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Re: modem taps/caller id
by Matthew J Miszewski 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It is my understanding that the *67(9) feature does not stop the actual sending of your number to the switch but rather stops the data from being transmitted from the switch to the end user (actually sends a 'P' I believe.) --Matt ______________________________________________________________________________ In defense of liberty, encrypt for all purposes, civil and professional. In defense of privacy, encrypt all correspondence, personal and professional. In defense of sanity, do not encrypt your dry cleaning invoice! ++++++++--------mjmiski(a)macc.wisc.edu (c)1993

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some pseudopool FUN
by L. Detweiler 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

S.Boxx: > <sigh> nobody is interested in preventing pseudospoofing here. the > people who have most maneuvered themselves into a position to aid > future cyberspace are instead constraining it. that's the point, isn't > it? gosh, how could I have been so blind... T.C.May: >I think its because we don't see pseudospoofing as a "danger" like you >do. Personally, I consider it a necessity. I like being able to hide >behind an anonymous identity (not that I do, mind you). I don't see >pseudospoofing as "constraining". On the contrary, I see it as >freeing us. E.Hughes, on Pseudospoofing software >No the software isn't mine, but I consider myself it's God Father. >Tim May and I were talking about this a long >time, and he just beat me to learning enough PERL to write the thing. >But I'd like to think that the two of us did most all of the design of >it. So, in a way, it is my software. Nick Szabo: >As an example, look at Ender's Game, where Ender's brother and sister >get on the net under pseudonyms, and get treated just like everyone >else. There is no biases. People are judged on their actions and >words, not by who they are, how old they are, what they look like, or >anything like that. Maybe you are blind, I don't know. I've never >met you. Arthur Chandler: >And, as I said, it is not the job of the Keyserver to provide any sort >of policy. The job of the Keyserver is to distribute keys. Nothing >more. Nothing less. The job of identifying True Names is solely a >job for Digital Signatures, not a job for the Keyserver. Jamie Dinkelacker: >I oppose using it in a bogus fashion because the software is not >designed for such a use, there is absolutely no protection for it (any >key can be added), because I, and all the other Keyserver admins, >believe that all the keyservers should be interconnected, and because >I feel the job for determining a True Name on a key is a job for >Digital Signatures, not for the Keyserver. Perry Metzger: >I am a cypherpunk. I don't believe in trusting something on faith >alone, but you seem to be asking for that. There is no way to protect >such a reckless use of the Keyserver. The only way to provide a >secure way for True Names is to Cryptographically identify them. Hal Finney: >So, Mr. Detweiler, why do you oppose using Digital Signatures to >verify True Names? I mean, besides that you consider yourself a >Cypherpunk? ;-)

