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Re: The FAGGOT list
by Dave Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> I never thought the day would come when I would actually think that, however > much I disagree with them, the pro-censorship people may have some small > arguments on their side - but that was before I saw the sort of trash you > continually spew. Such trash should be an indicator to you of your -real- position on censorship. It is said that a supporter is someone who will say anything. Perhaps this is your position on free speech...a mere supporter? I invite your response to this question. > If you have something to say that is of interest, maybe you may gain some > credibility. As it is, I won't be holding my breath, waiting for such a > reversal of form. The interest you seek is most probably only words of support for your position. Aiming at truth is always discouraged from those who do not know how to seek it. If you truly had any real interest in the anti-censorship position, you would watch your reactions to words which you yourself dislike, and attempt to understand what it feels like to want words removed from your reading selection by some other party. In this way, you would understand the pro-censorship position and therefore be in possession of enough real data to make a real decision as to which side you are on, if any. > Flames welcomed, from such fools as you obviously are. No flames from me are appropriate at this time...but...when *I* flame you, you will know you have been flamed. I haven't bestowed that honor upon anyone in years, so don't get your hopes up. > ~ Have you noticed that people who are most unwilling to accept ~ > ~ responsibility for their own actions, are the most keen to regulate ~ > ~ everyone else's? ~ Examples seem to abound on this from Dr. Vulis's selections from cypherpunks that I have seen. Granted, this is his bias I am also seeing... ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave(a)jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet Reporter (n.) - 1. A cat waiting at a mousehole.

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Re: At the risk of getting flamed :)
by Dave Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dr. Vulis writes: > Cypherpunks have been forging Usenet posts from "freedom-knights(a)jetcafe.org" > to alt.business.* et al, asking for business opps in e-mail. I'm thinking of > forwarding the resulting spam on f-k back to cypherpunks. Two things about this, to BOTH lists. As a Freedom Knight, it is my opinion that the appropriate demonstration for Freedom Knights is to ignore this junk email. This appears to be proceeding quite well, if a minor annoyance to some. However, I cannot in good conscience personally accept a "J'accuse" cypherpunks of forging Usenet posts to freedom knights. Since we have no proof of this action, it is my opinion that we must adhere to "innocent until proven guilty". I would like everyone to understand that this accusation is not shared (nor even considered until seeing the above quote) by myself, nor should it be shared by anyone who is or who calls themself a "Freedom Knight". Honor before blind support, Observation before belief, Truth before justice. Those who understand these principles will not be harmed by the net. ------ Dave Hayes - Altadena CA, USA - dave(a)jetcafe.org Freedom Knight of Usenet - http://www.jetcafe.org/~dave/usenet What we see depends on mainly what we look for.

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Igor asks what these examples prove...
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's another article from s.c.r.m where one of the moderators verbally abuses a person banned from posting in that forum (myself :-). The gratuitous abuse is totally off-topic and has no connection to the flame thread it's in. That's what the lying cocksucker John Gilmore wants to be able to do on his private mailing list - to post more lies which the victims of his libel will not be allowed to refute. ]X-SCRM-Policy: http://www.algebra.com/~ichudov/usenet/scrm/index.html ]X-SCRM-Info-1: Send submissions to scrm(a)algebra.com ]X-SCRM-Info-2: Send technical complaints to scrm-admin(a)algebra.com ]X-SCRM-Info-3: Send complaints about policy to scrm-board(a)algebra.com ]X-Comment: moderators do not necessarily agree or disagree with this article. ]X-Robomod-Version: STUMP 1.1, by ichudov(a)algebra.com (Igor Chudov) ]Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 05:27:03 CST ]From: vladimir(a)chinook.physics.utoronto.ca (Vladimir Smirnov) ]Message-ID: <199701121028.FAA06007(a)chinook.physics.utoronto.ca> ]Subject: Re: Russian diplomats are pigs ]Newsgroups: soc.culture.russian.moderated ]X-Auth: PGPMoose V1.1 PGP soc.culture.russian.moderated ] ]rqk10(a)oes.amdahl.com (Roman Kostin) wrote: ]> Po suschestvu, govorish'? Ya sejchas tebe skazhu po suschestvu. ]> ]> Tvoj kommentarij byl tsinichen, tup i beschelovechen. I kogda ]> tebe na eto ukazyvayut, tebe sleduet izvinit'sya i zatknut'sya, ]> a ne ogryzat'sya kak shavka. ] ] Narod, ja vas ubeditel'no proshu ne ustraivat' gryznju v ]moderiruemoj newsgruppe. Kommentarij u Sashi, konechno, byl ]tak sebe, no sobak na nego naveshali po polnoj programme, ]kak budto on dejstvitel'no uzh chego-to takoe skazal. ]Idi von (eto Kostinu) Dr. D.V.Ulissa popinaj, esli principial'nost' ]v golovu udarila. Ili stremno? ] ]- Smirnov ] ] ]

