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RE: Mass-market crypto phones
by Clay Olbon II 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:41 AM 11/22/96 -6, Peter Trei wrote (in part): >It's kind of pathetic - I'm sure that the billions lost to cellular fraud >far outweigh the value of crimes that the LEA groups have been >able prevent by preserving their ability to illegally eavesdrop on >cell calls without a warrant. Lots of TV specials lately on stealing cell-phone codes and cloning phones. Seems to me that this would be ridiculously easy to stop using crypto. As a side issue (related to your comment about banning the listening in on cell-phone calls). I find it pretty amazing that it is possible to make it illegal to listen to signals broadcast over public airways. Yet another way crypto will help society - it will make such laws restricting our freedoms obsolete. Clay >Peter Trei >trei(a)process.com >(standard disclaimer applies) > >Peter Trei >Senior Software Engineer >Purveyor Development Team >Process Software Corporation >http://www.process.com >trei(a)process.com ******************************************************* Clay Olbon olbon(a)ix.netcom.com engineer, programmer, statistitian, etc. **********************************************tanstaafl

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Re: Word Lists
by pjb＠ny.ubs.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

this used to be a good site for what you want. YMMV "An anonymous ftp server has been built on wocket.vantage.gte.com which contains the following files in the pub/standard_dictionary directory:" -paul > From cypherpunks-errors(a)toad.com Fri Nov 22 03:04:16 1996 > X-Sender: camcc(a)smtp1.abraxis.com > X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 17:29:07 -0500 > To: kb4vwa(a)juno.com (Edward R. Figueroa) > From: camcc(a)abraxis.com (Alec) > Subject: Re: Word Lists > Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type> : > text/plain> ; > charset="us-ascii"> > Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Content-Length: 1012 > > At 01:40 PM 11/21/96, you wrote: > :I'm looking for a Large Word List, for a pkcrack program. > : > :Anyone have any idea where to find one, or how to convert a dictionary > :formated file to a wordlist file? > : > :Ed > : > http://world.std.com/~reinhold/diceware.wordlist.asc > > This is the wordlist for Diceware, and I quote, "7776 short English words, > abbreviations and easy to remember character strings. The average length of > each word is about 4.2 characters. The biggest words are six characters long. > > The list is based a longer word list posted to the Internet news group > sci.crypt by Peter Kwangjun Suk." > > This may not be long enough for your needs. > > The address of the Diceware page is > > http://world.std.com/~reinhold/diceware.page.html > > Good luck. > > Cordially, > > Alec > > PGP Fingerprint: > Type bits/keyID Date User ID > pub 1024/41207EE5 1996/04/08 Alec McCrackin <camcc(a)abraxis.com> > Key fingerprint = 09 13 E1 CB B3 0C 88 D9 D7 D4 10 F0 06 7D DF 31 > > >

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Report on Net Tax Policy
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The US Treasury Department's report "Selected Tax Policy Implications of Global Electronic Commerce," reported this morning in the NYT, is available at: ftp://ftp.fedworld.gov/pub/tel/internet.wp (260 kb; WordPerfect 6.1) We've prepared an HTML version at: http://jya.com/taxpolicy.htm (140 kb) Here's the TOC Section I: Introduction Executive Summary 1. Introduction Section II: Technical Background 2. An Overview of the Global Information Infrastructure or "Information Superhighway" 3. The World Wide Web and Electronic Commerce 4. Security and Encryption 5. Payment Mechanisms Section III: Tax Policy and Administration Issues 6. Tax Policy and Administration Issues: General Considerations 7. Substantive Tax Law Issues 8. Tax Administration and Compliance Issues 9. Conclusion Glossary Notes

