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Re: "Suspected of purchasing diesel fuel"
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Toto <toto(a)sk.sympatico.ca> writes: > Igor Chudov @ home wrote: > > > > Toto wrote: > > > Who is the janitor at the Japenese embassy in New York City? > > > What is the postal code of Mule Shoe, Texas? > > > Who is buried in Grant's Tomb? > > > > Grant? > > One out of three gets you a green card, Igor. Look up the postal code > for Muleshoe, Texas, and you get a citizenship card. > If you can name the janitor at the Japanese embassy, however, you'll > probably be indicted for espionage. It's unnatural to be a U.S. citizen because most people aren't. I used to walk my dogs by Grant's tomb. --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Electronic Cash
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Thu, 27 Feb 97 18:16:03 EST From: weffross(a)counsel.com (Walter A Effross -- American Univ. - Washington ) To: rah(a)shipwright.com Subject: Electronic Cash To: rah(a)shipwright.com Inet Robert, I thought that you and the members of your group would be interested in this Symposium. Please feel free to send the information around to whatever listservs you think appropriate. Thanks! Walter THE ELECTRONIC FUTURE OF CASH - A SYMPOSIUM The Washington College of Law and the American University Law Review are proud to announce a full-day Symposium on the Electronic Future of Cash, to be held at the law school in Washington, DC on Friday, April 18, 1997 in connection with the publication of a special Symposium issue of the Law Review on this topic. The first panel, "The Technology of Electronic Cash," will include: Newsweek columnist Steven Levy; Cybercash General Counsel Russ Stevenson; Peter Wayner, author of Digital Cash: Commerce on the Internet; Gary Lorenz, General Manager of the Diebold Campus Systems Division; and a representative (invited) of the National Security Agency. This panel will examine the operation of stored value cards and encryption techniques and will include a demonstration of a "cyberpayment" made online with digital cash. The second panel, "Commentary on the Regulation of Electronic Cash," brings together the authors of articles in the Symposium issue (provided, with additional materials, to all registrants) to review and recommend regulatory efforts from the viewpoints of academics, practitioners, bankers, and consumer advocates. Panelists include: Professor Mark Budnitz, Georgia State University College of Law; Richard Field, Chair of the Electronic Commerce Payment Committee of the American Bar Association; Professor Egon Guttman, Washington College of Law; Professor David Oedel, Mercer University Law School; Simon Lelieveldt, Senior Policy Advisor, Payment Systems Policy Department, De Nederlandsche Bank (the Dutch Central Bank); and Brian Smith of Mayer, Brown & Platt. Dr. David Chaum, the founder and president of DigiCash, has been invited to give a luncheon address. The third panel, "The Perspectives of the Regulators," includes: Thomas Baxter, Jr., General Counsel of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York; William Kroener, General Counsel of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation; Michael Billsma, Acting Director, Community and Consumer Law, Office of the Comptroller of the Currency; Stephen Kroll, Legal Counsel, Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN), United States Treasury Department; Scott Charney, Chief, Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section, Criminal Justice Division, Department of Justice; John Lopez, Counsel, Subcommittee on Domestic and International Monetary Policy; Paul Glenn, Special Counsel, Office of Thrift Supervision; and Lucy Morris, Assistant Director for Credit Practices, Federal Trade Commission. A reception will follow. Registration fees (including lunch) are: $150 for preregistrants; $175 for registration at the door; $100 for Washington College of Law alumni; $80 for judges, law clerks, and government employees; and $40 for full-time academics. Please register early, as space may be limited. For a registration form and more information, please contact Professor Walter Effross, the Symposium's organizer and panel moderator, at (202) 274-4017, see our Symposium website at http://www.wcl.american.edu/pub/journals/lawrev/electronic_cash/con f.htm, or email: futurecash(a)wcl.american.edu. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "Never attribute to conspiracy what can be explained by stupidity." -- Jerry Pournelle The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/rah/ FC97: Anguilla, anyone? http://www.ai/fc97/

