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Re: More to be paranoid about...
by Lynne L. Harrison 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:14 PM 8/3/96 -0700, Alan Olsen wrote: >Take a look at: > > http://www.spiritone.com/cgi-bin/plates > >Feed it an Oregon licence plate number and it will feed you back all sorts >of info about the person/victim. Not surprising at all. Unbeknownst to most of the general populace, DMV records (for the most part) are public records and are subject to Freedom of Information requests. AAMOF, I have an account with NYS/DMV which I use to pull my clients' records when they are charged with DWI and/or other traffic offenses. I simply dial into DMV's [outdated] computer and pull the record. It also came in handy on a personal level when I did not get my registration card after buying my car and discovered that the dealer had not registered my car. ************************************************************ Lynne L. Harrison, Esq. | "The key to life: Poughkeepsie, New York | - Get up; lharrison(a)mhv.net | - Survive; http://www.dueprocess.com | - Go to bed." ************************************************************ DISCLAIMER: I am not your attorney; you are not my client. Accordingly, the above is *NOT* legal advice.

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Destroying client/server model, anonymous broadcasting.
by Laszlo Vecsey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Getting back to the Dining Crypto Problem, is it possible to complete a round by passing information around the circle of participants (each individual communicates and maintains a connection with the person on the left and right) rather than sending the round results to everyone via a central server that everyone is connected to? In effect no one would be a server, or everyone would be a server depending on the way you look at it. A circular linked list would be maintained and kept in sync by every client so that error recovery could come into play if someone mysteriously disconnects. Could it work? How would the protocol differ. Also I need info on the Disco problem, detecting if someone is tampering. Thanks. - Lester

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Re: Freeh slimes again: Digital Telephony costs $2 billion now ...
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:52 AM 8/2/96 -0700, Brock N. Meeks wrote: > >On Thu, 1 Aug 1996, Ernest Hua wrote: > >> Louis Freeh is now asking the Congress for $2 billion to fund >> Digital Telephony. Yes, that is FOUR TIMES what he said it >> would cost the taxpayers to give up their own privacy. Score >> one for the cynics who said $500 million was not enough. > >I broke the story about how much Digital Telephony would *really* cost in >CyberWire Dispatch more than two years ago. The price tag in my piece: >"... at least $2 billion..." In that Dispatch I wrote that the Clinton >White House had made the decision to support the bill based on a flawed >cost/benefit analysis study the FBI had done. Which should remind us... While the costs are going up, so far undetermined is the "benefits" that are supposed to accrue from this bugging ability. How many crimes, approximately, are going to be solved or prevented by the expenditure of this $2 billion dollars? One hundred? A thousand? Even if it were 10,000, that would still be $200,000 per crime. Is there no cheaper way to prevent those crimes? And, moreover, do we REALLY want to prevent those "crimes"? If they are attacks on an illegitimate government that is violating our rights, as far as I can see we want to see those "crimes" succeed, not fail. Let's put their feet to the fire: They should be required to show a reasonable estimate of the benefits as well as an apparently phony initial estimate of the costs. If they respond that they can't estimate the benefits, then why do they want us to incur the costs. However, the real answer is even simpler. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Integrating PGP 3.0 Library with INN
by ichudov＠galaxy.galstar.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, Has anyone thought of integrating PGP 3.0 library with INN? I was thinking along the lines of having PGPMoose support built right into INN: if an arriving article is posted to a moderated newsgroup for which a PGP key is available in the INN's keyring, INN verifies existence and correctness of a PGP signature. An article that fails this verification will be dropped. Same thing can be used for authenticating newgroup and rmgroup messages, in the spirit of true freedom on usenet -- anyone would be sent _their own_ newgroups and rmgroups but no one will be impersonated. For those not familar with PGP Moose, it is a program that was written by Greg Rose. It is used for signing approvals on usenet articles. It takes message body, several important header fields, signs them with PGP and places the signatures in the headers, in order not to clobber the text. If moderators choose short enough keys (512 bits for example), this verification will not take any significant amount of CPU time. igor

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The Myth of Flat Rates and Infinite Bandwidth
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 4:40 PM 8/5/96, Martin Minow wrote: >Arun Mehta <amehta(a)giasdl01.vsnl.net.in> writes: > >> >>True, though even better would be simply to charge you a flat >>rate. If billing is that expensive, why bother? >> > >Tragedy of the Commons. > >Flat rate works only if no single user can use more than >a tiny fraction of the total bandwidth. > This was also the fallacy of the "dark fiber" vision of George Gilder, who, as an economist of sorts, should've known better. --Tim may Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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appropriate algorithm for application
by Cerridwyn Llewyellyn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I need an algorithm/protocol that is capable of encrypting numerous files with separate keys, but there also needs to be a master key that will be able to decrypt all of them. Is there such a system that is relatively secure? I'd prefer the system to be as secure as possible, but in this application, security is secondary to functionality. Thanks... //cerridwyn//