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Product Manager for hire.
by Geoff Klein 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com, coderpunks(a)toad.com Date: Mon Jan 13 15:45:49 1997 Product Manager with extensive experience in messaging and security is seeking a challenging position in a warm climate. For resume see: http://members.tripod.com/~geoff_cv/ - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Geoff Klein, Pronto Secure Product Manager http://www.commtouch.com, Tel: 972-9-963445 (ext 130), Fax: 972-9-961053 For my PGP public key send mail with subject: Get Key - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMto8kULv5OMYFK1FAQHChwP/a5d7lG7jD7ULMlfsh5Cfo4DsShbwuTij EB2C/8G0fvg4uGlhMDWr+q2u2R5K5laEM/a9yySn79iBpLQ+viDOphUC5vfTknbo trqggHQUhjlDYftwTAJdnBNXh/XAfGCgoPpHJ4pYOEYs+mVpsla1a9w7SFuQUb18 zKwP1hKlacI= =F8SZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Why are 1024 bit keys the limit right now?
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> I am just starting at this. I know that part of RSA/PGP's strength comes from > the size key you choose. What prevents someone from writting a 2048 bit key? > Is it because computers can't handle it? Is 1024 top of the prime number > size right now? Am I way off track? 2048 bit keys are quite commonly used but the reason that arbitrarily large keys are not good is because of the amount of time taken to generate the keys then encrypt and decrypt messages with them, PGP uses a hybrid system whereby the rsa algorithm encrypts a one time session IDEA key, a longer RSA key would result in unacceptably long waits for most users when encrypting and decrypting messages. In the end it comes down to a trade off between speed and security and 1024 bits is a sensible compromise for most uses. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Re: If guilty of a lesser crime, you can be sentenced for a greater
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:04 PM 1/9/97 -0500, Black Unicorn wrote: >On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Mark M. wrote: > ... >Sentencing enhancements: > >There is a big book called the Federal Sentencing Guidelines Handbook (or >some such). To arrive at the appropriate sentence range, you add up the >points of all the offenses the defendant was convicted of (Assume Bank >Fraud is 18 points, Murder 35 or whatever- I dont remember them offhand) >and run across a chart which has "criminal history catagory" on the >vertical axis. Where the two meet gives you the sentence range. I'm not >near my office right now, but if there is enough interest I will dig up >the current handbook and run a sample sentencing through. > >The most common one I see is "Victims helpless or infirm" which usually >boosts 2 to 5 points. > >Sentencing enhancements are not double jeapordy either. I don't see how >you can argue they are. For example, there is a provision in bank fraud >sentencing guidelines which enhances the sentence according to the size of >the loss, and I believe there is a kicker if the financial institution >folds. > >I believe the highest base offense level was "Espionage" or some such. > >There are also sentencing limiters. "Defendant displays clear remorse." >I think is one. > >Go out to a law book store and take a look at the guideline book. It's >actually a lot of fun. "Ok, say I killed my wife for her coke stash and >recruited my brother to dump the body..." > ... >> In one case, the defendant was convicted of possession of cocaine with intent >> to distribute but was found not guilty of possession of a firearm related to >> a drug charge (apparently, this is a crime). > >It's both a crime and an enhancement for most federal drug offenses. > I have seen in the paper where a person has been convicted of using a scanner in the commition of a felony. In my opinion, this is exactly how crypto would be a crime, when using it in the commission of another crime. In most cases, it seems, the scanner is used to monitor the police bands so that the criminals will have advance warning when to hide thier actions. Of course, around here, a person owning a scanner for monitoring the police and fire bands is normal. It is just one more way of gathering news. Please correct me if any of my facts are in error.

