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Increasing subscriber base (fwd)
by szabo＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cypherpunks, Enclosed below is a call for help. imp-interest deals with Internet commercial protocols, with special interest in secure billing. The future of cypherpunks' goals, most obviously digital cash but also much of the rest of our varied agenda, ranging from privacy to freedom on the net, is deeply tied in with what direction the emerging world of Internet commerce chooses to pursue. Will these businesses move us towards a world of freedom and privacy on the net, or a world in which our credit card numbers and IDs will be tracked to "ensure accountability", and our every purchase and data access on the commercial Net tied to our True Names to build lucrative marketing databases and fodder for future snoops? Contrariwise, what insights can those pursuing the everyday practicum of net.business contribute to the cypherpunks vision? It would be a tremendous advance, I daresay more important than stopping Clipper (important as that task is), to get Internet commerce on board with the commercial privacy-enhancing protocols of Chaum et. al. -- digital cash, DC-nets, per-organization pseudonyms with transferable credentials, etc. And contrariwise, to invigorate those protocols with doses of practical, real-world business considerations. Those of us with an interest in promoting free and private Internet commerce, and motivation to pursue this, I urge you to get deeply involved in the "imp" movement. Nick Szabo szabo(a)netcom.com Forwarded message: Date: Sun, 31 Oct 93 22:00:54 PST From: ptrubey(a)shl.com (Phil Trubey) Message-Id: <9311010600.AA25672(a)technet1.shl.com> Subject: Increasing subscriber base No offence meant to anyone subscribed to this mailing list, but this mailing list does not seem to have enough of a critcal mass of interested people to ensure a good level of dicussion and the ability for collaborative work. I am suggesting that we advertise the existence of this list to a selected few other mailing lists and newsgroups to increase awareness and participation. If there are no violent objections I can send out a short note to cypherpunks, com-priv, the Internet List of Lists. .... Phil Trubey | Internet: ptrubey(a)shl.com Systemhouse Inc. | Voice: 310-809-5491 | Fax: 310-860-9668

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BOOK: Learning Perl
by walter kehowski 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Extropians and Cypherpunks: O'Reilly&Assoc. has a new book out, "Learning Perl" (ISBN 1-56592-042-2, price $24.95). I have back-ordered it. O'Reilly&Assoc. can be contacted at: PHONE: 800-998-9938 FAX: 707-829-0104 MAILING ADDRESS: O'Reilly&Assoc., 103 Morris St., Suite A, Sebastopol, CA, 95472 Walter, wak(a)next0.math.pitt.edu

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Secure Phone Progress (fwd)
by mikeingl＠news.delphi.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Path: news.delphi.com!noc.near.net!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!caen!usenet.cis.ufl.edu!usenet.ufl.edu!travis.csd.harris.com!amber!tom >From: tom(a)ssd.csd.harris.com (Tom Horsley) >Newsgroups: sci.crypt,talk.politics.crypto >Subject: New IBM soundcard and secure phones >Date: 28 Oct 1993 11:55:54 GMT >Organization: Harris Computer Systems Division >Lines: 24 >Message-ID: <TOM.93Oct28075554(a)amber.ssd.csd.harris.com> >NNTP-Posting-Host: amber.ssd.csd.harris.com >Xref: news.delphi.com sci.crypt:13815 talk.politics.crypto:983 Over in the comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard group there have been a couple of brief mentions of the new "Windsurfer" card from IBM. It apparently incorporates a couple of DSP chips, a 14.4K modem, a soundblaster emulator, general midi, kitchen sink, etc :-). I don't know if these DSP chips will be user programmable or not, but if so, this sounds like the one board you need to build your very own secure phone. The 14.4K modem for sending the data, the DSP chips for audio compression, and the sound board for digitizing speach and playing it back. Throw in a little private key exchange via RSA or equivalent at the start of the connection, and use triple DES or IDEA on the data (of course, the person at the other end needs the same setup). Does anyone have any more details on this board (like, will it be user programmable, and will the specs be available for less than your firstborn child :-)? -- ====================================================================== domain: tahorsley(a)csd.harris.com USMail: Tom Horsley +=============================================+511 Kingbird Circle Don't have awk? Use this simple sh emulation: |Delray Beach, FL 33444 #!/bin/sh +======================+ echo 'Awk bailing out!' exit 2