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Re: RE: Mass-market crypto phones
by Jim Ray 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Sat Nov 23 14:16:14 1996 Peter Trei wrote: <snip> > It's kind of pathetic - I'm sure that the billions lost to cellular fraud > far outweigh the value of crimes that the LEA groups have been > able prevent by preserving their ability to illegally eavesdrop on > cell calls without a warrant. I agree, but to the LEAs, the "value of crimes" includes asset forfeiture "profits," which change that accounting in favor of eavesdropping (in their minds, at least). Of course, cellular fraud is paid for by others who, if they're politically active at all, are likely to demand even more money for the LEAs. A win -- win situation (in their minds, at least). JMR Regards, Jim Ray DNRC Minister of Encryption Advocacy One of the "legitimate concerns of law enforcement" seems to be that I was born innocent until proven guilty and not the other way around. -- me Please note new 2000bit PGPkey & address <jmr(a)shopmiami.com> PGP id.A7D63DA9 98 1F 39 BA 93 86 B4 F5 57 52 64 0E DA BA 2C 71 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEPAwUBMpdNgjUhsGSn1j2pAQFCbQfOJss3rMfEaWt1kv8oNfiOvwtoaa15s6lc vOVqG9dBMKCI41/x+k8Jzsb4pVvQOu4cXtUvIDOojY3JvmEzO9EVl125o8/pDxZy iNqgpLic8Px0R/uASJCj9T0nnFemRmY+QznaQNMdgLs92nOHuEK6Kfi66lqEGmda CxeuOSdijI+U741bU1a7xjqhc0uwj4ycsjmBB9nOKPSIsbZZYkYcDirT0z/l1F48 aVFphyzek4FjhIaFNFTdGs9YUkJM7hJJ0EfpxeWUeBAfyjkphrATXnW2WGF/iExo 32h6EYgso94VCT7LiWfK20pQ4Mk43i6xemjDdPS+9oS93Q== =eZ9E -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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re: [NOISE] sci fi
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:48:22 +0100 (MET) > From: Asgaard <asgaard(a)Cor.sos.sll.se> > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: re: sci fi > On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Alan Olsen wrote: > > For absolute brain candy, I recommend "Star Smashers of the Galaxy > > Rangers". EE.Doc Smith meets the Hardy Boys. The ending I had to read > > twice... > A rather odd book that I found immensely stimulating is > 'Venus on a halfshell' by a Nym (allegedly for Kurt Vonnegut, > who in most of his books under his own name now and then > refers to some hilarious non-existing SF story by this 'author'). > Asgaard "Star Smashers" first appeared under a wierd 'Generic Book' imprint in the late 70s/early 80s. There were a series of them - with plain white covers and black capital titles such as "SCIENCE FICTION", "ROMANCE", "WESTERN", "MYSTERY", etc, all actually by well respected authors in their respective fields. I think "Star Smashers' was by Harry Harrison, but am not sure. VotHS claimed to have been written by Kilgore Trout, an third rate SF author who exists only in the works of Kurt Vonnegut. However, the actual author is Phillip Jose Farmer, whom Kurt granted permission to use the character as a joke at a party. Farmer then wrote and published VotHS, perfectly imitating Vonnegut's style, to Vonnegut's great dismay. Peter Trei trei(a)process.com

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[noise] Re: Why I Don't Read SF Much Anymore
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:14 AM 11/21/96 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote: ... >- John Brunner, "The Shockwave Rider," and, my favorite, "Stand on >Zanzibar." Required reading. As Shalmaneser would put it, "Christ, what an >imagination he had." ... Anyone else notice similarites between the protagonist in "The Shockwave Rider" and "The Pretender" the new Television series. They both even have sympathetic pursuers. Any wagers on how long it will take the pretender to turn his old handler? BTW, Tim, I don't mean to offend you by adding noise to the front, but this post is a little off topic, mine not yours. I seem to have offended someone else by doing something similar.

