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ip: Freeh: Kiddie Porn was Encrypted (fwd)
by Rev. Ben 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: sobel(a)epic.org (David L. Sobel) In an address at the International Cryptography Institute conference in Washington today, FBI Director Louis Freeh revealed that the Bureau encountered encrypted material during the course of its "Innocent Images" investigation. That operation recently led to dozens of nationwide arrests for alleged trafficking in child pornography via America Online. Freeh also disclosed that encrypted files were found during the course of a terrorism investigation in the Philippines involving an alleged plot to bomb a U.S. airliner and assassinate Pope John Paul II. The FBI Director characterized encryption as a "public safety" issue and stated that the FBI and law enforcement agencies around the world "will not tolerate" a situation in which the wide availability of encryption may impede those agencies' "public safety functions." While noting that the current U.S. government policy is to encourage the "voluntary" adoption of key-escrowed encryption techniques, Freeh raised the specter of a mandated "solution." Freeh stressed that the FBI "prefers" a "voluntary approach," but likened the encryption issue to last year's Digital Telephony debate, where the FBI first attempted to achieve voluntary compliance but eventually sought and obtained a legislative mandate to assure law enforcement access to digital communications. Freeh indicated that "if consensus is impossible" on the encryption issue, the FBI "may consider other approaches." Following his prepared address, Freeh was asked why the FBI needs key-escrow when it has apparently been successful in decrypting information encountered in the cited investigations. His response to this question was somewhat vague, leaving unanswered the question of whether or not the Bureau was, in fact, able to decrypt the encrypted files seized in the "Innocent Images" investigation. More information on this point is likely to emerge as these cases come to trial. Davis Sobel Legal Counsel Electronic Privacy Information Center http://www.epic.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Auto-signed with Bryce's Auto-PGP v1.0beta3 iQB1AwUBMGMxs75ALmeTVXAJAQE+8gL/SYfKkwRCROh5jPW/WmhHfpjze4u1W32H iA7jwFUilD1kawEzngqtmQoTwjYnpD8ShwDIIgmYnCNMwf4wYdm8FNZGvzenj/jx 8a20Xhw/aqLRL/qum/gMHTnhlEMTMlha =4U03 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Netscape to end Linux support?
by bret＠bjohns.win.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

What? Who can i call at Netscape? I have not gotten a recent version to work with 1.2.8.. >> >> And the sad part is that now that they have announced that they are >> dropping their unofficial Linux support, I really want to hurt >> Netscape badly. >> >> Sigh. >> >Anyone got a pointer to this announcement? > >Damn! Just when I was starting to like them ... > >-- >Jeff Simmons jsimmons(a)goblin.punk.net >

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2 new MixMasters
by John Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Netscape sub rosa?
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:30 AM 9/21/95, Matthias Jordan wrote: >Hello, Tim! > >> Gee, where's that "Cypherpunks logo" when you really need it? >> >> A rose covering the Netscape "N" logo? A crypto eagle swooping down and >> pecking at weak keys? > >How about an anarchism-A (an A in i circle) whith the circle not >being totally closed thus describing a C? That was actually done by someone in Monte Carlo when I was giving a talk on crypto anarchy. Somebody drew in this anarchy-in-a-C on an announcement of my talk. I still have this. ObCypherpunks Relevance: This is "coding in C," isn't it? --Tim May BTW, to set the record straight, my "Gee, where's that "Cypherpunks logo" when your really need it?" was tongue-in-cheek (a kind of irony, for you foreigners). Notice: Don't expect me to reply to trivial questions and complaints. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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RE: RNG Resource FAQ (was Re: "random" number seeds vs. Netscape)
by David Van Wie 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Perry Metzger writes: # You might want to read RFC 1750, Phil Karlton writes: > Did that. It talks about a lot of the pitfalls. Unfortunately it does not > address (nor can it realistically be expected to address) details of what > to look for on a particular version of an OS running on some particular > platform. Can someone point me to a compilation of such information ? If not, I'm definitely interested in starting a Web page to chronicle recommendations about good, bad, and questionable random and pseudo-random sources for specific architectures and operating systems. (It could also include information on special-purpose plug-in hardware RNGs.) -Futplex <futplex(a)pseudonym.com> Having overcome my initial skepticism on the entire topic of entropy, based on the useful pointers to the literature I have received, I agree wholeheartedly with the need for _positive_ design criteria against which designs may be evaluated. For initial consideration, I recommend the following: The entropy E is defined by the sum across n states of -P_i log_2(P_i), where i ranges from 1 to n, and P_i is the probability of state i. In order for this expression to have meaning, the all four criteria of the following must be met: 1) The states exist and can be identified. 2) The number of states n is known. 3) The index value i uniquely identifies a state. 4) The function P_i is known and well-behaved. The designer should disprove the negative of each of these to arrive at a _concise_ statement of their "proof" of measured entropy equating to predicted entropy. For example, the designer should "disprove" the statements: "The states do not exist. Even if the states exist, they cannot be identified." by clearly stating the factors that lead to the existence of the states, and precisely why they can be identified. This provides a list of requirements (in effect) for a deployment to meet the expected entropy. I think that application of these criteria can rigorously explain the difficulties in using mouse movements, for example, as a source of entropy. In addition, the problems with clocks in PC emulations on Macs also speak to these criteria. Certainly the entropy available from pid is also explained here in a rigorous way. I would appreciate feedback on this as a foundation for a set of _positive_ design criteria for sources of entropy. If I have missed information in the literature that provides design guidance (not anecdotal pitfalls, which are very valuable but lack rigor in the cases I have seen), I would very much appreciate that as well. A special thanks to Tim May for his references. dvw

