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Re: US supporting dissidents? (was Re: Rogue Governments Issuing Policy Tokens)
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:52 PM 11/20/96 -0500, Jeremiah A Blatz wrote: >Trademarks are not copyrights. There is no fair use for trademarks. In >addition, civil suits are not criminal trials. The USG can't throw >your ass in jail for making "big brother inside" stickers, but Intel >can sue your ass off. >In a related note, you may be safe from lible suits... Make you wonder how Mad magazine has gotten away with it all these years... (Maybe we could get Mad to print them! Would make an interesting cover...) ObSpyVSSpy: Mad TV (on Fox) has been running animated Spy V.S. Spy cartoons. (Usually one or two per episode.) Probibly best thing about the show. (I mentioned this because one "prominent Cypherpunk" at Orycon had not known about them.) --- | "Remember: You can't have BSDM without BSD." - alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ | alano(a)teleport.com |

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RE: FUCK YOU punk
by nobody＠zifi.genetics.utah.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

_______________________________________________________________________________ From: aga on Wed, Nov 20, 1996 15:24 Subject: FUCK YOU punk/was:Taking out the garbage To: freedom-knights(a)jetcafe.org Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com >If you try to make or enforce any rules and YOU DIE cocksucker! You might want to watch yourself. It would be hard to *not* see this as a direct threat... >Your presents shall be totally eliminated form this InterNet! ^^^^^^^ Yeah, Lucky! You better watch out, or there'll be NO CHRISTMAS!! :-) >Your connection will be TERMINATED at once! Suddenly, agatha is everyone's sysadmin... >fuck you punk, and fuck all of your "rules" Whether stated or not, there _are_ certain guidelines (or rules) we all should follow, just so we aren't *ASSHOLES*... >-aga

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Re: Database law... silver lining??
by Richard L. Field 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I am not suggesting patent-like protection. Rather, I'd argue that there is very little "independent creation" with respect to my personal database. Provided it is considered my database to begin with, information that I give on a warranty card, when I ask for credit, etc. remains mine under the proposed U.S. law. Just because a third party tries to assemble it from those sources doesn't mean it suddenly becomes free data, from a non-database source. By that line of reasoning, any protected database would lose all protection upon its publication by a licensee, so long as you copied it from the licensee and not the originator. This is not how I read the proposed law, and it is not how big database publishers would want it read. - Richard Field (Nothing in this line of argument is meant to imply that I am in favor of the proposal.) At 11:47 PM 11/21/96 -0800, Greg Broiles wrote: [my proposal snipped] > >Cute, but any such proposal is almost guaranteed to allow for independent >creation from a non-database source - e.g., warranty cards, info extracted >from you when you ask for credit, public records, etc. For example, one >comment to Article 3 of the proposed WIPO treaty on sui generis protection >of databases provides: > >"3.02 The protection provided does not preclude any person from >independently collecting, assembling or compiling works, data or materials >from any source other than a protected database." > >(see <http://www.loc.gov/copyright/wipo6.html> for more.) > >It's very unlikely that Congress (or the PTO) intends to do anything >that'll screw up what's already working well for big database publishers. >Your theory is similar to a patent flavor for databases, while the >proposals floated out so far are much more like copyright - e.g., >independent creation is OK, but copying is not, even with wide public >distribution, and long protection times. With patent, independent creation >is not OK, copying (the information, not the device) is encouraged/allowed, >and protection time is short.

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New Paper: Covert Channels in the TCP/IP Protocol Suite
by Craig H. Rowland 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

All, I have released a new paper entitled: Covert Channels in the TCP/IP Protocol Suite This paper demonstrates several methods of encoding secret data into the headers of the TCP/IP protocol. Main topics of interest include: - Encoding data into IP headers. - Encoding data into TCP headers. Specific areas of focus allow encoding of data into the IP identification fields and TCP sequence number fields for clandestine transmission of data to a remote host. Packets of data appear normal to network sniffers and packet filters, yet can contain hidden messages in either plaintext or ciphertext. Other methods revealed include a new technique where forged packets can be "bounced" off any Internet connected site to establish a communication path that appears to originate from the "bounced" host. Additionally, several methods are discussed regarding bypassing of packet filters with encoded data for communication with hosts inside a protected network. This paper contains actual demonstrations as well as source code for Linux 2.x systems to allow encoded transmissions between sites to be tested. If you are interested in reading this paper, please visit my website: http://www.psionic.com/papers.html This site has VERY limited bandwidth so please be patient if it is slow. Thank you for your time.. -- Craig

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Re: Anderson & Kuhn's "Improved DFA" paper
by Matthew J. Miszewski 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> It's also an opportunity for some well-timed press releases. > Clipper 1's reputation was severely damaged by Matt's attack. > Anybody know if HP's giving out samples, and if there are real or test > GAK plugins for them? I agree. There are many people on the list with contacts with the media (or ARE the media :). There was a time that I would suggest posting all of our media lists to cypherpunks but, unfortunately, I fear that would no longer be productive. So... I suggest everyone fire up their fax modems and send out to all of the contacts we each have personally. Even local papers can be important in this action. Make sure your local ISPs understand the issues (and maybe even release it in a newsletter or daily email. > > HP URL http://www.dmo.hp.com/gsy/security/icf/main.html > > The paper was posted to coderpunks, and it's on > ftp://ftp.cl.cam.ac.uk/users/rja14/dfa > Here's the intro: > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Improved Differential Fault Analysis > > Ross J Anderson, Markus G Kuhn > (Intro snipped) Matt