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secret message
by JOHN E. HOLT 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Date: 01-Aug-96 14:50 EDT From: JOHN E. HOLT [76473,1732] Subj: puzzle ^%}{{ ZZ VVPAGMIGJEKMCCHIAKKPEHJDDDLOABGAMMJOCDFNOLNOKKKNIADPBGPPOEPIDCEMPGWW VVFCMOPKLKPJOHCNCJBDGOOJKFANCJJBDBMDIFIEKEDPLKDDGMPLHMIIPIJFMKOLENWW VVCAKJGJCKPAEOOMLJPNFJEKEINIHFKHNOLPCAHLEKHHLMHJFCOEKAFAGPHJBCPBHBWW VVOKLAENICAFDHEOEODMHMFGIONMAACAOHEOHDAJDNENGAHABNHGOCCPJNFDMAMKADWW VVMGDHKGPKBEIDBNLOCMLFMEIOKBFBFKJIMIIIFKJDFENCBPAPFBAOFMHEDODBFFPDWW VVOMFFJBNGEJPLGHJLFOBLFOGCBKAACEICLBIKHGILKCLMHPFIAHPDEOOODPPMLGDNWW VVGLDNEBDINMILDJDOJOJNKCLIBBKBCBEJPBJCFHGKMFLLEPGLGOOIIGAKJEGNPFHDWW VVIJBMFLALHPEHHGEGPCLGILBDBMEGMOGOIFBPPONGEDJPNFNMPCJFJPAEMIDOEMBLWW ZZ ZZ Distribution: To: ME > [76473,1732]

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Re: (fwd) ANNOUNCE: Free Little PGP Credit Card App
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:54 PM 8/22/96 -0400, Damaged Justice wrote: >>From: "David j. Sopuch" <djs(a)iwinpak.com> >Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.www.misc >Subject: ANNOUNCE: Free Little PGP Credit Card App >Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 12:00:24 -0400 >Organization: Datamax Research corp. >Lines: 10 >Message-ID: <321C8418.2647(a)iwinpak.com> > >v2.08 of the iWinpak Internet Payment System is now available in >both freeware and shareware versions at http://www.iwinpak.com An interesting little piece of CGI code, but the demo leaves a bit to be desired. The demo is for bank checks. The order form has you sending your bank information (including bank number and check info) in the clear. So the hooks into your credit card are not sent in the clear, but the ones to your bank are... Double plus ungood. It is a start... How good of one, I am not certain though... --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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[off-topic] Re: Verdict in "MTV" Case
by Daemon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:15 AM 8/23/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: As the youngest Cypherpunk in the world (or at least i am aware of) I think a little reply is in order from my self. > "Like, like the kids are, like, >goofin' off. Besides, MTV doesn't like play enough old stuff, like Zeppelin >and Floyd." Thats what those old records are for. (no offense) If they are sueing MTV why not other TV stations.... If I was going to sue someone for not doing my homework i would sue Jarkko Oikarinen, the creator of IRC. I just think that this is really pathetic.... but then again I am famous for my flame replys in the past. Why not make the school pay MTV for keeping kids away from there station while they are doing homework (hehehe) FYI i thought this reply out. Blake Wehlage ========================================== Blake Wehlage <jwilk(a)iglou.com> ±» RëVðLû¡ØÑ Bø+ ©ÖmP@ñ¥ «± Goto: http://members.iglou.com/jwilk

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Re: Anonymous Remailers
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:52 PM 8/23/96, Chris J Samuelson wrote: >When you mail an item through more than one anonymous remailer, how does >that make it anymore anonymous, or doesn't it? When only a single remailer is used, the remailer can see the mapping between the sender and the receiver. When two remailers are used, the first remailer can see the sender, but not the final recipient. The second remailer can see the final recipient, but not the original sender. Of course, the two remailers can get together and "collude," thus deducing the mapping between sender and recipient. With N remailers, the likelihood of collusion amongst the N remailers is less likely, possibly extremely unlikely. This is the core theory of mixes, or remailers. (And of course one can include one's self as a remailer, to further increase one's confidence that collusion has not occurred.) --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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