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Re: Pitfall in producing random numbers
by crocker＠cybercash.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:20 AM 9/22/95, Norman Hardy wrote: >The virtual PC clock proceeded forward by very predictable >manner. Perhaps the details were different but the nature of the pitfall is >clear. I did not notice that pitfall mentioned in RFC 1750. (Its the only >hazard that I know of that they missed.) Neat! I often talk about what happens if inter-keystroke timingis used but the program is driven by a script. In essence, running a program under simulation amounts to running the clock under a script. Next version. Thanks, Steve -------------------- Steve Crocker Main: +1 703 620 4200 CyberCash, Inc., Suite 430 Desk: +1 703 716 5214 2100 Reston Parkway Fax: +1 703 620 4215 Reston, VA 22091 crocker(a)cybercash.com

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"Going after Netscape"
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:37 AM 9/23/95, Jim Ray wrote: >I'm with Lucky, let's go after Netscape itself. They deserve it more >than their customers do, and they would then have a strong motivation ><evil grin> to fix it. The press release would then *only* involve >Netscape, and maybe a few C-punks could buy a few Netscape puts ;) >and donate the bucks made for something like Tim's stable remailer. I think we need to be very careful not to do things like we have a vendetta against Netscape. Netscape has a Cypherpunks presence, of course, and His Andreeseeness was even on the list for a while last December. Today's "San Jose Mercury News" had a photo of Goldberg and Wagner and a fairly long article about how James Barksdale, Pres. of Netscape, plans to hire them to help improve Netscape's security. He even made noises about thanking them for their cracking efforts, and said improving Netscape's security is a high priority. It's sort of hard for me to imagine a company being more "Cypherpunks friendly" than this. (I mean about the issues that interest us.) So, keep on "attacking" Netscape (kudos to Ray, by the way, though I've seen Netscape bomb on certain sites, as with the Cypherpunks archive site, as several of us noted a few months ago...probably a different problem, but indicative that Netscape can be corrupted). But let's be careful not to convey any flavor of this being a vendetta. --Tim May Notice: Don't expect me to reply to trivial questions and complaints. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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More on "Entropy"
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:46 PM 9/22/95, David Van Wie wrote: >Having overcome my initial skepticism on the entire topic of entropy, based >on the useful pointers to the literature I have received, I agree >wholeheartedly with the need for _positive_ design criteria against which >designs may be evaluated. For initial consideration, I recommend the >following: > >The entropy E is defined by the sum across n states of -P_i log_2(P_i), Hah! Another physicist converted to the information-theoretic view of entropy! I should've pointed out in my reading list that several names stand out in this interpretation: - Charles Bennett - Rolf Landauer - John Wheeler Just so you know. ObNetscapeHack: None. --Tim May Notice: Don't expect me to reply to trivial questions and complaints. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders are just speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Notes security question
by herbs＠interlog.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

While I'm at it, here's a question I've been wondering about recently: Why is it I've never heard of any security issues with Lotus Notes? Are there no known weaknesses? Or did existing weaknesses just not get much press because Notes isn't a commercially visible consumer product like Netscape? Herb ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Herb Sutter 2228 Urwin, Suite 102 voice (416) 618-0184 Connected Object Solutions Oakville ON Canada L6L 2T2 fax (905) 847-6019

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Re: POTP gets good press
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Robert "Bob" Harvey once hung out at BBN. Maybe he is the one who seeks slick-kill ripoff with aptly snake-oily-named Internet Security Corp., which may be telephoned at 617-863-6400. POTP was pummeled last fall on c'punks. For the latest lubrications see: URL: http://www.elementrix.co.il/home.html Audacious marketing, these NatSec privatizing firms, and the log-rollers for USMA and SAIC, preaching dire threats, promising if-you-knew-what-we-knew security, info-warrioring fundamentalism.

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