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Re: Stego-empty hard drives... (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:05:30 -0400 > From: Sunder <sunder(a)brainlink.com> > Subject: Re: Stego-empty hard drives... > What's this bullshit, eh? Just overwrite the BIOS roms in your machine to > return all zeros for the sectors you don't want to show them. Have some > special passphrase you have to type in while in the BIOS setup program to > deactivate this. Most newer notebooks have flash upgradeable ROMs anyway. What's this bullshit, eh? I wonder how you propose to answer the question: "Sir, exactly why are you typing that sentence into the computer at this time?" Now we have not only given them probably cause but clear evidence for a prior intent to commit a crime. Even if your hard drive is clean they're going to bust your ass. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: CHALLENGE? Toto/signature attack w. unpublished public key
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This value is wrong: it has 3 bytes of 0's inserted and is therefore missing the last three bytes of the signature. s = 0x08F4D5CBC10063725B206F787EB7370BBD0C5B4854CE79A9007D1801AEAEE6E6 D2C68D7EDF877FECE1FA539D08BEC54BD152BA05113951E8A84CDECAD2CB8E7A C28BE916570BA7BB9C00C64DF57113C4AE81613BD351541523CD3A028FBF220E F7469BD4175302DCB5B6E886974877F28A2D301433AFFFE26081008BFF687B37 Here is the correct value, from the signed message. 08F4D5CBC10063725B206F787EB7370BBD0C5B4854CE79A97D1801AEAEE6E6D2 C68D7EDF877FECE1FA539D08BEC54BD152BA05113951E8A84CDECAD2CB8E7AC2 8BE916570BA7BB9CC64DF57113C4AE81613BD351541523CD3A028FBF220EF746 9BD4175302DCB5B6E886974877F28A2D301433AFFFE260818BFF687B37DE8167

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CHALLENGE response (fwd)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The whole point of the CHALLENGE response went straight over his head, didn't it? It's almost as though there are two mailing lists here: the one for dolts, where Jim Choate gets into his idiotic little arguments with his fellow fools, yammering back and forth on totally off-topic matters, and the one for people interested in cryptography and its implications. We have here the first known case where a key was constructed ex post facto to validate a signed message, in response to Adam Back's challenge. No longer can you assume that just because you posted a signed message on a certain date, and you hold the public key which signed that message, that you can later prove authorship. It challenges some of the implicit assumptions which have been made in using public key cryptography. And all Jim Choate can do is take issue with a snippet of Toto's ravings which were included purely to illustrate the signature validity. He is completely unaware of what is really happening. Jim Choate writes: > Forwarded message: > > > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 08:01:07 +0200 > > From: Anonymous <nobody(a)replay.com> > > Subject: CHALLENGE response > > > "Contrary to one famous philosopher, > > you're saying the medium is not the > > message," Judge Thomas Nelson said, > > alluding to the media theorist Marshall > > McLuhan. > > http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/120997encrypt-bernstein.html > > > > Bullshit! > > The bits and bytes of email encryption are a clear message > > that I wish to exercise my right to speak freely, without those > > who wish to do me harm invading my privacy. > > If you're going to take that tack then you need to invoke freedom of the > press and not freedom of speech.

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Re: atheism (was: RE: Democracy... (fwd)) (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:27:57 -0500 > From: Petro <petro(a)playboy.com> > Subject: Re: atheism (was: RE: Democracy... (fwd)) (fwd) > Basically he is saying you can't deny the existence of something if > you don't know what it is. That's the rub, in transcendental religions with this as a proviso it becomes impossible to even talk about God, he transcends the natural world and escapes any hope of comprehension other than a simple label. In effect transcendental religions have defined themselves into a circle. They define God as something undefinable and then claim that anyone who counters their beliefs is at fault because they can't define God. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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17 Dec '03

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Re[2]: ArcotSign (was Re: Does security depend on hardware?)
by jnbailly＠west.raytheon.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Woah.... I hate to interject noise, but I have to comment. Maybe Bruce's reply WAS a bit curt and not terribly helpful. But it's better to just let it drop, and not resort to criticizing typos. I'm a member of this list in the hopes that I'll learn something. While it's true that I didn't learn anything from Bruce's reply, I don't think anyone gains anything from grammar/spelling corrections! *smile* Jacob ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: ArcotSign (was Re: Does security depend on hardware?) Author: proff(a)iq.org at mime Date: 9/22/98 10:40 AM > >the legitimate user has, excepting the 'remembered secret'. Or is > >there anything wrong with my logic? > > Yes. There is something wrong with you logic. > > Bruce > ********************************************************************** > Bruce Schneier, President, Counterpane Systems Phone: 612-823-1098 There's something wrong with you grammer. Cheers, Julian. RFC-822-headers: Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by mail.hac.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #26580) id <0EZP00401AHMT4(a)mail.hac.com> for "jacob n bailly"@mime.mail.hac.com; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PROCESS-DAEMON by mail.hac.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #26580) id <0EZP00401AHJSC(a)mail.hac.com> for "jacob n bailly"@mime.mail.hac.com; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:36:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fw-tu05.hac.com by mail.hac.com (PMDF V5.1-12 #26580) with ESMTP id <0EZP0028FAHI2D(a)mail.hac.com> for "jacob n bailly"@mime.mail.hac.com; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from toad.com ([140.174.2.1]) by fw-tu05.hac.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id MAA16615 for <jnbailly(a)west.raytheon.com>; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:38:01 -0700 (MST) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id KAA03863 for coderpunks-outgoing; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:40:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iq.org (proff(a)frame-gw.iq.org [203.4.184.233]) by toad.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA03857 for <coderpunks(a)toad.com>; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 10:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17488 invoked by uid 110); Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:40:08 +0000 Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 03:40:08 +1000 (EST) From: proff(a)iq.org Subject: Re: ArcotSign (was Re: Does security depend on hardware?) In-reply-to: <4.0.2.19980922114142.00956610(a)mail.visi.com> Sender: owner-coderpunks(a)toad.com Message-id: <19980922174008.17487.qmail(a)iq.org> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Precedence: bulk