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Bernstein hearing, Nov 8 CANCELED!
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Judge Patel has decided that she already knows enough, based on the papers submitted by both sides, to decide our motion for a preliminary injunction to protect Dan Bernstein as he teaches a class on cryptography in January. She also says that she will decide our motion for partial summary judgement (from the September 20th hearing) at the same time. So, THERE WILL BE NO HEARING ON NOVEMBER 8TH! DON'T COME, WE WON'T BE THERE. Apologies for the short notice. It's all the notice the legal team got. I'll let you know as soon as she releases her decision. John Gilmore

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[PRIVACY][BLACKNET] Potential Analyst?
by Brian D Williams 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Dimitri Vulis >#4k Burns St, Forest Hills,NY 11375-3506 >(718)261-6839 >Source: http://www.yahoo.com (Four11 people search) >Birthday: December 29 >Source: http://www.boutell.com/birthday.cgi/december/29 >D&M Consulting Services (DM-DOM) > 67-67 Burns Street > Forest Hills, NY 11375 > Domain Name: DM.COM > Administrative Contact: > Administration, PSINet Domain (PDA4) >psinet-domain-admin(a)PSI.COM > (703) 904-4100 > Technical Contact, Zone Contact: > Network Information and Support Center (PSI-NISC) >hostinfo(a)psi.com > (518) 283-8860 > Record last updated on 31-Oct-96. > Record created on 19-Jun-91. > Domain servers in listed order: > NS.PSI.NET 192.33.4.10 > NS2.PSI.NET 38.8.50.2 > Source: InterNIC The Pro's say that analysts are born not made. If so whoever wrote this appears to show potential..... Send resume to BLACKNET..... ;) Brian

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Anonymous vs false IDs
by kovar＠NDA.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

There is a lot of effort being put into creating tools to mask identities. I'm curious why people don't go a different route - creating a false electronic identity? If you have control over your own system, it is easy enough to create an account. Lacking that, there are a lot of companies out there offering low cost accounts on Unix systems with full Internet access. Why not get an account in a different name rather than using anonymous remailers? I can see some reasons for going both routes, I'm just curious as to other people's reasons. -David

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Re: ON THE ROAD TO NOSINESS...
by jim＠chiba.Tadpole.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> There is a similar system in Paris, if I remember correctly. Yes, and Germany. There may be others. They (the big 'they') tried this in Nevada several years ago, but stopped after about 6 months. It seems that the last picture a number of these units took was of a pickup truck, license plate masked off, both driver and passenger wearing ski masks, with the passenger weilding a baseball bat. I guess it was pretty expensive. ;-) The ACLU was, at some point, challenging the practice of un-manned units beaming radar at every car on the road, taking pictures of those that were 'speeding'. Jim (who stands corrected, its 'CELP'.)

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Re: ON THE ROAD TO NOSINESS...
by GRABOW_GEOFFREY＠tandem.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> There is a similar system in Paris, if I remember correctly. > Yes, and Germany. There may be others. Yes, there are others. Six of these camera systems were installed in Manhattan, and they have been rumored to have issued more than 250 tickets per week each!!! I guess that this means that cops will now have more time to do other things. (Nab bad guys, eat donuts, etc...)

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Reposting to FidoNews
by Stanton McCandlish 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Not a good idea. The material from Mike was pretty good, but whoever did that also forwarded some solidly afactual material from P.Metzger pretending to be a telecom lawyer. There's no telling how many sysops are going around thinking they are common carriers now, and who are utterly mistaken. This may take quite a bit of doing to clean up. A better tactic would be to write an article, then pass it on to people that know what they are talking about for some editorial review, THEN send it to the Snooze. <No offense meant to Perry; he knows plenty about some things, but an attorney he ain't. :> -- -=> mech(a)eff.org <=- Stanton McCandlish Electronic Frontier Foundation Online Activist & SysOp "A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood of ideas in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." -JFK NitV-DC BBS 202-232-2715, Fido 1:109/? IndraNet 369:111/1, 14.4V32b 16.8ZyX Join EFF! For more information about membership, send mail to eff(a)eff.org

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