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Re: Why I Don't Read SF Much Anymore (fwd)
by gimonca＠skypoint.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 00:14:49 -0800 > From: "Timothy C. May" <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Re: Why I Don't Read SF Much Anymore > [among other things] > > - Vernor Vinge, "True Names," obviously, "The Peace War," "Marooned in Real > Time," "A Fire Upon the Deep," and his collections of short stories (incl. > "The Ungoverned"). > > (Caveat: I've been invited to do a chapter for Vinge's forthcoming "True > Names" book, containing essays about computers and society, and, of course, > his novella of the same name. So I may be biased.) > Is this the St. Martin's Press "True Names" edition that was listed in amazon.com? At one time, it was going to be released August or Sept. of this year. I have to mention that the owner of Dreamhaven Books here in Minneapolis complained to me last year that he has a "truckload" of remaindered copies of "Peace War". They still have a bunch--every time I've been in there, there's a hardbound "Peace War" on display with a price tag of $1.00. Buying a copy of "True Names" right now is about as easy as buying an original Dead Sea Scroll--but if anybody wants a cheap copy of "Peace War", look up Dreamhaven in Minneapolis. --C.G.

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This AGA d0od
by Jonathan Miller 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Enough is enough already.... I've spoken with your dad and it's no more Innerspace Invaders for you. He said you're UNgrounded for two months, and while you're not outside looking for a real life and real friends, you must sit in front of the TV and watch Sesame Street and Mr. Rogers reruns back-to-back on PBS. After learning to feel good about yourself with Fred's help, it's off to a session with Dr. Ruth to help you realize you can make yourself feel good as well. It is O.K. to touch yourself as long as you're in private. We promise not to make fun of you. ----------------- >From: aga[SMTP:aga@dhp.com] >Sent: Thursday, November 21, 1996 2:24 AM >To: Rabid Wombat >Cc: FREEDOM-KNIGHTS(a)JETCAFE.ORG; Black Unicorn; cypherpunks(a)toad.com >Subject: Re: Does John Gilmore EAT Asshole? > >On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, Rabid Wombat wrote: >> Grubby! Back under your rock! AGA responded: >FUCK YOU COCKSUCKER -- as long as you keep writing to be, >I will continue to rip a new asshole in the Faggot John Gilmore >who promotes PUNKs like you. > >A 'punk' is a faggot pussy who is really NOT a man! > >> On Wed, 20 Nov 1996, aga wrote: >> >> > Somebody censored the header in this article, >> > and we put it back. You know, that is the worst >> > kind of censorship, when somebody attempts to avoid the issue. >> > >The faggot Gilmore does take it up the ass and also eat assholes, so >he should be added to the net.scum list at once. > >-a > >

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Re: Why I Don't Read SF Much Anymore
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:14 AM 11/21/96 -0800, Timothy C. May wrote: > >On the issue of why many of us don't read as much SF as we once did... > >Speaking for myself, [Reasons snipped] I have found my reasons for not reading as much Science Fiction are: 1) Time. 2) The huge pile of technical manuals/books that I need to read. (I have been measuring them, not in number of books, but in linear feet.) 3) Many of the bookstores locally (especially the chains) have a HUGE percentage of their books being "franchise SF". It is hard to find something good when you have to wade through the Star Trek, Star Wars, Doom, Myst, Story set in the world of <famous name> by written by <unknown>, and assorted Pern-ography. (The last chain bookstore I went to had *NOTHING* that I had not read or was willing to read.) I guess that is what i get for going to malls... ObCrypto: It is ironic that the 2nd edition of The Codebreakers is out. I had just done a book search on it and was going to get a local bookstore to order me a copy. (The prices on the used market ran anywhere from $20 to $80! That is copied that actually sold, not just asking price.) I guess I will have to do a book search on _The Puzzle Palace_ and maybe it will get released. (In kind of a strange quantum bookbuying action at a distance sort of thing...) --- | "Remember: You can't have BSDM without BSD." - alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ | alano(a)teleport.com |

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for people from .CZ domain
by Kamil Golombek 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi to all! i'd like to meet or know people, who read this list and are from Czech republic. Some kind of cooperation is possible. Conversation even in Czech (but i prefer English) . Could you send me an e-mail? Maybe we live several km far from each other and we aren't able to comunicate. i also apologize to all, who are from different state and must read this letter. Sorry! Thanks ZERO

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Word Lists
by kb4vwa＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm looking for a Large Word List, for a pkcrack program. Anyone have any idea where to find one, or how to convert a dictionary formated file to a wordlist file? Ed

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