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by Success 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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FAQ on legalities SSLeay, &c.
by P. J. Ponder 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

the recently posted FAQ on crytpo patent expiration dates etc. stated that MD5 and SHA were not export-restricted anywhere. The FIPS Pub for SHA (which I think is numbered 180-1) specifically states that SHA is export controlled (by ITAR). I asked this list why it would be controlled, since it was a signature function, and Perry Metzger replied that crypto hash functions make good starting points for building a block cipher program. there is a section in Schneier's _Applied Crypto_ on this, too. anybody heard from the old Perry-grammer on his list project? I miss him. He would be having a field day with all this noise. surprised there hasn't been more chatter about the improved differential fault analysis (IDFA). That is pretty powerful stuff. They just don't make tamper-proof like they used to. Forget chomping on the keyspace, read the modulus and divide by the public key. I like the reference to the 'Mafia EFT/POS'. ObSciFi: Go back and read the Preface (by Bruce Sterling) to Gibson's _Burning Chrome_ collection. He talks about the sorry state of SF in the 1980's and how Gibson, among others, was turning out something new. Hmph.

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Re: IPG Algorith Broken!
by Jim Ray 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Sun Nov 24 09:59:36 1996 Uni wrote: > On Sat, 23 Nov 1996 wichita(a)cyberstation.net wrote: > > > To obtain your organization free operational demonstration copy, > please > > send an e-mail request to: > > > > ipgsales(a)cyberstation.net > > > > You must include your snail-mail address and telephone number in said > > request. > > Now THIS has potential! Indeed. Note that he calls it "organization free" above. Obviously, his operation's entire marketing department is an excellent source of randomness.:) JMR Regards, Jim Ray DNRC Minister of Encryption Advocacy One of the "legitimate concerns of law enforcement" seems to be that I was born innocent until proven guilty and not the other way around. -- me Please note new 2000bit PGPkey & address <jmr(a)shopmiami.com> PGP id.A7D63DA9 98 1F 39 BA 93 86 B4 F5 57 52 64 0E DA BA 2C 71 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEPAwUBMphi3DUhsGSn1j2pAQHJ0gfQzgWGEb2lJ3KSPWGn3td/k2veuxZDjkHu OlITK3W6zT9MUWqh4KrdvQkt7Z/RzRls+uJPr7ZChS8f6FSHHvGWSmnTBZb+Bav8 JGJqcq+b/BwuUJ0RmVbGL9N7BCCXICroIdGQc1R+DmUuTMcqaAxD9bYWYbs/JSr0 Q00u3L/w8djc74sR2dS3PWmwF9PGLlmKrVQijY/q7WUNhKJDoZR4w511hswVHn1N BMjR49s+5Gh3N6eaRnKx/B2GnByhvL5Sgai2uPAqT5tFiA7R1nxnHZIlgMplYKsw 27nUWGYFpM+gP/wppw1neZqJcu4xKzg25IN4QIe86T78oA== =WUGy -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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how much entropy in common answers
by Pat Farrell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've been playing arround with some code to implement CME's secret sharing using low entropy answers. (His write-up is in http://www.clark.net/pub/cme/html/rump96.html) In the write-up, Carl says " That means that it has very low entropy. For example, a person's first name has only about 8 bits of entropy. Car makes and models have only 2 to 4 bits of entropy -- especially if one is naming cars desirable to a teenager." Further on, he says "Therefore, if each answer has entropy E, the attacker must correctly guess T=(EK) bits of answers. If T exceeds 90 bits or so, then the user is reasonably secure from answer-guessing attacks." (where K is the number of questions) My question is, how do we measure the entropy of each answer so we can calculate when we've got 90 or so bits. I know when I was a teenager, the list of car lust objects was short, and everyone wanted a Mustang or Camaro, so the entropy of those two choices was much less than half a bit. A similar idea was mentioned in a critique of the plot of West Side Story. The question is, on a hot night in Spanish Harlem, what percentage of women are named "Maria"? Clearly there are cultural issues involved. The entropy in a question such as "what is your favorite brother's name?" is low in an Irish family like mine where names cluster arround choices such as are Patrick, John, Sean, and Dan. So how do we measure the entropy objectively? Thanks Pat Pat Farrell CyberCash, Inc. (703) 715-7834 pfarrell(a)cybercash.com #include standard.disclaimer

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