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IE4 + FOOF = BWAHAHAHAH!
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Resent-Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:06:00 -0500 From: glen(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org To: 0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org Cc: bostic(a)bsdi.com Subject: New IE4 security hole discovered. Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 12:05:56 -0500 Sender: glen(a)shell.ncm.com Resent-From: 0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org X-Mailing-List: <0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org> archive/latest/2447 X-Loop: 0xdeadbeef(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org Precedence: list Resent-Sender: 0xdeadbeef-request(a)substance.abuse.blackdown.org what were the opcodes to hang a pentium again? -glen Forwarded-by: "Per Hammer" <phammer(a)raleigh.ibm.com> http://www.wired.com/news/news/technology/story/8429.html A new security vulnerability uncovered in Microsoft Internet Explorer 4.0 will allegedly allow a malicious individual to write a line of HTML on a Web page that will execute native code on a user's machine. Such code could run, create, or delete a file - or do anything a user can do from sitting in front of his machine. Uhm ... "Whops" ? Not that we needed an excuse not to run IE4 anyway, but hopefully this will further deter the "large corporations", who according to Microsoft wants to "run IE4 on all platforms" ... --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Matters of Law
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now that one level of the court system has ruled that the First Amendment does not protect Paladin Press against a lawsuit over its sale of the book "Hit Man," it may be timely to mention some of the issues. It is often claimed (here, too) that "anyone may sue." This is true. Just pay a filing fee, etc., and anyone can sue. Alice can sue Bob because he is reading "War and Peace." I can sue Suzie because I didn't like the color of the dress she wore. And so on, so the theory goes. However, the court system need not let the suit proceed. Many (most?) filed lawsuits are dismissed on "matters of law." Thus, Alice's lawsuit against Bob over Bob's choice of reading materials would be thrown out. (And the courts have even taken steps against those who have filed many frivolous lawsuits with the apparent intent of harassment. ) It is in this sense that today's court decision allowing the suit against Paladin to proceed is so pernicious. In a society where free speech and free dissemination of ideas is protected by the First Amendment, a lawsuit to stop others from reading or writing certain thoughts should be thrown out immediately. On a "matter of law." I'm not a lawyer, but my layman's understanding of "matter of law" is that an act must have some element of illegality under the criminal code, or under contract law, before a lawsuit can proceed. Thus, I cannot sue a restaurant because it chooses not to serve my favorite food, nor can Alice sue Bob over his choice of reading materials. Nor should anyone be allowed to sue Paladin Press when no evidence of illegality has been shown (Paladin was not implicated as a co-conspirator in the murder, and the book "Hit Man" is not illegal to sell). I expect the Paladin Press case will go to the Supreme Court now. I hope it does, at least. And it'll be interesting to see if the ACLU supports a politically incorrect case like this. --Tim May The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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(no subject)
by burn81＠hotmail.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Senate Hearings on PCCIP
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to Peter Neumann and David Wagner, we offer a transcript of Senate hearings on PCCIP, including statements on encryption: http://jya.com/pccip-hear.htm (71K)

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Re: Matters of Law
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: >I expect the Paladin Press case will go to the Supreme Court now. I hope it >does, at least. And it'll be interesting to see if the ACLU supports a >politically incorrect case like this. A reminder that the consitutional issues of "Hit Man" and similar cases are reviewed in the Department of Justice's April 1997 report to Congress, "The Availability of Bombmaking Information, and the Extent to Which Its Dissemination May Be Subject to Regulation Consistent with the First Amendment to the United States Consitution": http://jya.com/abi.htm (196K)

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Re: Matters of Law
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>It is often claimed (here, too) that "anyone may sue." This is true. Just >pay a filing fee, etc., and anyone can sue. Alice can sue Bob because he is >reading "War and Peace." I can sue Suzie because I didn't like the color of >the dress she wore. And so on, so the theory goes. YMMV, depending on locality. Some places require a lawyer to certify that the lawsuit has (in hir opinion) at least a reasonable chance of succeeding. That may not apply in small claims court, tho. >(And the courts have even taken steps against those who have filed many >frivolous lawsuits with the apparent intent of harassment. ) They can go after the aforementioned lawyers for this, too. One of Scientology's lawyers, Helena ("The Kobra") Kobrin, has been sanctioned for filing frivolous lawsuits on behalf of that cult.

