated machine to gather the blocks generated by all of the various parallel processors comprising the other two machines, store, and continually compare them, searching for matches. IMHO, that "middle" machine would be far more complex and expensive than the other two. A MITM attack might, theoretically, take only twice as long as attacking a single layer, the cost of doing so would be much more than twice as large. Anyone care to estimate what the cost of the RAM alone for the "MITM interface" machine would be? Let's see, for two 56 bit beys, you'd need storage for 2^57 blocks of 8 bytes each, or 2^60 bytes. At $40 per Mb, or so, that would come to ... let's see ... $4 * 10^51 for memory alone. And once the list of blocks started growing as the attack progressed, could the interface processor keep up with the other two, in real time? Massively parallel processors might speed both ends of the attack, but the "database comparison phase" would be the real bottleneck, IMHO. /--------------+------------------------------------\ | | Internet: davesparks(a)delphi.com | | Dave Sparks | Fidonet: Dave Sparks @ 1:207/212 | | | BBS: (909) 353-9821 - 14.4K | \--------------+------------------------------------/

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Detweiller
by Random H0Z3R 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

hello, I hope this isn't a stupid question (if it is, the anonymity protects me!!) ghio said that Detweiller must have forged that Big Collision message sent to his remailer, because the person it was attributed to hadn't logged in. I wonder if "rsh" shows up in that type of login?? maybe he "rsh"ed to the account to send from there?!?! and didn't log in to have a cover story?? btw, I haven't seen anything from Detweiller at tmp(a)netcom.com. I assume he still has the account?!?! maybe if someone calls netcom and complains they will do something?? i'm glad ghio caught that message in his mailbox through careful screening so that it wouldn't go out to the newsgroups. I always thought the remailers were automated, but I guess in most case the operators are screening all the stuff. this is good, because we don't need any more Detweiller junk out there (amazing how peaceful things are without him!!!) too bad if the message was forged, because it would be LOTS of fun to EXPOSE THE BASTARD!!! (insert evil smirk here) BTW, here is something I was wondering. on the Detweiller message he has an "errors-to: /dev/null" field. what does that do? why did he put that in there, anyway? i've never seen any documentation reference it. do the remailers handle it? "wondering"

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Re: Leaving the Country
by kentborg＠world.std.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

frissell(a)panix.com writes: >All the New England States including Taxachussets have State Liquor Stores. Nope. As a many year Mass resident I have never seen a state liquor store in the state. Sure, plenty across the border in New Hampster, but not in MA. One of New Hampster's big tax sources is nasty property taxes. Nice regressive taxes on wealth (both taxing wealth and regressive taxes annoy me), to support a state which does its best to not exist. -kb, the Kent who is currently in California where I can buy booze on *Sunday*, and at a *grocery* store. Cool! -- Kent Borg +1 (617) 776-6899 kentborg(a)world.std.com kentborg(a)aol.com Proud to claim 32:00 hours of TV viewing so far in 1994!

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Re: National ID cards are just the driver's licenses...
by frissell＠panix.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:59 PM 7/15/94 -0700, sameer wrote: > Keep in mind though.. Tim says this often and I agree with >him. The splinter lists have *not* had much traffic. I created the >remailer-operators list, and there hasn't been much traffic. I wasn't >surprised, but I thought I may as well start it. (Whenever I do any >remailer hacking and/or changes I *will* [I think I have, as well] >post to the remailer-operators list.. I still encourage others to do >the same.) A Hardcore Privacy list could well get more "crossover" action than a list for a Cypherpunks-specific topic. DCF "Note that the future capability to conduct a wide range of financial transactions electronically will allow anyone on earth to wake up in the morning and say 'I guess I'll become a bank today.' A bank is just a network node running a particular flavor of server software."

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Factoring
by L. Todd Masco 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

jamesd(a)netcom.com (James A. Donald) writes: > n is the number of bits, and factoring can be done in considerably less > than 2^(n/2) > > When discussing complexity it is usual to use a measure of problem > size that corresponds to the physical size of the answer or > the question. > > Thus thus if you are factoring a 1024 bit number, n is 1024, not > 2^1024 Ah. Thank you -- it's amazing the number of obviously wrong answers I received to my question, all of them taking an authoritative tone (from "your algorithm doesn't work" (it does) to "your algorithm takes enormous amounts of memory" (in fact, it takes 3n)). Makes one realize (again) how sceptical one must be towards answers received on the 'net, "even" from cypherpunks. [This isn't to slam anyone, just to suggest that people take a little more time to think before hitting the 'r' key.] -- L. Todd Masco | Bibliobytes books on computer, on any UNIX host with e-mail cactus(a)bb.com | "Information wants to be free, but authors want to be paid."

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Traceless Calling
by kevin＠beach.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For anyone interested in private communications: We have a way to make untraceable phone, fax and modem calls! We've negotiated with a reseller to pre-pay a (huge)chunk of minutes at a set price. No information is taken. My company simply gives them the money and they give us an 800 number and a ton of random access codes to get into their network...from anywhere in the world(it can also be used as a travel card). We then make the number and codes available with no record of ownership. As well, by the time we distribute the access codes, they have been sequestered through 3 levels of distribution. Payment is made up front in cash or by money order and no record is kept of who gets which access code. No records, no invoicing, no auditing by Uncle Sam. Just complete communications privacy. Access codes are available in blocks of 100 minutes for $75. Volume discounts are available. FYI, another company is providing this same service at 90 minutes for $99. Call or email: Kevin T. Smith, President TeleSource A Division of SonRise Corp. (408) 247-4782 voice (408) 247-1070 fax ksmith(a)beach.com *****************NeXTMail Preferred********************

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www for cypherpunks' collection
by Gary Jeffers 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At the location: http://pmip.maricopa.edu/crypt/cypherpunks/Cypherpunks.src is the location of all the Cypherpunks' posts with index. I can get to this place by placing a "www" in front of this instruction. However, then, their are no "hyper" keys to push. Some key words are listed but I don't know how to use them to get info.. Anyone familiar with www & got some answers?. Yours Truly, Gary Jeffers

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