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Try It Before You Buy It!
by Andy Barber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Pro-CODE Crypto Bill
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Alan Olsen wrote: > At 12:47 PM 3/2/97 -0500, John Young wrote: > >We've put the new Senate Pro-CODE encryption bill at: > > http://jya.com/s377.htm (23K) > There is an interesting addition to the bill that I have not seen discussed > here yet. The pro-code bill has added an "Information Security Board". This > provision worries me. It sound like a nice little rubber hose committee. > ("The House Committee on Unamerican Encryption"?) > Any opinions on this new development? As long as Senator Charlie McCarthy is heading the committee, then I can't foresee any problems. (But, for the record, I do not know Alan Olsen, and have never been associated with him personally, or member of any group with which he is associated.) Excuse me, I hear a pounding on the door... -- Toto ----------------------------- "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix/xenbody.html

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DES Challenge / Who'da Thunk It?
by Toto 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It seems that all of the efforts to meet the DES Challenge are being sabotaged on one level or another. The des-challenge(a)muffin.org group have never been able to fly on more than one wing. The New Media Laboratories effort has been plagued by rogue clients and its participants being subjected to varieties of interference/trojan-horses. Peter Trei's software has been appearing on international servers, with bugs which don't match those in the original source code. Pointers to BryDES software have turned out to be misdirected, in many cases. I suspect that if the 'New Coke' had hired RSA's people, that we would all be drinking their 'imitation Pepsi' product, instead of 'Classic Coke', as God intended us to do. Crayola had the foresight to call upon RSA's expertise, and, as a result, the wool was pulled over the public's eyes and they came to accept the 'new' colors, even though they are part of the 'plot' against the Visual Illuminatti. Perhaps these new revelations will lead to people taking my posts to this list more seriously in the future. -- Toto ----------------------------- "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix/xenbody.html

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Re: Pro-CODE Bill
by E. Allen Smith 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The following provision also causes me some doubts about exactly what will be allowed for export: (B) Exception.--The Secretary shall prohibit the export or reexport of particular software and computer hardware described in this subsection to an identified individual or organization in a specific foreign country if the Secretary determines that there is substantial evidence that such software and computer hardware will be-- (iv) intentionally used to evade enforcement of United States law or taxation by the United States or by any State or local government. which could be construed to cover anonymous remailers, fully anonymous digital cash, anything set up to verify gambling fairness, and various other things of interest to Cypherpunks (including the use of PGP by, say, a drug "kingpin"). Admittedly, the "identified individual or organization in a specific foreign country" will help in limiting this application. -Allen

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Re: DES Challenge / Who'da Thunk It?
by Cynthia H. Brown 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Mon, 3 Mar 1997, Sean Roach wrote: > At 02:36 PM 3/3/97 +0100, James Morris wrote: > ... > >Actually, there's a theory that the secret recipies for Coke, Pepsi and > >Kentucky Fried Chicken are part of a biological chinese lottery, where > >the results are collected via satellite-based spectrometry of atmospheric > >methane radicals. Note that children who are too young for these foods > >will quite happily eat Crayola. > > > >More than this I cannot say. > > You might be interested to know that Pepsi owns Kentucky Fried Chicken. > Take a look at the supply trucks some time, Taco Bell, Hot & Now (whatever > that is), Kentucky Fried Chicken, and Pizza Hut are all Pepsico subsidaries. > I'd say that the chips are weighted heavily on one side. Hope you know > which numbers to bet on. I'd lay my $ on the suppliers of red dye #3, yellow dye #7, etc., and get Pepsi, Coke and Crayola fanciers all at once. Cynthia =============================================================== Cynthia H. Brown, P.Eng. E-mail: cynthb(a)iosphere.net | PGP Key: See Home Page Home Page: http://www.iosphere.net/~cynthb/ Junk mail will be ignored in the order in which it is received. Klein bottle for rent; enquire within.