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1st Ammendment Tossed in Paladin Case
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- Ruling that the right to a free press doesn't cover a how-to-kill book, a federal appeals panel said the families of a hired killer's victims may sue the publisher of a book that he consulted. A three-judge panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals denied First Amendment protection to ``Hit Man: A Technical Manual for Independent Contractors,'' saying publisher Paladin Press knew it would be used by murderers. ``The Supreme Court has never protected as abstract advocacy speech so explicit in its palpable entreaties to violent crime,'' the panel said in its ruling Monday. The book was sold to James Edward Perry, who was convicted of killing Mildred Horn; her disabled 8-year-old son, Trevor; and the son's nurse, Janice Saunders, in Silver Spring, Md., in 1993. The women were shot between the eyes and the boy's respirator was unplugged. Perry is on death row for the murders, and Lawrence T. Horn, Mrs. Horn's former husband, was sentenced to life in prison for hiring Perry. Horn's motive was to collect $1.7 million from a malpractice settlement that his son Trevor won from a hospital after the accident that left him a quadriplegic. Paladin has never challenged Perry's claim that he followed some of the 130-page paperback's advice. ``This decision says that if you're in the business of helping instruct murderers on how to slaughter innocent women and children, you aren't going to find any shelter in the First Amendment,'' said Howard Siegel, an attorney for the families. Paladin Press, based in Boulder, Colo., plans to ask the full 4th Circuit to review the panel's decision and will seek a Supreme Court review if necessary, said Lee Levine, the publisher's attorney. The appeals court ''did not sufficiently take into account the First Amendment implications of holding the publisher of a book legally responsible for actions of someone reading the book,'' Levine said. The lawsuit was supported by victim rights groups, while The Washington Post Co., The New York Times Co. and other media organizations filed briefs supporting Paladin's position. In 1996, U.S. District Judge Alexander Williams ruled that the victims' families could not hold Paladin liable because of the First Amendment's guarantee of free speech. The appeals panel sent the case back to Williams for trial. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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No Subject
by Mix 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Young wrote: WSJ reports today on the increasing conservatism of the military and disputes about the pretense of civilian control, with some officers calling for responsible action to compensate for societal breakdown. It cites several examples of military members preparing for war at home, as mentioned here earlier by Attila and others, with two Marine writers claiming that the next Somolia will be here. This, coupled with reports on LEA inheritance of military equipment and lavish civilian funding to fight terrorism, portends more than Jim Bell (Tim May?) -type sniper takeouts. Free fire zones may be in the offing, or surgical wasting of underground bunkers and germmakers (troublemakers). Wrathful Mars sees no innocents, so preaches the terrorist freedom warfighters pursuing a dream of winner take all, so sorry constitutional fundies, we're the warmonger biz. ----end quote Evidently they assume a one sided strategy. Wrathful Mars has little memory of recent history.

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Tygar cracks SET (was Re: Freeware SET?)
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 2:11 pm -0500 on 11/9/97, Donald E. Eastlake 3rd wrote: > The SET reference implementation was written only with a concern for protocol > correctness and essentially no concern for operational usability. It is not > clear to me that a product could be based on it without a lot of additonal > work. But I suppose it might be useful for hacking... At Doug Tygar's talk at Harvard last week, he claimed to have found a way to crack it. I, um, forgot to press him on this. Has anyone heard about this, or what it might be? Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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No Subject
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

nospam-seesignature(a)ceddec.com writes: > I believe in separation of church and state. The state must get out of > things like education and welfare (charity) and other things that are not > their responsibility. > > The mistake was when the courts ruled that prayer could not occur in > public (government) schools. The very next day, every government school > should have been closed down (this would also have shown the court that it > should be careful with its rulings). And society would not have > experienced as much decay as it has. Amen! I remember when as a young teacher I used to lead my third grade class in our daily devotional to Ba'al and Ishtar. It got everyone off to a good start and kept us grounded in proper moral values throughout the school day. (Of course every year there was some small group of malcontent parents pissing and moaning about this and wanting me to lead the class in Christian prayers! Can you imagine?) Society just hasn't been the same since. Everything's going to hell in a hand basket. -- Ba'al-Boy

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