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CHALLENGE response (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Subject: CHALLENGE response (fwd) > The whole point of the CHALLENGE response went straight over his head, > didn't it? It didn't go over my head at all. What amazes me is that it took you this long to figure out that one could munge signatures. > We have here the first known case where a key was constructed ex post > facto to validate a signed message, in response to Adam Back's challenge. Um, I don't believe that is true. It may be the first time members of this list have managed it. > No longer can you assume that just because you posted a signed message > on a certain date, and you hold the public key which signed that message, > that you can later prove authorship. It challenges some of the implicit > assumptions which have been made in using public key cryptography. No, it challenges basic assumptions regarding the importance of identity. In no way does it effect the basic math of crypto, public or otherwise. And people wonder why I don't sign my messages... > And all Jim Choate can do is take issue with a snippet of Toto's ravings > which were included purely to illustrate the signature validity. He is > completely unaware of what is really happening. I've taken no issue with Toto or his ravings. Have a nice day. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Why lying under oath is bad and worth impeachment [fwd]
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Here's a timely jewel. James Traficant's (D-Ohio) one-minute speech > before House on September 15th. > > James Traficant (D-Ohio) Home Page > http://www.house.gov/traficant/ > > E-mail: telljim(a)mail.house.gov (Rep. Jim Traficant D-OH) > > > AN AMERICA WITH TWO LEGAL STANDARDS IS AN AMERICA WITH NO LEGAL > STANDARDS > September 15, 1998 > > Mr. Speaker, if Joe Q. Citizen lied in a civil trial, he would be sued > for every penny. If Joe Q. Citizen lied to a Grand Jury, he would go to > jail. Lying is perjury. Perjury is a crime. > > Now, having said that, what is going on here, Mr. Speaker? Does America > now have two legal standards, one for you, one for me; one for he, one > for she; one for generals, one for soldiers; one for Presidents, one for > residents? > > Let us tell it like it is. Joe Q. Citizen cannot apologize, Joe Q. > Citizen is not censured, Joe Q. Citizen is prosecuted. And let me warn > Congress: An America with two legal standards is an America with no > legal standards. > > Mr. Speaker, I yield back the balance of the lives of all of the > soldiers that gave their lives fighting to preserve our freedom. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Senate panel considers Internet regulations (fwd)
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 08:21:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: politech(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: Senate panel considers Internet regulations http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/0,2326,201980923-14632,00.html TIME Digital's Netly News September 23, 1998 Senate Panel Mulls Web Regulations By Declan McCullagh Thought a GOP-led Congress was going to hold off on regulating the Internet? Guess again. A Senate panel is meeting this morning to hear arguments about a proposal to regulate exactly what information commercial web sites may collect from visitors. [...remainder snipped...]

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George Santyana & crypto
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am reading http://www.jya.com/sig-attack.htm --- Then, in late 1942, the Royal Navy switched codes to the one-time pad system. The Nazi tap was lost forever because the pad system is unbreakable in both theory as well as practice. U-boats could no longer ambush helpless ships like wolves on sheep. Convoy after convoy arrived safe and intact, protected in the armor of an unbreakable code system. The U-boats had to change tactics. http://www.us.net/softwar/ Germany used the enigma algorithm and machine. Japan used the purple algorithm. And look what happened to them. About crypto algorithms. "Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it." -- George Santyana, 1905 Title: Black and White Test of Cryptographic Algorithms Jump to Forum Click Image to Jump to Next Article Go to Text Only Print Version Black and White Test of Cryptographic Algorithms by William H. Payne This article requires special formatting. Please Click Here to Read Send This Article to a Friend: Your Name: Email Address of your Friend: Your Email address: Back to Home Page Quick Menu Visit the Button Shop Interactive Forum Black and White Test of Cryptographic Algorithms E-mail the Editor

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