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NSA Sued by Cryptographer
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We've received from Anonymous a copy of a February 28, 1997, complaint against NSA by an ex-Sandia cryptographer: http://jya.com/nsasuit.txt (41K) The cryptographer, William Payne, was: project leader for the Missile Secure Cryptographic Unit [MSCU] at Sandia between about 1982 and 1986. The MSCU was funded by NSA. Payne designed and built the hardware/software data authenticator for the US/USSR Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty for Sandia between 1986 and 1992. Payne held SECRET clearance when Payne worked for the Navy, DOE Q clearance, crypto and SCI access while at Sandia. The document says that Payne was a source for the Baltimore Sun story on NSA's "spiking" deal with CryptoAG*, and other stories, after he was fired in 1992 for attacking the quality of NSA's cryptography. It includes descriptions of agreements between Sandia and NSA, algorithms, critiques and procedures. A sample: Payne revealed to the public the value 31. "The algorithm required stepping two of its internal registers at a rate many times the data rate." NSA believes that 31 is classified. Payne believes that this is classification abuse. Therefore, Payne issued a FOIA to NSA crypto-mathematician Brian Snow also on June 10, 1996. I found no evidence that NSA possesses any special crypto skills, and apparently hides its deficiencies behind the veil of classification abuse. To the contrary, I discovered generic deficient crypto work. We brought this to the attention of NSA. Sandia even offered to help NSA fix its deficient crypto work. And NSA attempted to correct its deficient crypto work. Therefore, under 5 USC 522b I request access all technical documentation on, 1 Benincasa's original NSS/USO algorithm, 2 Benincasa's revision of 1, 3 The Unkenholtz - Judy GRANITE algorithm, 4 Your MSCU algorithm, 5 the clipper algorithm, 6 the STU III algorithms. I feel that published analyses of the above 6 algorithms will show the Clinton administration, congress, and the public that NSA possess no superior knowledge of crypto matters. Payne received no response from NSA. ---------- * "Cryptographic units were 'spiked' so that the crypto key was transmitted ['covert channel'] with the cipher text." For more on the CryptoAG story see: http://jya.com/cryptoa2.htm

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2-way anonymous ecash ?
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Peter Foldiak <Peter.Foldiak(a)st-andrews.ac.uk> Newsgroups: sci.crypt On http://www.digicash.com/ecash/aboutcrime.html Digicash says: "... ecash is not at all well suited for black markets, extortion, bribes and tax evasion. The reason is that only the payer is anonymous, the recipient of the money has no anonymity at all. Furthermore, all money that the payee receives must be given to the bank. It is not possible to hide from the bank the fact that you received money (and thereby hide it from the authorities). So tax-evasion is definitely out. For people who operate black markets the same story holds. First of all, their income is visible. The second reason is far better: if any of the customers ever wants to, he can prove that a certain payment was made by him. This means that a criminal accepting ecash can be identified with the retroactive help one of his customers. ..." Is this really true under all circumstances? Can (some kind of) e-cash be made truly two-way anonymous, like physical cash?

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Re: Presidential decrees and emergency powers
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>We've put the full 50USC Chapter 35 -- International Emergency Economic >Powers at: > > http://jya.com/50usc35.txt (284K) Thanks. This contains (among other things) the interesting Executive Order: >Continuation of National Emergency Declared by Ex. Ord. No. 12924 > >Notice of President of the United States, dated Aug. 15, 1995, 60 F.R. 42767, >provided: > >On August 19, 1994, consistent with the authority provided me under the >International Emergency Economic Powers Act (50 U.S.C. 1701 et seq.), I >issued Executive Order No. 12924 [set out above]. In that order, I declared a >national emergency with respect to the unusual and extraordinary threat to >the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States in >light of the expiration of the Export Administration Act of 1979, as amended >(50 U.S.C. 2401 et seq.). Because the Export Administration Act has not been >renewed by the Congress, the national emergency declared on August 19, 1994, >must continue in effect beyond August 19, 1995. Therefore, in accordance with >section 202(d) of the National Emergencies Act (50 U.S.C. 1622(d)), I am >continuing the national emergency declared in Executive Order No. 12924. So the fact that Congress won't continue a law is justification for declaring an emergency which is justification for continuing it by presidential decree instead. Scary. Unfortunately it doesn't list all the earlier, expired decrees which would show what was originally used to start this thing off ("... the unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security, foreign policy, and economy of the United States in light of the British army currently marching on Washington" perhaps?) Peter.

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