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17 Dec '03

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Re: sendmail-type thing for Windows
by Sean Roach 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:00 PM 1/10/97 -0600, Igor Chudov wrote: >Hi, > >Does anyone know of a simple program for windows that can, like >sendmail, work as a mail agent ans send mail messages from its stdin? I >am interested in sending email messages from Windoze boxes as part of >some automated process driven by .BAT files. > >i.e., what I need is a program that I could invoke like this > >DOS> sendmail some(a)address.com >From: sender(a)originator.com >To: some(a)address.com >Subject: hello > >hello > I don't know if this will help you, but, I have found that by typing win winmine.exe at the dos prompt, I am taken straight to minesweeper. The program manager window is minimized in this example. It seems that most of windows programs, when accessed from File/Run act like command line programs, this is how the File Manager can bring up a text file in the Write program. I haven't tried it, but you might try nesting arguments, for instance WIN WRITE FILE.TXT to see if it comes right up into Write, working on file.txt. I will have to get back to you on rather or not this works, but if it does, and someone has cracked the windows macro Recorder, such as what you described should be possible from a batch file.

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Crypto site move http://www.sni.net/~mpj/usa/warning.htm
by Michael Johnson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The method for accessing my strong crypto library ftp site has changed to one that I hope is easier for those of you who are in the USA or Canada. Simply point your browser to http://www.sni.net/~mpj/usa/warning.htm and follow the instructions. This should work even with text-based browsers, like lynx, and should be easier to navigate for AOL customers. You may be amused that the President of the United States has determined that cryptographic software export controls are necessary for U. S. "National Security" even though the same software is available "or appears to be available" from outside of the USA. For a partial list of cryptographic software sites outside of North America, see http://www.sni.net/~mpj/freecryp.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.7.1 iQEVAgUBMtrB/G+Iqt/O4EnZAQGUVwf7BP3gqjQ5Ur1ymToHdMs2ctf8wLmrf1mS Pw4xr5QGKYMzPP4cK1dnqXSiWI4vxOTK+/WC+ZxH1Cvxrw6+3qlKp1o005qsAAY5 AetqLP6skW7hEesT27bGzwtKBEWrnFRa3YLc6vC+opu78Kz9myAQPdPcQ0tuI8mI +eD0EIiBVWEoWyvxuvW/vN/6bsqLsXZswGVV2+i3kv4HmOEBMVPwzounoA3P7L73 b7wLxiJvbIF3fld9Dcyy577U+pJ/qhXla8yss/Vs9Wmfc7id7GtVoJtrcQ7qqxm2 JiRn7W1A2YIvNQqMizUxOnoGnazkp6rMBCYvV6wTb2MCbQ8U/BLBGw== =X33F -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: IMDMP: SOURCE CODE RELEASE ANNOUNCEMENT
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Comment: "What do you mean by 'extensive research'." > Reply: Benchmark tests. Source code comparisons. Documentations of other > algorithms. "Applied Cryptography". So you have read applied cryptography and decided that qualifies you as a cryptographer? > Comment: "I've never even heard of IMDMP before. Is this a joke?" > Reply: UDCM (IMDMP) came out January 1st, 1997. How do you think successful > companies start anyway, with millions of dollars upfront? DataET Research is > a relatively new company. No new company should be dabbling with new algorithms, an assurance of a high probability of security comes with years of attempted cryptanalysis. > Comment: "What kind of industry standard is IMDMP above?" > Reply: 128-bit encryption. Average DES is 128. PGP tops 1024. IDEA goes at > 128. RSA the same. Full security IMDMP is 2048-bit. Any other questions? This is irrelevant rubbish, if there is a cryptanalytic attack on your algorithm a brute force attack becomes unecessary and key size is not of consequence. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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