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Key Servers
by an41418＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I don't see what you mean by key servers for only true names. How do you know that a true name isn't just a false identity created with a real account on some system? How do you differentiate a true name from a unix account? Wonderer -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3 iQBVAgUBLOeQFx1kTJuroDD9AQFxbQH/f7Y4uj4xn2eeWFoTmu8Aahp2FxG+7ShV uAvvRpUWkE2Ay9MdB4lKCSjNv5cO92DwbcWRoZgbI7hPJGAe7za37A== =IBrC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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Very useful lines
by Sameer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Er, make that *one* line: # ~/.elm/filter-rules: from = "ld231782" ? save /home/sameer/mail/larry Let's keep the noise down, and ignore Detweiler, OK? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLOn0bHi7eNFdXppdAQHLrwP+JkmQqaXegL/iINsGya3DtdUBslIcVBQ/ loQfCnEe+XsUvXc0sdPzFE9+0yTbhKWeOv0XWtGdH3xcMEsI8XPFknvIFlld/elG t8yywYeLsii4tL32gV3N2DeaTV7UQOkFIG1EuJvlfYMLyS9130NazTpmD2RO8noa P2uIbdd3Fqo= =CfKt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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The Crypto Anarchist Manifesto
by an12070＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Psychopunks of the World, Several of you at the "physical Psychopunks" conspiracy yesterday in Silicon Valley requested that more of the material passed out in meetings be available electronically to the entire readership of the Psychopunks list, heroes, exorcists, and all. <Gulp> Here's the "Crypto Anarchist Manifesto" I read at the September 1992 founding meeting. It dates back to mid-1988 and was distributed to some like-minded criminals at the "Crypto '88" conference and then again at the "Hackers Conference" that year. I later gave talks at Hackers on this in 1989 and 1990. There are a few things I'd change, but for historical reasons I'll just leave it as is. Some of the terms may be unfamiliar to you...I hope the Crypto Glossary I just distributed will help. (This should explain all those cryptic terms in my .signature!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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The Tectonics of Truth
by an12070＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Truth is sometimes subtle and delicate, like a flower petal. Sometimes it erupts in violence, like a volcano. * * * I am feeble and weak. I was standing in a room filled with many diverse instruments. The noise was a great cacaphony. I had an adjustable tuning fork. I gently changed the pitch so that it matched individual instruments in the `audience' and matched their pitch. Then, I gently changed the frequency, and they changed accordingly. Next I changed entire groups of instruments at a time, and the cacaphony decreased. Some instruments were extremely tenacious, like the drums, that continued to bang around ignorantly and arrogantly. At last, all the instruments were in a single tone. Om. * * * S. Boxx is a giant with great strength. He came into a room filled with many diverse instruments. The noise was a great cacaphony. He had massive muscles. He jumped to a great height and shook the whole room, so that many individual instruments were shaken from their place. Then he yelled loudly, and many others shook with the violence. Some instruments were broken, like the delicate strings, and they were flayed and useless. After awhile, the whole room resonated in a single tone. Truth. * * * Sometimes, the Truth is like plate tectonics. The lies and obfuscations promote the intense heat and friction at the plate's interface. For long periods there is no apparent motion, only tiny jerks and slips, with the gradual and subtle shifts in opinion. Sometimes, however, a massive stress is released and a gigantic earthquake ensues, shaking many and killing some with falling debris. The shock waves are felt in far distant places. People remember the calamitous disaster for many years afterwards. It reverberates through the media and everyone's consciences. It inevitably leads to reforms in the structures of buildings to resist the deadly force -- and a bit of future paranoia by everyone. Recently, there was a earthquake on the scale of 10 in California. It was documented in RISKS 15.25. The aftershocks and tremors are still being felt. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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Tech: Truth about Canon Copiers (fwd)
by rees＠cs.bu.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > It copied the side with the dead white guy fine. We flipped it over > and copied the other side. It printed a deeply altered image. > /hawk > > > -- > Harry S. Hawk - Extropian > habs(a)extropy.org > In Service to Extropians since 1991 This is interesting. Since most of the change-making machines in laundromats seem to use the side with the dead white guy, I wonder if it would work to use this copy? ----Dave REes (rees(a)cs.bu.edu)

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privacy
by Black Unicorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Stanton McCandlish <mech(a)eff.org> : I gracefully concede about 90% of the points made against mine in this thread; -> No, don't do that: Your points made me think real hard about some issues I hadn't yet considered fully. <- As the 10% remaining have nothing to do with crypto, I'm replying to them in personal mail. -> It might be that this thread belongs in mail in general. Cypherpunks is a technical group after all no...? <- -- Stanton McCandlish mech(a)eff.org 1:109/1103 EFF Online Activist & SysOp [...] -uni- (Dark)

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Re: Key Servers
by an41418＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- L.D. writes: > Wonderer is a D.Denning admirer. Was it Wonderer who Wondered about > what would happen if someone found a way to thwart PGP and read > everyone's mail on the sly? Reminds me of Medusa never telling anyone of her S > nakes. I have been proud to be able to keep out of the fight with L.D., but this is a personal accusation. I'll just deny that I am a Dorothy Denning admirer and leave it at that. I also never wondered, on the list, if someone found a way to thwart PGP and read everyone's mail on the sly, but what of it, that is something to consider if we want to rely on it for privacy. Wonderer -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3 iQBVAgUBLOpeZh1kTJuroDD9AQEseAIAgDoglSEpXI1PXUzESBLU25ITJLtTCJA7 H2Y1KTISuThHGQzUDA3IhUL4pyRe+n4JAdIsJzY9fd/3ezdF6rGlRw== =XQMT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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privacy and rights (short reply)
by an15489＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> >> Numbered bank accounts and even lines of credit >> exist and will continue to prosper. > >One can hope so, but when the Swiss numbered bank account, the >canonical example, vanishes, I begin to have doubts. > >[Let's hope it doesn't get this far. Besides, there's always >Liechtenstein :)] > I hate to be the bringer of bad news, but to the best of my knowledge Switzerland no longer allows numbered bank accounts. Also, from my studies of international banking, bank secrecy and tax havens, I have never seen any reference to numbered bank accounts in any country other than Switzerland, including Liechtenstein (although Liechtenstein does have better secrecy safeguards than Switzerland. Today, Cayman Islands has more international money in its bank than any other country in the world due to their bank secrecy and favorable tax status (ref: Forbes Magazine). Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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